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Replace Tambellini? There Are Plenty Of Options For The Oilers

The Edmonton sports media, as is their custom, leaked word of a possible extension for Steve Tambellini to continue as General Manager of the Edmonton Oilers. The local boys originally leaked a four-year deal, while Bob McKenzie countered, saying that a two-year deal was on the table. The media take was that Tambellini should be allowed to finish what he started, bring closure and success to his meticulously planned rebuild.

Certain portions of the fanbase concurred with the media and believe that Tambellini is the man to finish the rebuild, while other portions recoiled in rage at the specter of an extension for the man who caused the rebuild in the first place. Still others agreed with an extension, but for a completely different reason: that finding a better GM would be difficult or that a new GM might be worse.

Triumph, our newest contributor, took up their cause in his "Defense of Steve Tambellini" article:

Owners do not seem particularly adept at choosing general managers and/or team presidents. It's difficult to understand why this is, but the best general managers typically stay employed for a long time, and the rest of the league tends to shuffle people around hoping to find a great GM

The argument seems to be "There's a possibility his replacement might be worse, so the Oilers should accept current performance, no matter what."

The notion that viable candidates are hard to come by is wrong-headed and should be rejected. After the jump, I'll explain why.

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The outstanding Jonathan Willis has already begun an analysis of candidates for the job. He's looked at doing nothing, going back to the well, Patrick Roy, and San Jose Assistant GM Joe Will. Unlike Jonathan, I won't dive as deep into the analysis aspect of each candidate, rather, I'm out to prove that a large pool of viable candidates exists and should be thoroughly explored before settling for status quo out of fear.

I'll begin by ruling out a pool of candidates, men who've been discussed in some popular forum, either by the mainstream media or on some of the more popular destinations of the 'sphere. The following group should not be considered viable candidates to replace Steve Tambellini:

Any of the boys on the bus - Jonathan profiled Kevin Lowe, Lowetide has consistently predicted Mark Messier would be the next man to take the job, and ask any number of fans about Wayne Gretzky and watch them drool. The boys on the bus have run the team for two-thirds of the Oilers' NHL existence and the first third was great. The second third has been brutal. It's time to cut the strings from the boys on the bus and stop looking at past glories with the Oilers as a baseline for a job qualification. If the Canadiens limit their possibilities because of language, the Oilers limit their possibilities because of a letterman's jacket. There is a single exception to this.

Rick Olczyk - Olczyk, currently the Assistant General Manager of the Oilers, is supposed to be the team's CBA and salary cap guru. In reality, he's anything but an expert in his area of expertise. Olczyk's public failures include a complete misunderstanding of the CBA's waiver rules in regards to Gilbert Brule and a total lack of knowledge on the Finnish Transfer Agreement. Thankfully for the Oilers (I've yet to receive a 'Thank you' from Olczyk, by the way) alert bloggers were on the case. Add in the horrendous 35+ deal for Nikolai Khabibulin, and Olczyk should be released from his current duties, not considered for a promotion.

Stu MacGregor - MacGregor, currently Head Scout for the Oilers, is worshiped like a demigod by the mainstream media and bloggers alike. And while he's hit a couple of home runs in batting practice, we're still 3-5 years away from knowing if MacGregor is good at his current job. If making first overall picks was the only qualification for GM, the Oilers can just keep Steve Tambellini.

Ritch Winter - The agent extraordinaire and Founder of The Sports Corporation has publicly and privately stumped for the GM's job, which should disqualify him for the job. There's something unseemly about using agent tactics to get a job on the other side of the conference table. The real reason for avoiding Winter, however, is his take on stats and analysis in the NHL. His Twitter account has linked to a number of both low-level and wrong-headed articles and his 140 character arguments in defense of those articles has been abysmal.

With the non-viable candidates out of the way, we can build the beginnings of our target candidate list. Daryl Katz should, at the very least, have a discussion with the following candidates:

Joe Will - Will, currently the Assistant General Manager of the Sharks, is the strongest and most likely candidate to become the first "Moneyball" General Manager in hockey (though Doug Wilson has admitted to using advanced metrics to make decisions). Will has flown under the radar in San Jose and isn't a well-known by fans, but is very well-known around the NHL. Jonathan Willis profiled Will here, noting:

The San Jose Sharks have consistently been one of the best teams in the National Hockey League. Only once since the NHL lockout have they failed to advance to at least the second round of the playoffs. Their goal differential is a combined plus-275 since the lockout – and that’s not an accident, as the linked article highlights goal differential as one of their primary goals. Will has been involved in all of it...

Doug Yingst - Another unknown to most fans, Yingst is the President and GM of the AHL's Hershey Bears. Yingst has won three Calder Cups as GM of the Bears and has turned the organization into the best in the AHL. He serves on the AHL Board of Governors. He's a longshot for the Edmonton job - he's been in Hershey in various roles for three decades.

Craig MacTavish - The lone exception to my "no boys on the bus" rule, I called out MacTavish as a future GM after he was released from his duties by the Oilers:

That lengthy resume includes ECAC Player of the Year, All-American honors, playoff MVP, a Division II title, four Stanley Cups, three years as an NHL assistant coach, and eight years as an NHL head coach. Add to that an MBA and MacTavish's resume has all of the qualifications of a General Manager in the NHL.

MacTavish knows player development and understands the challenges a coach can face with an unbalanced or undermanned roster.

Hockeymetricians - One of the stats gurus will eventually find their way to the front office of an NHL front office, just as they did in baseball. We know that a few teams have hired full-time advanced statisticians and even more teams regularly engage the statisticians in both long-term and short-term consulting and advisory gigs. Many of the statisticians have non-hockey management experience. Though it took 35 years for baseball to catch up, a smart owner might want to get the early adopted advantage and put someone who crosses value with a deep understanding of advanced metrics, someone like Gabriel Desjardins.

Dave Nonis - Nonis, currently Vice-President of Operations with the Maple Leafs and General Manager of the Toronto Marlies, has served as Brian Burke's right hand man for three-quarters of his professional career. He was promoted to General Manager in Vancouver after Brian Burke left and was replaced by Mike Gillis.

Laurence Gilman - Gilman, currently Assistant General Manager of the Canucks, has a long history of NHL experience with the Coyotes and Canucks and has served as Mike Gillis' CBA and negotiation expert during the Canucks' rise to power. Gilman is the man behind the outstanding cap situation and excellent contract position in Vancouver.

Ex-Players - There is a large group of ex-players with degrees and a wide range of skills, work histories and NHL experience that make a strong list of candidates for the job. That group is led by Paul Fenton, Tom Fitzgerald, Don Sweeney, and Pat Verbeek and all are candidates for a discussion about the role, at the very least.

This list contains the individuals that I would target for the job and is by no means a comprehensive list of available candidates who could do a better job as General Manager of the Edmonton Oilers. There are plenty of other capable hands - even without delving into the especially able managers without NHL experience - to look into. This canard, "Where would we find a new or better GM?" is nothing more than a paean for Steve Tambellini and Kevin Lowe.

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Paul Fenton, please and thank you.

by Geeezeus on Feb 7, 2012 4:32 PM MST reply actions  

He drafts defensemen in the first round.

by godot10 on Feb 7, 2012 5:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, Paul Fenton’s near the top of my profile list too. He’s definitely a guy worth looking at.

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by Jonathan Willis on Feb 7, 2012 7:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Strike your tongue!!!

I was finishing this article thinking “whew, they didn’t mention Fenton.”

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by Dirk Hoag on Feb 8, 2012 7:16 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I really can’t see Messier or Gretzky being good choices. MacT would probably do a great job. Nonis would be good as well… although I’m not a big fan of Burke’s work.

by Czechboy on Feb 7, 2012 4:39 PM MST reply actions  

MacT chose Moreau over Smyth as his captain.

by godot10 on Feb 7, 2012 5:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Smyth was gone before Smith was, and therefore wasn’t a candidate for captain.

by Adam Dyck on Feb 7, 2012 10:28 PM MST up reply actions  

If they intended Smyth to succeed Smith, they would have re-signed Smyth.

They made the decision to sign Moreau and Staios. MacT decided who he wanted to go forward with as team leaders. The guys they signed.

by godot10 on Feb 8, 2012 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Playing Gagner and Cogilano directly in the NHL, especially Gagner, is on MacTavish. Both players could have benefited from some time in the minors to hone thier craft. Gagner will be a free agent at 25 and that’s on MacT.

He also hired ex-boys on the bus as his assistant coaches.

Can’t see any reason to beleive he would be any better than any other boys on the bus…

by gcw_rocks on Feb 8, 2012 3:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Playing Gagner and Cogilano directly in the NHL, especially Gagner, is on MacTavish.

MacTavish took crazy amounts of grief for playing anyone and everyone in front of those kids on the top two lines. He didn’t want them up top, what makes you believe he wanted them on the roster?

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by Derek Zona on Feb 8, 2012 4:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Because he gave them plenty of minutes. Both guys were getting top nine ice time pretty much all season. It seems likely that he thought having them in the lineup gave him the best chance to win.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 8, 2012 4:48 PM MST up reply actions  

once they’re there, what’s he going to do?

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by Derek Zona on Feb 8, 2012 5:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Play them on the fourth line? Give them time in the press-box? He found a role for them that he thought gave the team the best chance to win. I find it highly unlikely that he was stumping for them to be sent away.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 8, 2012 11:06 PM MST up reply actions  

Play them on the fourth line?

He sheltered the crap out of them. By qualcomp, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what they were. Or close, at least.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 8, 2012 11:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed. If he didn’t want them, he could have kept them on the bench and in the pressbox until Lowe got the message. He had 40 games to do it before he burned a year off free agency. He didn’t.

His assistant coaches have included Craig Simpson, Charlie Huddy and Buchberger. Assistants are usually selected by the Head Coach. That’s a boys on the bus bias if I ever saw one.

by gcw_rocks on Feb 15, 2012 12:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Gagner was ineligible to play in the AHL.

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by Doogie2K on Feb 8, 2012 5:05 PM MST up reply actions  

I really can’t see Messier or Gretzky being good choices.

I said the same. Are you skimming?

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by Derek Zona on Feb 7, 2012 6:23 PM MST up reply actions  

My point wasn’t that there aren’t qualified people, it’s more that people around the league are seemingly incapable of identifying who will be good and who won’t be. Was Jay Feaster really that good in Tampa? He won a Cup but barely graduated any prospects, and the team quickly sank to the bottom of the standings as a result. But he’s a general manager again.

I have to imagine that Messier will take the Ranger job once Glen Sather retires.

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by Triumph44 on Feb 7, 2012 4:42 PM MST reply actions  

I have to imagine that Messier will take the Ranger job once Glen Sather retires.

That should be hilarious

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by Derek Zona on Feb 7, 2012 6:23 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s what we thought about Tambellini.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 8, 2012 3:09 PM MST up reply actions  

What, no Pierre McGuire?

Jarmo Kekalainen’s name came up at Eyes on the Prize earlier in the year. Being European will probably work against him for as a candidate for a GM job in the league but he has NHL front office experience.

Of the guys potentially available in the summer Joe Will looks like the #1 job candidate out there though. It will be interesting to see where he ends up, if leaves San Jose.

by Roke on Feb 7, 2012 4:49 PM MST reply actions  

Jarmo Kekalainen will never be a GM in Canada. Xenophobia won’t allow it.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 7, 2012 6:22 PM MST up reply actions  

I’ve got real doubts that Kekalinen will ever get that kind of shot, but he’s the guy who’s gone the farthest with a European background.

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by Jonathan Willis on Feb 7, 2012 7:40 PM MST up reply actions  

He might get a shot in the US, but by the time Canada would be ready for a Euro coach or GM, Jarmo will be 90

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by Derek Zona on Feb 7, 2012 8:00 PM MST up reply actions  

20 years ago I’d have agreed with you, but Don Cherry’s fellow travelers are becoming fewer and fewer. Heck, nobody’s batting an eyelash at the fact that the Oilers have a Swiss assistant coach, and Kekäläinen himself was director of player personnel for Ottawa, so Europeans are getting jobs with Canadian NHL teams. And not before time.

Plus, I want Kekäläinen to be the Oilers’ next GM. :)

by Chunklets on Feb 7, 2012 8:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I hope it comes to pass, but if you think non-French speakers take grief in Montreal…

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by Derek Zona on Feb 7, 2012 8:19 PM MST up reply actions  

There’d be some noise, for sure, but unlike in the past the people making it would be fairly generally derided as the crankpots they are. Furthermore, if Kekäläinen (or whichever European is involved) did even a halfway decent job, that noise would die away fairly promptly.

Now, it would be a different matter if a European, or any non-Canadian, were hired to coach one of the national teams… That guy would be on the shortest of short leashes.

by Chunklets on Feb 7, 2012 8:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Hlinka took way more crap in Pittsburgh than he should have. I just can’t see it ever working in a Canadian market.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 7, 2012 8:40 PM MST up reply actions  

It would require, in no particular order:

-that the European in question speak passable English, and probably French if he’s working for the Canadiens (this would be the lesson from the Hlinka tenure). It wouldn’t hurt if the guy were a bit media savvy as well.
-some success for the team involved, or at least not hideous failure.

But that’s really about all it would require. Again, there would be certain people who were dead-set against the very idea of a foreign coach, particularly a European, but those people would be neither numerous nor taken seriously. :)

by Chunklets on Feb 7, 2012 9:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Ralph Krueger coached the Swiss national team, but he’s not Swiss.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 7, 2012 8:46 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn’t know that – where’s he from?

by Chunklets on Feb 7, 2012 8:48 PM MST up reply actions  

He was born in Manitoba but played internationally for Germany, which is also where he began coaching.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 7, 2012 8:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Ah, so he’s a coach errant! :)

by Chunklets on Feb 7, 2012 8:55 PM MST up reply actions  

FYI on Jarmo Kekalainen

I know he signed a five-year deal when he returned to Finland in 2010. Not sure what it would take to break that, but when he left he definitely hoped to return to the NHL with a GM gig.

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by Dominik on Feb 8, 2012 8:12 PM MST up reply actions  

A GM has to have a strong foundation in contract law, negotiations, deal-making, accounting, and hr management. Don’t underestimate the importance of culture regarding how these things get done in NA vs. Europe. I worked in Europe for several years and brother let me tell you, your funny accent and getting used to new country codes are just the tip of an enormous iceberg.

I wouldn’t hire a European at the NHL level until they demonstrated the ability to demonstrate their proficiency in a North American business climate.

by John Chambers on Feb 8, 2012 2:40 PM MST up reply actions  

I’ll take Messier from the list above. None of those names up above do much of anything for me. At least with Messier, you know the will to win will be high, or he’ll drive himself crazy trying. He will also know that you can’t have a bunch of pansies running around the ice expecting to win.

Has anyone ever asked Bob McKenzie if he has any interest in a GM job. We know he has connections and isn’t afraid to form his own opinion or take opinion from others. Delegation and surrounding himself with people in the know seems to be a strong suit of his.

by Dan Lizee on Feb 7, 2012 5:06 PM MST reply actions  

Bob McKenzie gets his information from sources. When he becomes GM, he loses his sources of information, who will stop talking to him.

His list of top prospects is not his list. It is a poll of scouts, not like Button’s who is giving his own informed opinion.

by godot10 on Feb 7, 2012 6:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeti, did you get yourself another account?

by eddy the lip on Feb 7, 2012 6:20 PM MST up reply actions  

What has McKenzie done to show he can delegate?

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by Derek Zona on Feb 7, 2012 6:21 PM MST up reply actions  

You can say the same thing about Roy, although unlike Messier Roy has some experience running a team. I don’t like either for the top job – their resumes are a little thin.

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by Jonathan Willis on Feb 7, 2012 7:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Roy has come up a number of times in the “next Canadiens coach” discussion, and I’m 50-50 on how happy I’d be about that. If the Habs have “francophone” as a major requirement after Cunneyworth gets canned, he’s probably one of the better candidates unless Vigneault or someone loses their job. I don’t think I’d consider him a GM candidate (either in Edmonton or Montreal) just yet, though. You’re right, he’s got a thin resume, and CHL experience is a long way from NHL experience. And I don’t think a guy with his temper should be in the GM’s chair.

by despisethesun on Feb 8, 2012 11:24 AM MST up reply actions  

You give a guy like Messier a fake job like Lowe gave Quinn the second year of his contract. Some kind of goodwill ambassador or something.

by Romulus' Apotheosis on Feb 7, 2012 8:50 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Lowetide has consistently predicted Mark Messier would be the next man to take the job

Actually LT consistently predicts Kevin Lowe is the next GM.

by Woodguy on Feb 7, 2012 6:31 PM MST reply actions  

Vic Ferrari and Tyler Dellow for Oilers GM!

by The Neutral on Feb 7, 2012 7:40 PM MST reply actions  

They can be behind the operation, but someone with a softer hand should be the public face :)

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by Derek Zona on Feb 7, 2012 9:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Sounds like you are volunteering for the job. I would love to see your pre-Minnesota game interviews

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by VanillaAcid on Feb 7, 2012 10:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Nah, I want the CBJ job.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 7, 2012 10:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Wait, you think Derek had a softer hand?

by DarrenV on Feb 7, 2012 11:44 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Wow
Olczyk, currently the Assistant General Manager of the Oilers, is supposed to be the team’s CBA and salary cap guru

What blows my mind is that the Oilers actually had a salary cap guru. Given that the Oilers will have at least 4 first rounders who who will surely demand big raises over the next couple of years and how they are accumulating more high draft picks that will eventually need raises, I thought they were just winging it.

Having a six-year plan with the guys all being the same age and needing 5M+ contracts isn’t such a great idea now is it? And they still haven’t addressed the D or goalie position!

Well, at last Paajarvi is slumping…

by OilPen on Feb 7, 2012 7:40 PM MST reply actions  

Don't know how to edit,

but i also meant to add that the team has expiring ELCs yet no signs of playoff contention.

But hey, BAM! Stanley cup, right?

by OilPen on Feb 7, 2012 7:58 PM MST up reply actions  

As great as a couple of CBA gurus have been (Pellegirini and Gilman), Olczyk has been the worst in the league.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 7, 2012 8:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Please, Please, Please

1. Joe Will
2. Laurence Gilman

Maybe MacT..

Just don’t let it be Lowe..

by Trites on Feb 7, 2012 8:28 PM MST reply actions  

BOTB: no thank you. I’ve had my fair share and I’m done.
Olczyk: hey, he’s an Olczyk…no f’ing way!
Stu: wait and see
Other asst GM’s: that’s where Katz needs to look.
MacT: I think u forgot ‘manslaughter’ from his list of ‘accomplishments’
Stats guys: great right hand people to have on board. Start with “we’re trying to score goals”
Ex Players: only if they are currently successful seasoned asst GM’s
Minor leagues: there may be a gem there, if not a GM, then at least a coach

by SoCalOil on Feb 7, 2012 8:51 PM MST reply actions  

MacT: I think u forgot ‘manslaughter’ from his list of ‘accomplishments’

Because a youthful mistake made almost 30 years ago and not repeated since is completely relevant to one’s resume as a hockey GM.

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by Doogie2K on Feb 8, 2012 12:30 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh geez, I thought that post on “don’t fire Tambo cause the next guy could be worse” was some sort of terrible FanPost that got promoted to the main feed for the sake of fairness/objectivity, or maybe straight sarcasm. Again, I have to reiterate my all encompassing response to that piece: “lol?”

Nice rebuttal, Derek.

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by IAmJoe on Feb 7, 2012 8:55 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

It’s certainly not my best argument, but your response was pretty awful then and is just as poor now.

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by Triumph44 on Feb 7, 2012 10:32 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Explains the 11 followers?

by DarrenV on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I think you’re misrepresenting LT here, from my perspective he’s been pretty clear about predicting Kevin Lowe’s return to the day-to-day when Tambo is gone.

by Adam Dyck on Feb 7, 2012 10:29 PM MST reply actions  

And, as soon as I post I notice WG beat me to it. Nevermind me, I’ll be over here licking batteries.

by Adam Dyck on Feb 7, 2012 10:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe recently, but he’s had a number of comments/posts suggesting Messier comin’, notably a post with very few words and a picture of Messier looking like a member of the RAF. It was easier to find this stuff on his old site where the tags were far more numerous.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 7, 2012 10:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Joe Will eh?

Already an assistant coach with one of the premier clubs for the past 6 years in the NHL, and he is an advanced stats guy?

Old boys club? Check.
Analytical skills? Check.

I’m in.

Really wish Jonathan would cease writing for Cult of Hockey.

by DarrenV on Feb 7, 2012 11:48 PM MST reply actions  

Gabriel Desjardins

Imagine the fans’ reactions when they realize he doesn’t watch the games…

by Simon Lamarche on Feb 8, 2012 5:51 AM MST via iPhone app reply actions  

On TV when they go to the shots of the GM after a goal they’ll show him in his office looking at spreadsheets.

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by JaredL on Feb 8, 2012 7:07 AM MST up reply actions  

The spreadsheets will have diet data on them, creating an even angrier mob.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 8, 2012 7:25 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

MacT

My fandom wasn’t quite as intense in the final year of MacT as coach, but I always liked him and never fully understood why he was canned. Can anyone offer a quick synopsis of some of the more salient complaints against him or direct me to some somewhat-stimulating articles? Would be much appreciated. Otherwise I might start chanting to bring him back behind the bench.

by dessert1111 on Feb 8, 2012 10:38 AM MST reply actions  

I think it was a combination of “lost the room” along with general fan complaints of comparable quality to “Penner is lazy” and “Gilbert is soft”. I don’t think he was a Jack Adams candidate or anything but a coach can only do so much with the players he’s given and he certainly wasn’t given that much.

by despisethesun on Feb 8, 2012 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Even MacT admitted he’d lost the plot and needed to step away.

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by Doogie2K on Feb 8, 2012 12:32 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Still, the Oilers were in the playoff race until pretty late in the season, something that certainly wasn’t repeated after he was let go. Since the Cup run, there have been as many seasons with MacT as without and, while there’s been a fair amount of player turnover since then as well, the team had been more successful with him than without. That’s a pretty weak defense of MacT, I admit, but the point is the problems ran a lot deeper than him and I’d bet his firing was more “sacrificial lamb” than results-based.

by despisethesun on Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Probably a bit of both. It was probably time for him to go, but it’s not like he’d gotten any help from upstairs.

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by Doogie2K on Feb 8, 2012 5:07 PM MST up reply actions  

thanks guys, let my “bring back MacT” chants begin =)

by dessert1111 on Feb 10, 2012 7:53 AM MST up reply actions  

I can’t see Lowe ever hiring a knowledgable and potentially strong-willed counterpart to question his own contributions. With that in mind the question is to burn a lifeline and switch to MacT or keep the lifeline and take a little heat for extension.

by till_horcoff_is_coach on Feb 8, 2012 12:41 PM MST reply actions  

Good luck with that.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 8, 2012 3:10 PM MST up reply actions  

We can dream can’t we Derek? After all his father was an Edmonton Flyer at one time….

by Otiepitotie on Feb 9, 2012 3:52 PM MST up reply actions  

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Clear Victory Standings

Western Conference

  1. Detroit Red Wings (27-11, .711)
  2. St. Louis Blues (24-10, .706)
  3. Vancouver Canucks (22-10, .688)
  4. Los Angeles Kings (18-11, .621)
  5. San Jose Sharks (18-13, .581)
  6. Phoenix Coyotes (20-15, .571)
  7. Nashville Predators (18-14, .563)
  8. Chicago Blackhawks (21-19, .525)
  9. Colorado Avalanche (16-19, .457)
  10. Dallas Stars (18-22, .450)
  11. Anaheim Ducks (14-19, .424)
  12. Edmonton Oilers (18-25, .419)
  13. Calgary Flames (13-21, .382)
  14. Columbus Blue Jackets (14-31, .311)
  15. Minnesota Wild (8-22,.267)

Eastern Conference

  1. Pittsburgh Penguins (31-13, .711)
  2. Boston Bruins (27-11, .711)
  3. New York Rangers (25-16, .610)
  4. Philadelphia Flyers (21-17, .553)
  5. New Jersey Devils (18-16, .529)
  6. Ottawa Senators (19-17, .528)
  7. Washington Capitals (20-19, .513)
  8. Montreal Canadiens (16-19, .457)
  9. Winnipeg Jets (15-19, .441)
  10. Buffalo Sabres (14-18, .438)
  11. Carolina Hurricanes (13-17, .433)
  12. Florida Panthers (14-19, .424)
  13. Toronto Maple Leafs (17-24, .415)
  14. New York Islanders (8-23, .258)
  15. Tampa Bay Lightning (10-30, .250)

Division Standings

  1. Central (79-58, .577)
  2. Atlantic (68-50, .576)
  3. Pacific (62-54, .534)
  4. Northeast (69-65, .515)
  5. Northwest (49-69, .415)
  6. Southeast (51-81, .386)


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