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Theo Peckham - #15 in Copper & Blue's Top 25 Under 25

You've got to love that grin.

When Theo Peckham was called up in October of 2009, I saw Peckham's potential as a fifth or sixth defensemen, and identified Rick Berry as a pretty good comparable. So far, that comparison is tracking well enough, although Peckham is clearly ahead by some measures. For example, like Berry, Peckham played his first full NHL season at 23, but unlike Berry, Peckham played a good portion of those minutes on one of the top two pairings (he played 18:36 per game compared to 11:23 per game for Berry). Of course, Peckham was generally overwhelmed in those minutes, while Berry had to crack the 2001-02 Colorado Avalanche, a team that was just a wee bit better than last year's Oilers. Berry played in parts of two more seasons before washing out of the NHL after 197 games, a casualty of the "new NHL" after the lockout.

Theo Peckham has now played 148 games in the NHL, but has had trouble getting into the Oilers' lineup consistently when everyone is healthy. That means not being able to outplay Cam Barker or Andy Sutton. That's a problem. Is Theo Peckham on his way out of the NHL?

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Rank Player DOB Drafted Year Ben
Bruce
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Derek
Jon Ryan Scott
15 Theo Peckham 11/10/87
75 2006
8 16 11 20 16 17 17

Previous Rank: 14

Safe to say that Ben doesn't think so. Either that, or he thinks that our group of U25 players is even more shallow than I do. Maybe a bit of both. When a twenty-four-year-old in his fifth pro season who isn't an everyday player in the NHL is ranked in the top twenty by everyone on the panel, you know that there are a lot of longshots in the mix.

So why am I down on Peckham? I'll let Derek summarize:

Peckham needs to better his positioning and awareness before he can be effective. His propensity to take dumb penalties is magnified by him always being out of position.

That's pretty much it!

The puck generally isn't moving the right way when Peckham is on the ice. His Corsi rate last season was worse than everyone save Taylor Chorney and Jason Strudwick, two guys who probably didn't belong in the NHL. This season, he bests only Ryan Whitney and Cam Barker, and given Whitney's injuries, that's two more players who haven't been good NHL options. If we turn to scoring chances, when playing with anyone but Tom Gilbert his scoring chance percentage is abysmal. Last year it was 40%. This year, I don't have his Gilbert splits, but he was trucking along at 42% overall through the first half.

Lest we think this is a product of poor teammates, Peckham is well down the list on David Staples' individual scoring chances project with a whopping -78 rating, which is last on the team by a mile. His individual scoring chance percentage of 29% is atrocious, but not quite last thanks to Taylor Chorney and Colten Teubert, two more players who - you guessed it - don't belong in the NHL.

Penalties. Peckham takes a lot of them. Last season, he was third in the NHL among all players with 38 minor penalties. This year, he's tied for 15th with 22. Looking at just defenders, he's one of three Oilers in the top fifteen for penalties taken per sixty minutes. Last season, he was among the top ten. That's a lot of penalties, and it takes an awful lot of good play to make up for that much time sitting in the box.

There you go. Right now, Theo Peckham is a bad defenseman. So how does he make the top twenty on every ballot? I think there are three big reasons. First, he's in the NHL. On some level, he's made it, and if given enough chances, he could still develop into that solid fifth or sixth defender on a good team. Second, after you get past the wunderkinds, the Oilers don't exactly have a heaping helping of amazing prospects. Everyone has their flaws, and that will keep propping Peckham up. Third, he's really likable. He pounded Claude Lemieux. He kept Max Lapierre from turtling. He always has a huge grin on his face. I have him as high as I do because I think that he still has a chance to become a bit more disciplined, and improve his overall game enough to hit that reliable five or six spot, and because, if he does, the finished product will no doubt bring a smile to my face many times each year.

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Wow, talk about faint praise. So faint I could barely hear it.

by gcw_rocks on Feb 6, 2012 12:25 PM MST reply actions  

Perhaps your speakers are on mute?

by Yeti# on Feb 6, 2012 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

The one thing working in his favor is age, but that’s slowly catching up. Defense only defensemen take much longer to catch up and have a much tougher time making an impact. He’s a year younger than Smid, who had his big breakout this season, but he’s not shown the incremental gains that Smid was showing in the years leading up to this breakout. Smid was a good defensemen when paired with a puck-mover, he just fell apart with Staios and his ilk.

Peckham has about a year left to make a jump and it doesn’t seem likely.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 1:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Bunk. Now I remember why I stopped reading copper and blue.

Peckham has penalties because he is a tough guy. He has high numbers because he fights and takes misconducts and most the time he took them to send the proper message! This is not his 5th season – the first 3 he was a call up. Last year was the first year he actually made the team and he had the highest +/- of the D. He is also the only one who up until recently has been pretty much a plus player all season.

Copper and Blue always see the glass half empty when it comes to Peckham. Does he have mental lapses ? Yes but far less than others on the team. But when he does he gets crucified! He has far less turn overs they some of C&P’s the favoured few. He is also there on hits and blocked shots. But I guess people see what they want to see,

by love4hockey on Feb 6, 2012 1:13 PM MST reply actions  

Peckham has penalties because he is a tough guy.

Dude, the article specifically states minor penalties. He was third in the entire NHL for minor penalties – i.e. not for fighting. This isn’t about toughness. The only message Peckham was sending was along the lines of ‘shit, I’m out of position again, better hook my man’.

by Yeti# on Feb 6, 2012 1:20 PM MST up reply actions  

He doesn’t take many hooking calls Usually it is roughing and boarding with a dash of interference. Everyone parots he is out of position but I don’t see it as often as people say. And trust me I watch. Bottom line is if he was always out of position it would show in +/- and it doesn’t.

by love4hockey on Feb 6, 2012 1:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Here’s last year’s list:

Boarding: 1
Cross-checking: 2
Delay (puck over glass): 2
Elbowing: 1
High-sticking: 4 (10 min)
Holding: 5
Hooking: 5
Interference: 4
Roughing: 9
Slashing: 1
Tripping: 4

Yeah, roughing is the most frequent. But crimes of positioning — holding, hooking, interference, tripping — add up to more than half the list.

by Eric T. on Feb 6, 2012 1:54 PM MST up reply actions  

For comparison, here’s Smid’s list from last year (in 15% more minutes):

Boarding: 3
Cross-checking: 0
Delay: 1
Elbowing: 1
High-sticking: 2
Holding: 4
Hooking: 1
Interference: 3
Roughing: 9
Slashing: 0
Tripping: 2

Just as many of your roughing and boarding tough-guy penalties, but with half as many of the positioning penalties.

by Eric T. on Feb 6, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Last year but not so much this year. I disagree about interference being out of postition often that can be someone clearing out the front of the net (which Theo does) or would you rather he didn’t do that?

by love4hockey on Feb 6, 2012 2:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Last year but not so much this year.

This year, he’s played 60% as many minutes so far as he did for the season last year and has taken:

Boarding: 0
Charging: 1
Cross-checking: 3
Delay: 0
Elbowing: 0
High-sticking: 1
Holding: 6
Instigator: 1
Interference: 3
Roughing: 4
Slashing: 1
Tripping: 2

So he’s on pace to take five more holding penalties this year, five fewer hooking penalties, the same number of tripping penalties, and one more interference penalty.

In other words, the exact same rate of positioning penalties, except all of his hookings have turned into holdings.

by Eric T. on Feb 6, 2012 2:18 PM MST up reply actions  

i like both side of this argument….but without knowing where these penalties took place, it is impossible to call a hook/hold penalty a “positioning penalty” Is it along the boards or in the corner or in front of his net?

Also i’ve noticed Peckham has changed his game tremendously from last year…It seems to me that his place on this team is fairly secure, he has paid his dues and earned his copper and blue stripes…It seems the coaching has him working on playing a more conservative role to go along with his increased ice-time….I remember watching a PK where he literally didn’t take more than 3 strides for over a minutes, just stood in the slot and covered passing lanes with his stick, and blocked 3 shots….As soon as a loose puck appeared along his half-wall, he exploded to it, beating a tired winger half the distance away and cleared the puck….He’s getting smarter and “Doing less” You know the saying “DO LESS!!”

by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Feb 7, 2012 6:35 PM MST up reply actions  

PK is different than ES.

His PK work has been great… it’s his ES work that gets him into trouble.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

Tactical contributor to the Copper & Blue and just as boring on the twitters... @dawgbone98

by dawgbone98 on Feb 8, 2012 8:04 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

And what is your opinion of his potential? Even if he cut back to a reasonable amount of penalties and grew out of the lapses I think anything above 5 is a long shot.

by till_horcoff_is_coach on Feb 6, 2012 1:22 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t disagree there 5th is about it.

by love4hockey on Feb 6, 2012 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

That I don’t disagree with, and last season is incredibly hard to judge because he was forced to play the toughs for an extended stretch of the season and he wasn’t ready to do so.

This season, however, is really hard to watch because he’s playing very easy minutes and not taking the steps forward.

His ZS adjusted Corsi is 150th of 174 defensemen in the league, though his qualcomp is 118th toughest of those 174 defensemen. He’s not saddled with 1st pairing minutes and he’s not even getting second-pairing minutes. But he’s still not moving the puck in the right direction.

What really lowers my view of him, however, is that his most common teammates this season have been Smyth – Gagner – Eberle and Petry. Despite decent linemates and soft minutes, he’s still struggling.

As I said above, he’s got about a year left to make a huge jump.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 2:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Well I think we need to agree to disagree. As you think of him as “a bad defenseman” I don’t think he is and I don’t think the coaches do either,

by love4hockey on Feb 6, 2012 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t know what agree to disagree means in this case. He’s not driving play against soft minutes with good teammates and he’s still taking too many penalties.

Maybe he’s like Deryk Engelland and he takes 8-10 years to figure it all out, sure. But there’s a long way to go and without more attention to heady hockey, he’s going to be stuck on the bottom of the rotation and kept around as “a physical presence” rather than meaningfully contributing.

I’ve been rooting for him since he was shredding the toughs in the AHL, but his development has been terribly slow.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

You forgot to mention how many ill-timed pinches Peckham makes. He makes poor decisions out there (should have developed in the minors).

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 8:00 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

He’s in-between. He kicked sand in the face of the AHL in his last full season there. But last season he was pulled onto the first pair by management’s lack of foresight and injuries. It was a rough year for any sort of development.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 9:46 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m not sure that you read all that carefully. I didn’t say that this is his fifth NHL season; I said that this is his fifth professional season, which is true. I think that’s important because I’d be a lot more optimistic if he were a rookie pro coming out of the NCAA.

Yeti has already mentioned that one of things measured here is minor penalties. He takes a tonne of them. That’s not misconducts or fighting majors skewing things. It’s just a lot of penalties that put the Oilers short (although I acknowledge that he’ll have a bunch that are coincidental).

As for your claim that he has far fewer mental lapses than others, it’s very difficult to evaluate whether or not that’s true based on impressions. I tend to defer to David Staples on measuring this since he does so methodically (if you do this too, please let me know where I can find your results), especially when his observations match up well with team scoring chances as measured by Dennis King. And in Peckham’s case, they do. Both suggest that he makes a lot of mistakes which cause chances against.

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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 6, 2012 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Peckham has penalties because he is a tough guy. He has high numbers because he fights and takes misconducts and most the time he took them to send the proper message!

Scott was specifically speaking about minor penalties.

2011-12: Peckham is-worst on the team in minor penalties with 22, next closest is 18. He’s 18th-worst in the league. He’s 21st-worst in the league in penalties taken per 60. He’s 15th-worst in the league in penalties differential.

2010-11: Peckham is worst on the team in minor penalties with 38, next closest is 27. He’s 3rd worst in the league. He’s 6th worst in the league in penalties take per 60. He’s 13th-worst in the league in penalties differential.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 1:51 PM MST up reply actions  

He is also the only one who up until recently has been pretty much a plus player all season.

Thanks to some luck in his on-ice shooting percentage.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 1:53 PM MST up reply actions  

oh come on now lucky 2 years in a row? And the same thing was seen in the AHL when it came to his plus minus. it’s not just luck that many years in a row.

by love4hockey on Feb 6, 2012 2:02 PM MST up reply actions  

This year, the Oilers are shooting about 8.2% at 5 on 5. They’re shooting 10.3% at 5 on 5 with Peckham on the ice.

That difference has a huge impact on his +/-, because his teammates are scoring a lot more with him on the ice than with him off of it. So either you have to argue that the defensive defenseman is driving his teammates’ shooting percentages up by a phenomenal amount or you have to accept that he’s been lucky with his on-ice shooting percentage, at least this year.

by Eric T. on Feb 6, 2012 2:09 PM MST up reply actions  

He has far less turn overs they some of C&P’s the favoured few.

Because he doesn’t handle the puck in his own zone.

http://www.coppernblue.com/2011/11/11/2554850/jeff-petry-theo-peckham-zone-exits

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 1:55 PM MST up reply actions  

lol there is some truth to that!

by love4hockey on Feb 6, 2012 2:03 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I personally prefer an actual defenseman to a greening, likable “out-of-position/perpetual penalty box-dweller” type of guy. At the same time, I like Teddy much more than Chorney.

by Roman_Pilgrim on Feb 6, 2012 1:41 PM MST reply actions  

Can’t believe Ben Massey has Peckham 8th. Wow.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 6, 2012 8:03 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Ben enjoys the physical aspects of the game most of all.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 9:46 PM MST up reply actions  

That and Peckham already has almost 150 NHL games played, which is about 100 more than at least 15 of these guys will see as an Oiler.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

Tactical contributor to the Copper & Blue and just as boring on the twitters... @dawgbone98

by dawgbone98 on Feb 7, 2012 7:44 AM MST up reply actions  

I think Peckham is in a bit of a bad situation.

He is expected to be a phyiscal, bruising defenceman that puts the fear of god into the other team.

When he plays like that, he ends up out of position.

When he just tries to stick to being a regular defenceman, he is actually pretty darn good. He skates well, both in terms of acceleration and speed. He’s good along the boards and has a pretty good stick, both in terms of deflecting passes and tying guys up.

When you see a goal against Peckham, he’s often scrambling to get back into the play. He isn’t often beat around the front of the net for rebounds or tips.

He honestly reminds me a lot of Jason Smith. Before coming to Edmonton, Smith was trying to play the big bruiser role and his game often suffered because of it. When he got to Edmonton, the expectation was that he just worry about playing defence and not so much making sure everyone who came down his side ate a forearm.

I think Peckham can be that guy, but he needs to get reeled in a bit. That might not happen in an organization that thinks you get tougher by adding 4th liners.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

Tactical contributor to the Copper & Blue and just as boring on the twitters... @dawgbone98

by dawgbone98 on Feb 7, 2012 7:54 AM MST reply actions  

There’s no question the ability is there, but his head has to catch up. That’s why these last two seasons have been so disappointing.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Feb 7, 2012 9:09 AM MST up reply actions  

I think Huddy would work wonders with him.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

Tactical contributor to the Copper & Blue and just as boring on the twitters... @dawgbone98

by dawgbone98 on Feb 7, 2012 12:54 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Undoubtedly, but that’s not happening.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Feb 7, 2012 6:40 PM MST up reply actions  

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