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Oilers January NHLE - Scoring Depth Has Disappeared

When we tallied up the final NHLE numbers for the 2010-11 season, the Oilers had seven forward prospects with an equivalency of 30 points or better and that didn't include Tyler Pitlick or Teemu Hartikainen. This season, the scoring depth has disappeared. Linus Omark will still score 40-50 points a season in th NHL for someone, but Robby Dee, Liam Reddox and Alexei Mikhnov all moved on. The remaining prospects have somehow simultaneously fallen into a slump.

For a complete look at all of the Oilers' prospects and their NHL numbers, we can use Gabriel Desjardins' NHL Equivalency. Gabe's methodologies are described on his translations page:

One way to evaluate the difficulty of one league relative to another is to examine the relative performance of players who have played in both leagues. Players rarely play significant time in two leagues in the same year, but they often play in one league in one year and in another the next. As long as a player’s skill level is approximately constant over this two year period, the ratio of his performance in each league can be used to estimate the relative difficulty of the two leagues.

After the jump is the full list of skating prospects with their NHL Equivalency and full season projections.

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Player League DOB Drafted NHL82 G NHL82 A NHL82 P Change
Linus Omark AHL 2/5/87 97 5 36 41 0
Tobias Rieder CHL 1/10/93 114 17 14 31 3
Kellen Jones NCAA 8/16/90 202 9 20 29 1
Toni Rajala SM-Liiga 3/29/91 101 15 12 27 -8
Philippe Cornet AHL 3/28/90 133 19 7 26 1
Teemu Hartikainen AHL 5/3/90 163 12 12 24 1
Mark Arcobello AHL 8/12/88 Und 7 14 21 3
Milan Kytnar ECHL 5/19/89 127 11 8 19 0
Drew Czerwonka CHL 7/1/92 166 8 11 19 -1
Kristians Pelss CHL 9/9/92 181 9 8 17 0
Ryan O'Marra AHL 3/29/91 15 7 9 16 1
Ryan Martindale ECHL 10/27/91 61 5 8 13 -2
Chris VandeVelde AHL 3/15/87 97 3 8 11 0
Tyler Pitlick AHL 11/1/91 31 4 6 10 -1
Antti Tyrvainen AHL 4/3/89 Und 3 7 10 -4
Curtis Hamilton AHL 12/4/91 48 4 5 9 -2
Cameron Abney ECHL 5/23/91 82 2 3 5 0
Travis Ewanyk CHL 3/29/93 74 Inj Inj Inj Inj
  • The other 30-point forwards - Anton Lander, Curtis Hamilton, Ryan Martindale - have collapsed. Hamilton and Martindale moved into the professional ranks and haven't been able to adjust. Anton Lander was rushed to the NHL and has struggled.
  • Tobias Rieder, #20 in our Top 25 Under 25, has stepped into the void with an NHLE of 31. Through improvement or attrition, Rieder is now the best goal-scoring prospect in the organization.
  • Though Hartikainen hasn't dominated the NHL as expected, his play hasn't fallen off - his NHLE of 24 is a point better than his 2010-11 season-ending total.
Player League DOB Drafted NHL82 G NHL82 A NHL82 P Change
Martin Gernat CHL 4/11/93 122 5 17 22 3
Jeremie Blain CHL 3/19/92 91 5 17 22 2
Kyle Bigos NCAA 5/12/89 99 5 15 20 0
Taylor Chorney AHL 4/27/87 36 4 13 17 -2
Dillon Simpson NCAA 2/10/93 92 1 15 16 1
Brandon Davidson CHL 8/21/91 162 4 12 16 -2
Alex Plante AHL 5/9/89 15 1 13 14 0
Martin Marincin CHL 2/18/92 46 4 10 14 0
Colten Teubert AHL 3/8/90 13 4 9 13 1
Kevin Montgomery AHL 4/4/88 110 1 8 9 1
Ryan Lowery AHL 9/6/88 Und 1 8 9 -1
David Musil CHL 4/9/93 31 0 9 9 -2
Kirill Tulupov AHL 4/23/88 67 0 8 8 -1
Oscar Klefbom SEL 7/20/93 19 0 0 0 0
Taylor Fedun AHL 6/4/88 Und Inj Inj Inj Inj
  • Though there are three first-round picks and three second-round picks on the blueline in the organization, the leading scorers are a pair of fourth-round picks and a fifth-round pick. Gernat and Blain are still years away, but Bigos may be close to contributing at the NHL level.
  • Oscar Klefbom still doesn't have a point on the season. At some point he has to accidentally get an assist off of his skate, right?
  • Dillon Simpson's totals have increased through each month of the season. Beginning with October, his totals have been 0 --> 12 --> 15 -->16.

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…the Oilers’ non-1st overall draft picks aren’t projecting to be top six scorers?

Too bad they didn’t have any bona fide top sixers in the system already that management can just extend contracts to.

Is there any hope this stretch of prospect production doldrums will convince management that picks and prospects do not equal actual NHLers?

by OilPen on Feb 5, 2012 9:07 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Rieder and Jones are long shots, the need min. 3 years more.
One thing is clear, the Oilers have many 1st rounders for the top six, as it is ok if the 2nd – 4th rounder are bottom players. Of course, not by economic criteria, but who asks for it?

Of course, a hole is formed, which act by Lowe as GM. Many drafts were inadequate or could not develop in Springfield. Other acquired by trade, such as Ryan Stone were just unlucky.

Poor youth development program draws its shadow long after!

bring Sheldon Souray back!

by Screaming69 on Feb 6, 2012 2:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Is there any hope this stretch of prospect production doldrums will convince management that picks and prospects do not equal actual NHLers?

We’ll see when the returns for Hemsky and Sutton come in.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2012/1/17/2712507/mid-season-nhle-how-the-canadiens-prospects-are-performing-offensively

I did a similar thing for Montreal a short while ago which should put this in context. The Habs have 8 guys that have better numbers then Reider, plus one that has done pretty well in the NHL despite not having noteworthy AHL scoring (Leblanc).

Writer for http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/

by Stephan Cooper on Feb 5, 2012 10:01 PM MST reply actions  

The Oilers are in big trouble. They think that they can ride the coatails of three players to the promise land but it takes more than three stars to ice a dominant team. We’re headed to years of being Anaheim North because we keep getting rid of good players and not replacing them.

by Captain Obvious II on Feb 6, 2012 11:13 AM MST reply actions  

OT comment:

I read the title as NLHE at first and figured there was a poker tournament involved.


Writing for Driving Play - The Blog with Three First Lines and The Copper & Blue.

by Chase W on Feb 6, 2012 8:51 PM MST reply actions  

I do it nearly every time I type it.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2012 9:45 PM MST up reply actions  

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