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Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Shawn Horcoff, Eric Belanger, Faceoffs & Zonestarts

How are the Oilers' lines faring in each type of start? Is Tom Renney giving the right guys o-zone starts? Should he go to an extreme Vigneaultesque strategy?

To shed some light on these issues, I've used play-by-play data to separate ice time into three categories:

Offensive - the most recent faceoff was in the attacking zone and no player from that faceoff has left the ice.

Defensive - the most recent faceoff was in the Oilers' defensive zone, all players from it remain on the ice.

Neutral - the most recent faceoff was in the neutral zone and/or a change has taken place.

The Oilers have changed their lines around a lot more than the Canucks, for example, so it's not as simple to break down. I've decided to look at Shawn Horcoff, Eric Belanger and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins individually and group all the time together where none of those were on the ice. Much of that was with Gagner or Lander in the middle. Hockey is messy with more fluid positions than other sports, but this should give us a good idea who is doing what in each zone. On top of the usual teammate and opponent effects, we are dealing with small sample sizes. Try to take the exact numbers with a grain of salt and focus on the patterns. Here is a table with the Corsi rate in each type of ice time:

Center Defensive Neutral Offensive
Horcoff -40.6 -5.3 34.1
Belanger -29.9 -7.3 47.2
Nugent-Hopkins -67.2 -2.9 20.4
None of Above -48.4 -4.9 30.2
All Oilers -43.6 -5.4 32.3

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Nugent-Hopkins jumps off the page. There's no nice way to put it; the can't-legally-drink-on-most-road-trips line has been getting thrashed after faceoffs in their own zone. By Corsi rate they have been quite bad in offensive-zone starts as well. In the neutral situations, that is after neutral-zone faceoffs or an on-the-fly change, RNH has been pretty close to average. This pattern points to faceoffs being a big liability and that is backed up by faceoff win% - Nugent-Hopkins is the worst Oiler center, winning only 37.7% of his faceoffs. Flip that for Belanger, one of the best in the league on the dot. Going by Corsi rate, he has been the best Oiler center for starts at both ends of the ice, but not as good in neutral situations.

To get an idea who should get o-zone starts, I like to look at the difference between Corsi rates following o-zone starts and those in the defensive zone. That will tell you which players are most affected by zone starts. There are matchup issues and so forth, but those for whom o-zone starts are the most important, whether that's because they are very good in the offensive zone or very bad in the defensive zone, usually should get the easier ice time. Here are those numbers:

Center Ozone - Dzone
Nugent-Hopkins 87.6
None of Above 78.6
Belanger 77.1
All Oilers 75.9
Horcoff 74.7

These data fit the usual narratives - the young guns and fourth liners should get the protected minutes. Renney has been doing this. Personally, I wouldn't recommend giving Nugent-Hopkins the Sedin treatment because it seems bad for development to give young players so little defensive responsibility, but if all you cared about was winning right now then there is pretty strong evidence even with these small sample sizes that he rarely should start in his own end.

If you enjoyed this article, you might like my previous work looking at zone starts and working on a way to take them into account. Follow us on twitter @drivingplay.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 10, 2012 7:31 AM MST reply actions  

My free agent acquisitions are more Holland than Tambellini.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 10, 2012 7:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Great analysis Jared

I’m working on something similar for FTF, because I’d rather not re-code something you’ve already done, do you have a database with this information or can you share the code? Also, a methods question, Do you use NHL TOI reports to keep track of shift length, or do you use strictly PBP data?

Again, great work. I defintely think breaking play by zone is very valuable and informative, not just for player analysis, but also important in terms of player deployment.

by SnarkSD on Feb 10, 2012 10:00 AM MST reply actions  

Great stuff.

There has been a lot made in Edmonton in the last couple weeks about playing the “kids” more taking away ice time from both Belanger and Horcoff. I understand the sentiment but the numbers would seem to suggest that the results would not be good.

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by ryanbatty on Feb 10, 2012 10:01 AM MST reply actions  

Are we really concerned about the results at this point?

Throw them out there and let’s see if they can swim or not.
Or rather, see how badly they sink for 30 games

by DarrenV on Feb 10, 2012 10:55 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m not concerned about results at all. Just think it’s interesting that a lot of fans and the media think more of the kids will equate to wins and that just doesn’t seem to be the case.

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by ryanbatty on Feb 10, 2012 11:39 AM MST up reply actions  

The Edmonton Oilers. We Sell Hope, and not much else.

by DarrenV on Feb 10, 2012 11:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Nice breakdown. QoC further stresses the differences. Horcoff is struggling offensively but is taking on significantly tougher matchups with 2nd toughest QoC for forwards.

We all know RNH gets the cosiest slots, but Belanger is 10th for QoC which sort of diminishes his numbers as well, but at least he is doing well possession-wise. Not to say he isn’t good in the dot, but it seems playing 10th QoC would also boost one’s numbers there as well.

by till_horcoff_is_coach on Feb 10, 2012 10:40 AM MST reply actions  

I had a similar thought and wrote the 430 article with that in mind.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 10, 2012 7:53 PM MST up reply actions  

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