Facts & Tidbits From Sam Gagner's 8-Point Night
by Derek Zona on Feb 3, 2012 12:00 PM MST
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Sam Gagner attempted 8 shots, missed once, had one blocked and put six on goal. He scored on four of them. His average shot distance on his four goals, according to the official scorer, was 19 feet.
19 different players appeared for the Blackhawks last night. Sam Gagner scored on 18 of them. Gagner scored on 11 of them multiple times. The breakdown is as follows:
Duncan Keith 2x, Niklas Hjalmarsson 5x, Brent Seabrook 3x, Nick Leddy 5x, Patrick Sharp 3x, Marcus Kruger 2x, Brendan Morrison 1x, Jonathan Toews 1x, Jamal Mayers 1x, Viktor Stalberg 1x, Bryan Bickell 1x, Ray Emery 3x, John Scott 1x, Dave Bolland 5x, Corey Crawford 5x, Andrew Shaw 3x, Marian Hossa 3x, Patrick Kane 1x. Andrew Brunette avoided Gagner's wrath only because he left the game due to injury after playing 2:30 in the first period.
Gagner scored with 11 different Oilers:
Taylor Hall 6x, Ladislav Smid 1x, Ryan Whitney 3x, Cam Barker 5x, Jordan Eberle 6x, Andy Sutton 4x, Ryan Jones 1x, Lennart Petrell 1x, Devan Dubnyk 8x, Corey Potter 2x, Jeff Petry 1x.
Gagner began the night at -4 for the season, 600th in the NHL. He ended the night +2 for the season, 222nd in the NHL.
Gagner began the night with 22 points, 200th in the NHL. He ended the night with 30 points, 110th in the NHL.
Gagner's 8 points last night are more than the season totals of 24 forwards who have appeared in 40 or more games thus far in 2011-12.
Gagner joins Mario Lemieux as the only 8-point scorers to have been involved in every one of their team's goals during their 8 point game.
Gagner scored 8 points in 34 minutes of actual game time last night. After returning from injury on October 22nd, it took him 1148 minutes of actual game time to collect his 8th point.
Gagner's 8 points last night are equal to or greater than the career totals of 6 NHL players with at least 100 games played:
Paul Bissonnette (120 GP, 8 PTS), Ryan Parent (106 GP, 7 PTS), Matt Smaby (122 GP, 6 PTS), John Scott (133 GP, 5 PTS), David Koci (142 GP, 4 PTS), Francis Lessard (115 GP 4 PTS)
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Looking to you to provide some insight into how Ebs, Hallsy and Gags ran the table on the Hawks like they did. Literally, every time they touched the puck it was panic city on the Hawks side. Skating around Morrison, Hossa (although I thought he played well last night) and their D was unreal. Has Renney found magic here with these 3? What to do when RNH comes back? Have we really found our 2nd line center? Sorry for the rambling.
It was a night of crazy good luck.
As to Gagner being a second line centre, I’ll have more on that later this week
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It helps that 3 of the goals were just terrible goals to begin with and that Chicago had to play catch-up and opened up the game, which created more opportunities.
There was one sequence where the Hawks pinned the Oilers, got a couple of decent shots off and the Oilers brought the puck back up the ice and scored.
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Karma is just throwing us a bone here. Now back to your regularly scheduled shitty hockey team.
by Matt.N on Feb 3, 2012 1:35 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
His average shot distance on his four goals, according to the official scorer, was 19 feet.
So realistically it was probably closer to 10 then.
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19 feet from what? The guy on Row 10 counting the shots?
Three of the goals came from the lip of the crease, the fourth from the circle.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 3, 2012 4:29 PM MST up reply actions
I’m looking at the highlights and trying to figure this out. The only way it can be 19 feet is if the measurement is taken from the center point of the goal on the goal line, not from the nearest post.
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That was the conclusion I came to when I looked, but even then, it seems overestimated.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 4, 2012 7:04 PM MST up reply actions
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it seems like for the most part Renney was able to keep Gagner away from Toews, Kane and to a lesser extent, Keith.
Pillow soft zone starts too. He had it handed to him on a platter.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 4, 2012 12:32 AM MST up reply actions
Its completely unfair to compare Gagners one great game to Hopkins entire season. At least compare it to Hopkin’s best game or compare the results from all the games gagner got favourable zone starts to hopkin’s season.
Not saying gagner won’t come out better, but at least the comparison will be fair.
by gcw_rocks on Feb 4, 2012 7:27 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Of course it is. But Bruce can’t get over the fact that Hopkins, when adjusting for zonestarts, is giving back more than he’s creating, so he took the opportunity to comment on it.
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Last time I looked (5 seconds ago) RNH is leading the Oilers in positive goal-differential per 60 at even strength, and by a significnat margin. I’m not going to argue that he’s “killing it” because I am well aware that Renney is sheltering his zone starts and (at home at least) his comp to the best that he can. Still, an 18-year-old leading his team in such a key category is not insignificant.
That said, any argument that adjusting for zone start and such changes the equation from “leading his team” to “having his lunch money taken” is absolutely fucking ludicrous, and yes I am going to challenge statements like that.
I am all in favour of secondary stats providing depth and colour to our analyses, but when we start putting total stock in things like “Zone Start Adjusted Corsi” and zero apparent value in things like GF/GA ON, I think we’re losing the plot. Yes RNH is doing better because of the circumstances his coach has used him. No he doesn’t stink. The truth lies :) somewhere in the middle.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 5, 2012 3:36 PM MST up reply actions
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