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Oilers v. Maple Leafs - 1 Corinthians 9:24-27

Don't you realize that even though every team wants to win the Stanley Cup, only one of them actually wins? So if you want it, the least you can do is put in the work! The athletes are disciplined in their training - you couldn't get them to lose on purpose no matter how much you tried! So why don't those who play from the pressbox and are charged with the big picture also act in this way? At the very least, discipline yourselves like the athletes so that you aren't made to look foolish making trades and signing players in free agency. You have spent a lifetime working up to your current position, so don't throw it away now!

Edmonton Oilers (21-26-5) @ Toronto Maple Leafs (27-19-6)

Air Canada Centre, 5:00 p.m. MST
Television: Sportsnet West

More analysis after the jump...

Star-divide

Home Team Scouting Report:

The Maple Leafs are, in many ways, not so different this season compared to last. Their penalty killing is still awful, their possession game is still poor, and their goaltending is still questionable (mostly below average with the exception of James Reimer who has one of the oddest EV and PK save percentage combinations I've ever seen at .940 and .792 respectively). So what's keeping them in the thick of the playoff race? Mostly some hot shooting. The Leafs have the third best shooting percentage five-on-five (9.3%), and the fourth best shooting percentage five-on-four (14.8%). If the playoffs started today, they'd be riding those percentages to the eighth seed in the Eastern Conference. That they have another thirty games to go would be a lot more concerning if there were more strong contenders. As it stands, the Leafs need to beat out just one of the Senators, Panthers, or Capitals, and even though the Leafs are likely fourth of four on that list in terms of team quality, they've probably got a better than 50% shot at making it in.

Expected Lineups:

Edmonton Oilers (21-26-5):

Hall - Gagner - Eberle
Horcoff - Nugent-Hopkins - Hemsky
Smyth - Belanger - Jones
Petrell - Lander - Eager

Smid - Petry
Whitney - Potter
Barker - Gilbert

Dubnyk

Toronto Maple Leafs (27-19-6):

Lupul - Bozak - Kessel
MacArthur - Grabovski - Kulemin
Lombardi - Connolly - Crabb
Brown - Steckel - Armstrong

Gunnarson - Phaneuf
Liles - Franson
Gardiner - Schenn

Reimer

By the Numbers:

  • The Oilers have won their last three games, and have earned a point in five straight. That's the longest streak of either kind since the Oilers won six in a row from October 22nd to November 3rd, and earned a point in seven consecutive games from October 20th to November 3rd.
  • Devan Dubnyk is scheduled to make his seventh consecutive start tonight, which is easily the longest streak of his career. His previous high (accomplished several times) was four, which suggests that Tom Renney has had a significant change of mindset with the young goalie.
  • Jordan Eberle leads the league in points per sixty minutes of five-on-five ice time at 3.60. That's way ahead of Brad Marchand, who sits second with 3.12, and has been bested just four times in the last four years. The list of guys who have been better: Daniel Sedin (2009-10; 4.04), Sidney Crosby (2010-11; 3.98), Henrik Sedin (2009-10; 3.96), and Alex Ovechkin (2009-10; 3.70). In other words, it's pretty darn good!
  • Tom Gilbert makes his return to the lineup tonight after rehabbing the second significant injury of his career, and he's a welcome addition to the lineup. Much more welcome than you'd expect from a player with a -27 rating over his career. In fact, looking over the list of defensemen who were -25 or worse over their career, Gilbert might be in the top ten. The guys I'd have in front of him for sure are Jay Bouwmeester (-43), Sandis Ozolinsh (-44), Phil Housley (-53), Roman Hamrlik (-58), Randy Carlyle (-135), Rob Ramage (-171). After that, it's guys I've never seen play (the Leo Boivin family) or guys for whom it kind of depends on how much credit you get for being pretty good for a really long time (the Luke Richardson family).
  • I know that the focus for the last couple of games has been on Sam Gagner, but Taylor Hall also had a bit of a slow start to the year from which he's rebounded nicely. Hall had just two goals and ten points in his first fifteen games, but in the 27 games he's played since, Hall has 16 goals and 28 points, a very impressive turnaround.

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Guess I should’ve said twenty-ninth…

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 6, 2012 7:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Barker gets Gilbert? Watch Barker turn into Beauchemin with 77.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 4:55 PM MST reply actions  

Darren V is listening to Stauffer. Stauffer thinks the Oilers should run Hall-Hopkins-Eberle at Kessel’s line, rather than Horcoff-Smyth

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 4:59 PM MST reply actions  

GOALS, MUFFUCKAS, GOALS!

by Passive Voice on Feb 6, 2012 5:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Muffuckas is that stuff with with couscous and dates, right?

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:21 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Who in the world is the guy who did the intro on the Leafs feed? He was awful.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:05 PM MST reply actions  

Well that didn’t take very long, did it!

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 5:10 PM MST reply actions  

That line is silly right now.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Gagner gets the assist.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:11 PM MST up reply actions  

And the legend continues to grow!

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 5:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Cam Barker is so difficult to watch.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Stay lucky my friends.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:22 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Now I’m thirsty…

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by Joe Girth on Feb 6, 2012 5:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Eberle, Gagner and Hall are going to be ridiculously good.

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 5:17 PM MST up reply actions  

There’s Hemsky backchecking to take the puck the other way. But, you know, he doesn’t care.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:15 PM MST reply actions  

His body language as he was backchecking and taking the puck away was all wrong… :)

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 5:16 PM MST up reply actions  

The number of Edmonton fans who can read body language and see pouting and such should apply to be real-time law enforcement profilers.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:18 PM MST up reply actions  

It’s so good to have Gilbert out there again!

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 5:18 PM MST reply actions  

I thought the same thing when he held the puck in.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:19 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s the second time the Oilers have tried that little 4 foot head man chip pass at the red line. They’re going to get burned on that.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:20 PM MST reply actions  

Hmm, step out of the room for a moment and they go and get scored upon…

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 5:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Defense isn’t a priority in this game so far.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I know Gilbert is recovering and such, but maybe Potter can go to the third pairing instead of Gilbert?

Holy smokes that was awful.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:24 PM MST reply actions  

i like how physical petry has been so far

by dessert1111 on Feb 6, 2012 5:27 PM MST reply actions  

Eberle nearly got the lead right back there!

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 5:27 PM MST reply actions  

As did Gagner on the follow.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice rush by Hemsky. He’s moving really well lately.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:28 PM MST reply actions  

I look at Cam Barker and thing “I really miss Andy Sutton.”

Never thought missing Andy Sutton would ever enter my mind.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:28 PM MST reply actions  

Poor Theo Peckham isn’t even the guy you miss.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 5:36 PM MST up reply actions  

It’s not my fault.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Did you notice Gilbert keep in and throw the puck along the line, but Barker wasn’t fast enough to get there?

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, but I assumed that Barker was coming on after a change. Bad assumption?

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 6:02 PM MST up reply actions  

He was, but if you can replay that, go for it. It took him an eon to get there.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 6:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Petry and Smid have given up some tight chances.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:47 PM MST up reply actions  

I love Grabovski

You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.

by Tats16 on Feb 6, 2012 5:35 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

Dubnyk not on his game tonight?

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 5:38 PM MST reply actions  

I didn’t think any of the goals were his fault really

by ShahofToronto on Feb 6, 2012 5:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Ye gods, our defense is going to get shredded for a full 60 minutes.

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 5:41 PM MST reply actions  

luckily ours is playing just as bad.

leafs win 10-9

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by Tats16 on Feb 6, 2012 5:42 PM MST up reply actions  

80s night at the ACC!

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 5:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Gilbert should be back on the top pair.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:49 PM MST up reply actions  

I can’t believe he got stuck with Barker. Barker looked like a pylon on the leafs second goal.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 6:02 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

He is a pylon. He’s terrible. If he were under 25, I would have him ranked in the 40s

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 6:14 PM MST up reply actions  

At this point, I would take Peckham over Barker. Not kidding.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 6:45 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I’d take Plante, Teubert, Montgomery, Chorney and Bigos over Barker.

And Helmer.

And Tulupov.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 6:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Or maybe, ya know, just for shits…. say, Sutton?

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by Joe Girth on Feb 7, 2012 7:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Eberle!! And apparently some nice passing was involved!

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 5:42 PM MST reply actions  

My God, that was pretty.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 5:42 PM MST reply actions  

Hall’s the man. He makes shit happen (just ignore the d-zone giveaways).

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 5:57 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

You ain’t kidding. Petry’s best asset is that he’s a forward-like skater. He’s so fluid.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Gotta love the gouge in the ice from Hall hitting the breaks just inside the blue line.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, that’s a pretty awful call.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 5:44 PM MST reply actions  

why arent they going upstairs for that? wth

by dessert1111 on Feb 6, 2012 5:44 PM MST reply actions  

yeah it sucks

this happened to us not long ago. League really needs to review ALL plays that involve a goal

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by Tats16 on Feb 6, 2012 5:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Only if they can find a way to do it without slowing things down too much!

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

They don’t review interference calls.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 5:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Smyth robbed of a legit goal because the ref was reaching for the whistle.

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 5:45 PM MST reply actions  

Hemsky played very well in that period.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:48 PM MST reply actions  

Ok, that was a decent road period, especially for the Oilers.

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 5:49 PM MST reply actions  

Did Hall get the big hit on MacArthur or Gardiner?

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:51 PM MST reply actions  

Hopkins is doing the drop pass at the blue line again. It’s like Gagner’s rookie season all over again.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:52 PM MST reply actions  

Khabibulin’s not in, we can use his shock collar on Hopkins.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 5:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe Gagner can offer Hopkins some pointers from all the experience he has. Better hurry up and point it out though before he is shipped out of town.

… because the draft picks we will get for him don’t need advice or help from experienced players, they come per-packaged with Stanley Cups!

by Trites on Feb 6, 2012 7:07 PM MST up reply actions  

If a top 10 draft pick isn’t winning MVPs and Stanley Cups by their 4th season, they are part of the problem!

by Trites on Feb 6, 2012 7:08 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Gagner with some decent defensive play there

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 6:05 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Great defensive play RNH

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 6:06 PM MST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Followed by a bad one.

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 6:07 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Good, bad, we’re the ones with the goal.

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 6, 2012 6:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes, but we can try to take your joy away by pointing out how terrible we were on the play.

by eddy the lip on Feb 6, 2012 6:09 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

While I applaud the effort, no, no you can’t.

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 6, 2012 6:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I’ll be chatting with one of your Leaf brethren after the game – I need to get some practice in!

by eddy the lip on Feb 6, 2012 6:13 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

That was seriously shit d coverage. Did Barker really have to chase that leaf into the corner?

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 6:09 PM MST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

That was seriously shit d coverage. Did Barker really have to chase that leaf into the corner?

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 6:09 PM MST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Not good, Mr. Barker.

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 6:10 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

That was probably not the time to be gambling like that. Especially when there’s not frickin’ payout.

by eddy the lip on Feb 6, 2012 6:11 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Pretty comical, really.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 6:11 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s your Top 4 defenseman, edmonton media.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 6:12 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

why was he passing across the front of the net anyway?

by Romulus' Apotheosis on Feb 6, 2012 6:21 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

And the MSM is convinced that Barker will be an important part of the team moving forward?

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 6:11 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

^ Aaron Ward would have you believe he’s the Oiler’s cornerstone D-man going forward

by Trites on Feb 6, 2012 7:23 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, I remember that rant.

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 7:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Aaron Ward is a know nothing blow hard who may in fact be an actual puppet with Tambellini’s hand so far up his ass he’s sitting on Steve’s shoulder.

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by Joe Girth on Feb 7, 2012 8:08 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Is Krueger running the Oilers’ bench this evening?

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 6:12 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Your normal coach got hit by a puck in practice, didn’t he?

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 6, 2012 6:13 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s what I’d heard – it must have been more serious than it sounded.

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 6:14 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I think this wins comment of the night.

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 6:17 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

they said he was dizzy or something.

by Romulus' Apotheosis on Feb 6, 2012 6:19 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Wow – now even the coaches are getting concussed. :/

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 6:21 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Lucky it wasn’t a Weber shot or he’d be dead. Hi Edmonton, from Smashville. :-)

by Whamba on Feb 6, 2012 6:26 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Hey Whamba, nice timing! You should drop in more often. :)

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 6:27 PM MST up reply actions  

intend to. Hopefully tomorrow vs Vancouver we can return the favor you did for us with Detroit.

by Whamba on Feb 6, 2012 6:29 PM MST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

And hello to you! :)

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 6:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Felt like slumming it again tonight, eh?

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 6:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Not slumming

just hoping to lend a little of our “comeback luck” to the OILERS tonight.

by Whamba on Feb 6, 2012 6:47 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

We’re going to need it in spades.

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 6:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Smid was just expressing the team’s confusion re: Belanger taking a shot. something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXQ56Dp0iB0

by Romulus' Apotheosis on Feb 6, 2012 6:24 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Awesome, well done.

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by Joe Girth on Feb 7, 2012 8:10 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Mandatory helmets for practice!

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 7:41 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

And he’s the one who has Gilbert on with Barker.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 6:14 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

announcer on my feed: “how good is eberle.”

he is having a fantastic game. and, season.

by dessert1111 on Feb 6, 2012 6:15 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Oilers is a team rated for speed – A+ for forwards, C- .for defensemen.

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 6:24 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Terrible clearing attempt by Liles. He should play with Barker.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 6:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t know looks like Belanger interfered with Reimer

by Romulus' Apotheosis on Feb 6, 2012 6:28 PM MST up reply actions  

I mean, The Evil Russian!!

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 6:30 PM MST up reply actions  

A weird goal. Lost faceoff results in a shot from the point with traffic. Of course, a lot of that was classic Lupul not getting across to the boards and then not getting into the shooting lane.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 6:33 PM MST reply actions  

And then Lupul gets it back standing around in front. Well, we know where he’s good, and we know where’s he’s bad.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 6:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Not a lot of defense going on in this game.

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 6:34 PM MST reply actions  

Potter with his typical deer in headlights transition defense off of a horrid Whitney pinch.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 6:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah they’re a bad pairing right now, should be

Smid – Gilbert
Whitney – Petry
Sutton – Potter/Barker

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by Joe Girth on Feb 7, 2012 8:13 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Lupul closed his hand on the puck there

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 6:35 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

A little panic by Hall trying to clear that, looked like.

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 6:35 PM MST reply actions  

And somehow in all this Smid is +3 so far!

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 6:37 PM MST reply actions  

The Anti-Lebda

by ShahofToronto on Feb 6, 2012 6:38 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Anti- aside from the whole, y’know, winning bit.

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 6, 2012 6:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Has Barker hit absolute zero yet?

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 6:40 PM MST up reply actions  

He’s got a ways to go to get to Cory Cross levels of terrible. Give him time.

by Romulus' Apotheosis on Feb 6, 2012 6:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Just wait until he gets resigned.

by Oiltank on Feb 6, 2012 6:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Barker pyloned again.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 6:38 PM MST reply actions  

He was good like 4 years ago wasn’t he?

Wtf happened?

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by Ubiquitous on Feb 6, 2012 6:39 PM MST up reply actions  

No, he wasn’t. The Hawks protected the hell out of him and fed him power play time with a good power play. Then they stole Nick Leddy from the Wild for him.

He’s awful

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 6:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Ah, i was fooled by competent coaching.

OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.

by Ubiquitous on Feb 6, 2012 6:42 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

he managed to fool a lot of scouts too… how did he sneak into 3rd overall anyway?

by Romulus' Apotheosis on Feb 6, 2012 6:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I can see why you wouldn’t recognize it, but it doesn’t have broken ribs.

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 6, 2012 6:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey now, we did the same thing when we sent Chris Butler away. (He’s way better than Cam Barker though)

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by Ubiquitous on Feb 6, 2012 6:46 PM MST up reply actions  

My guess is once upon a time he was an extremely young defenseman with a decent first pass and some offensive ability and they figured they could iron out all the jaw-dropping errors in his game. the errors never got ironed out. Does anyone know how this guy was actually grabbed 3rd overall?

by dessert1111 on Feb 6, 2012 6:44 PM MST up reply actions  

3. Cam Barker — Medicine Hat LD
Big, highly mobile defender has easily the most offensive upside of any blue-liner in the draft. Hardly had to break a sweat this year while putting up outstanding numbers. Didn’t often perform at the top of his game – played nearly 30 minutes a night and seemed to pace himself. Is most effective when he forcefully takes the puck and heads up ice, leading the break and creating dangerous odd-man rushes. Has the ability to undress opponents as he goes end-to-end. Excellent vision and can make plays at top speed. A top-notch PP quarterback with a hard shot who makes good decisions in puck distribution. Still a work in progress in own zone, but improved steadily in both physical play and positioning as the year progressed. While he lacks explosive speed, he has good agility and his overall mobility is above average. Projection: #1 defenceman for a good team. Style compares to: Sergei Gonchar

by Passive Voice on Feb 6, 2012 6:47 PM MST up reply actions  

“good offensively, a show defensively” is basically the scouting report for 97% of junior defencemen

by Passive Voice on Feb 6, 2012 6:48 PM MST up reply actions  

heh
18. Mike Green — Saskatoon RD
The workhorse defender was the lone bright spot on a horrible Saskatoon squad. A mobile, two-way defender who logs 25-plus minutes every night and plays in all situations. Very good puck movement skills and decisions in puck distribution. Accurate tape-to-tape passes at top speed. Very effective at both leading and jumping up into the rush. Above average hockey sense and vision make him a strong PP quarterback. While not very big, he plays a physical game and is strong on his skates. Good at standing opponents up at the blue line and is smart about when to go for the big hit – picks his shots. Solid positionally in his own zone and effective down low. At times he isn’t as aggressive as he should be offensively, but it could be that he was just overworked this season. Projection: Character, two-way No. 2-3 defenceman. Style compares to: Craig Rivet

by Passive Voice on Feb 6, 2012 6:50 PM MST up reply actions  

20. Ladislav Smid — Liberec LD
Maintains great gap control and always squares up to the puckhandler. Has good poise and patience to move puck out of zone with crisp outlets and good decisions under checking pressure. Steadying influence along blue line. Can make long home run passes through neutral zone to beat trap and transition from defence to "O." Plays angles well and cuts off passing lanes. Great stamina – plays huge minutes. Best asset is intelligence and natural hockey sense. Sticks up for teammates. Plays solid, mistake-free game in own zone and is excellent positionally. Reads and anticipates developing plays well. Good laterally, but 1st step and straightaway speed are average. Is not good as either a PP quarterback or trigger-man— has weak shot and makes poor decisions in puck distribution. Projection: Steady, consistent #2-3 defenceman. Style compares to: Toni Lydman

by Passive Voice on Feb 6, 2012 6:51 PM MST up reply actions  

This one is on the money.

The Edmonton Oilers, keeping opposition fans happy for the last 6 years

by OilLeak on Feb 7, 2012 2:07 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Mike Green compares to Craig Rivet – Hahaha

by Oiltank on Feb 6, 2012 6:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Wait what:
Is most effective when he forcefully takes the puck and heads up ice, leading the break

..who was he playing against, the Alaska Glaciers?…

by Trites on Feb 6, 2012 7:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Rinse, repeat.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 6:40 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

And in case saying it once wasn’t enough, ye gods.

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 6:39 PM MST reply actions  

“There is, however, one defenseman who stands out as potentially a true stud a few years down the road, and once again (for the third year in a row) Red Line’s top defender is a big, raw-boned kid out of western Canada.

Rangy Cam Barker joins Braydon Coburn and Jay Bouwmeester as WHL prodigies who should become NHL stalwarts in the coming years. At 6-3 and 206 pounds, Barker skates well and has the offensive skills to run an NHL power play. The only downsides are that Barker tends to pace himself a bit and doesn’t always apply his ample physical tools in the defensive end."

Red Line Report, June 20, 2004

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/columnist/woodlief/2004-06-20-woodlief-draft-d_x.htm

by Oiltank on Feb 6, 2012 6:47 PM MST reply actions  

The folks who wrote these could make ME sound like a good draft choice! The one time I’ve tried to skate I cracked my head at center ice in Bridgestone Arena during a season ticket holders skate. :-)

by Whamba on Feb 6, 2012 6:57 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

So is Sutton hurt or is he a healthy scratch?

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 6:48 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

hs. moved out for Gilbert

by Romulus' Apotheosis on Feb 6, 2012 6:49 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s a real piss off. There is no way that Sutton should be scratched for Barker or Sutton. Just awful.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 6:53 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I meant Barker or Potter.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 6:54 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed, either Barker or Potter should be in the press box behind Sutton.

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 6:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Renney filled out the lineup card while concussed.

OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.

by Ubiquitous on Feb 6, 2012 6:55 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Doesn’t do you any favours if you’re trying to convince other teams of his value, either.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 7:03 PM MST up reply actions  

23 scouts in the rink. put on a show Hemsky, find yourself a home that wants you.

by Romulus' Apotheosis on Feb 6, 2012 6:57 PM MST reply actions  

If they weren’t scouting Grabovski, they are now.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 7:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Desert Dogs 1, Detroit 0 early in the second.

by Whamba on Feb 6, 2012 7:02 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Smid goes for the walk with Nugent-Hopkins behind him. This was not the best idea. Also, it seemed like Hopkins and Petry got their wires crossed in their own zone.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:00 PM MST reply actions  

Damn, great save by Reimer.

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 7:01 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Truth.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 7:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Holy hell what a shift by Gagner’s line.

And they’re all under 23

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:04 PM MST reply actions  

Yup, they got a bit unlucky there on a couple of shifts.

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 7:08 PM MST up reply actions  

What happened to the first period plan of “feed Eberle, he’s got the hot stick tonight”?

by Whamba on Feb 6, 2012 7:08 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

They’ve gone with Plan B: “Turn the puck over in our own end a lot” :P

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 7:10 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Maybe the puck hit more than one coach in the head. :-)

by Whamba on Feb 6, 2012 7:12 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

leafs look like they have a couple of really good young defencemen

by dessert1111 on Feb 6, 2012 7:05 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

I thought they’ve been pretty sloppy overall tonight, but I do think there is a lot of potential

by ShahofToronto on Feb 6, 2012 7:08 PM MST up reply actions  

They look good because you are watching the Oilers defense at the same time.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 7:08 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

the teams should just play five forwards each

by Romulus' Apotheosis on Feb 6, 2012 7:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Gardiner is progressing. Schenn’s development plan has been as bad as Gagner’s.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Love Smytty’s snapshot windup

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 7:11 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Slapshot…damn auto-correct

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 7:12 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Barker is less mobile than Whitney on one leg.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:11 PM MST reply actions  

I’ve seen cadavers with more mobility than Barker.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 7:13 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

This team isn’t even letting their “chosen ones” get through their rookie seasons before they start rushing them back, throwing them out injured and unready…

by Trites on Feb 6, 2012 7:13 PM MST reply actions  

Barker’s not a rookie.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Barker’s not a “chosen one” either… unless you interpreted “chosen ones” as one of those kids that NHL teams sometime allow to skate with the players during warmup..

by Trites on Feb 6, 2012 7:41 PM MST up reply actions  

I was being sarcastic.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Tambo's Plan

Finish 30th and obtain high draft picks.
Rush draft picks/young talent to NHL on 30th place team.
Obtain high pick & sell young talent low for more draft picks.
Finish 30th.

… We have hired Bizarro Sam Pollock.

by Trites on Feb 6, 2012 7:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Is Potter hurt again? He can’t move.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:16 PM MST reply actions  

Gold star. You don’t have to work any more today.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Both teams finding the post!

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 7:17 PM MST reply actions  

old time hockey! Too bad more games weren’t this vibrant (win or lose, it’s more fun).

by Romulus' Apotheosis on Feb 6, 2012 7:17 PM MST up reply actions  

There’s been some good end-to-end in this one, for sure.

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 7:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Clarke friggin’ MacArthur just skated away from Barker like he was standing still.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:19 PM MST reply actions  

I don’t know if I’ve ever seen Horcoff and Belanger play so deep on defense in the offensive zone and neutral zone.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:20 PM MST reply actions  

It is painful watching 13.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 7:22 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

I must be getting old – my first thought on reading that was “c’mon, Cogliano’s not that bad.”

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 7:28 PM MST up reply actions  

You’re right. Cogliano is not as bad as Barker.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 7:36 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

No, you’re getting old when your first thought is, “c’mon, Kenny Linseman’s not that bad.”

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 7:39 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d, for truth! :)

The scary thing is I remember Ken Linseman quite well – especially the night he bit Lee Fogolin…

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 7:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice work Barker. Should’ve written a note to Lombardi that you were about to shoot into his leg.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:22 PM MST reply actions  

well, that helps the team. first night with everyone healthy you had to know something would happen… something terrible. here’s hoping he’s just getting his skates worked on.

by Romulus' Apotheosis on Feb 6, 2012 7:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Per the radio guys, he did in fact tweak the shoulder again. :P

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 7:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Tencer just tweeted left shoulder.

I wonder if Tambellini could get fired for getting the chosen ones injured so often?

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Nah, we just need new medical staff.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 7:30 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Great. I assume you are referring to Nugget?

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 7:30 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

This team isn’t even letting their "chosen ones" get through their rookie seasons before they start rushing them back, throwing them out injured and unready…

by Trites on Feb 6, 2012 7:48 PM MST up reply actions  

2 goals 3:20mins. no problem. right guys? right?

by Romulus' Apotheosis on Feb 6, 2012 7:28 PM MST reply actions  

Big fan of the early goalie-pull.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 7:30 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Yep. Great move.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 7:31 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Damn. Just while I was posting my support of this notion.

by eddy the lip on Feb 6, 2012 7:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Didn’t work this time, but yeah, it’s generally a good idea.

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 7:32 PM MST up reply actions  

that ALWAYS works.

by Whamba on Feb 6, 2012 7:32 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

What I don’t understand is why you put the goalie back in. It’s not like the situation has changed.

by eddy the lip on Feb 6, 2012 7:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed. EN GA don’t matter. They’re probably a bit better than nothing actually because they pump the stats of your opponents (which might make them marginally more expensive) and saddle your guys with extra minuses (which might make them marginally less expensive).

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 7:35 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

You’re a crafty man. I approve.

by eddy the lip on Feb 6, 2012 7:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Sounds like it would work well with the “let’s build a terrible defense so our forwards never get the puck and can’t get points so they will have to sign for less” plan. Let’s call it “Fire Tambi” for short.

The Edmonton Oilers – Rebuilding through character assassination since 1998

by Joe Girth on Feb 7, 2012 8:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Only works for the Kings

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Finally! Gilbert and Smid back together out there!

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:32 PM MST reply actions  

Wonder Twin powers, acti….oh, never mind.

by eddy the lip on Feb 6, 2012 7:33 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

OK. Good night from Music City.

I’ll try to pop in Wednesday. I’ll be at the Preds / Vancouver game tomorrow. Good luck against the Wings!

by Whamba on Feb 6, 2012 7:41 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

Thanks, and thanks for coming by again! Give the ’Nucks hell tomorrow (I may drop in at OTF if I get back from the Petes game in time)!

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 7:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Davisca will be glad to welcome you in!

by Whamba on Feb 6, 2012 7:45 PM MST via Android app up reply actions  

I’d consider joining you but I’ll be out curling tomorrow night and will likely miss the hockey game.

by TakeoutArtist on Feb 6, 2012 7:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, the road form needs work, still.

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 7:34 PM MST reply actions  

I don’t know what that means, but your tears taste like fine wine.

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 6, 2012 7:36 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

You’ve got in on a good vintage.

by eddy the lip on Feb 6, 2012 7:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, they’re not as bitter as a Sens Fan Pinot, and without the unpleasant taste of cop car ash you get with a Habs Fan Merlot.

by LeafInVancouver on Feb 6, 2012 7:43 PM MST up reply actions  

So I’m actually going to see live hockey tomorrow – Peterborough Petes vs. Oshawa Generals. Anyone I should watch in particular (apart form Koekkoek)?

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 7:38 PM MST reply actions  

I’m not sure. I’d read that he was delaying his surgery until after the season, and was intending to return after Christmas, but I’m not sure if he did so. I’ll let you know tomorrow! :)

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 7:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Scott Laughton (F-OSH) is ranked 43rd (thus far in Feb, missing three updates)

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 7:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks – I’ll keep an eye on him!

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 8:00 PM MST up reply actions  

In other news, Mr. Evans had his first ever beer tonight. It did not go well.

by Chunklets on Feb 6, 2012 8:03 PM MST up reply actions  

.
As it stands, the Leafs need to beat out just one of the Senators, Panthers, or Capitals, and even though the Leafs are likely fourth of four on that list in terms of team quality, they’ve probably got a better than 50% shot at making it in.

Oh rly?

Good game, nonetheless. Eberle was sick, wicked, and nasty tonight.

"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question that divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct."
- Niels Bohr

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by Frag on Feb 6, 2012 8:15 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

As I said above, the Leafs success so far this season has been driven mostly by shooting percentages on the PP and at EV, which is something that SCS doesn’t take into consideration in their calculations. Their Fenwick percentage with score tied was the lowest of those four teams coming into tonight, and they have the most road-heavy schedule the rest of the way. Which of those teams do you think the Leafs are clearly ahead of?

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 8:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Want to know something else? The 09-10 Leafs had a Fenwick Tied Percentage of 52.83%, which was 5th in the NHL. Their Fenwick Close% that season was 51.55%, 8th in the NHL. You want to know where they ended up? 2nd last in the NHL.

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by Frag on Feb 6, 2012 8:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I’ll take all the luck we can get, and this team on paper is better than the Sens.

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by Frag on Feb 6, 2012 8:45 PM MST up reply actions  

The Leafs’ goaltending that season was terrible. 12 of the top 16 teams in Fenwick Close percentage made the playoffs in 2009-10. I don’t think you can wave it away as unimportant because the Leafs happened to have other glaring weaknesses that year. That demonstrates that it isn’t the only statistic that matters, but for future performance, I’d much rather bet on that than really high shooting percentages having sustain. Combine that with the Leafs road-heavy schedule, and I think placing the Leafs fourth of those four teams is a reasonable position.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 11:11 PM MST up reply actions  

We’ll see…

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by Frag on Feb 7, 2012 7:15 AM MST up reply actions  

It’s kind of an odd disagreement. While we disagree about the overall strength of the Leafs, we agree that the club is more likely to make the playoffs than not.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 7, 2012 7:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Good game, guys, even if both defenses played like something out of a beer league game.

I’ll be at Rexall on the 15th for Round 2. On the bright side, if the Oilers do exact their revenge on the Leafs, I will just drown my sorrows in the toxic Rexall beer. So, really, it’s win-win for me.

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