Are Players Who Start in the NHL as Teenagers More Susceptible to Injury?
After watching both Taylor Hall and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins suffer moderate injuries in their 18 year old season, I couldn't help but think of players like David Perron and Victor Hedman who also suffered some pretty serious injuries in their teenage years while playing in the NHL.
This lead me to question whether players who come into the NHL at 18 or 19 tend to get hurt more than players who are kept out of the NHL until they are 20 and older. I went from the 2005 draft until this season for my data and only looked at players who were picked in the first 2 rounds.
I only went to 04-05 because the lockout in 04-05 prevented some players from playing as 18 or 19 year olds who might otherwise have. I also only focused on the first 2 rounds because there were no 3rd round picks to play as 18 year olds, but there were several 2nd round picks who did. The other criteria that I used was that a season had to consist of more 10 or more NHL games to count as a first season.
In order for an injury to count, it had to be documented by TSN in the player’s bio. Illness (such as Kessel’s cancer), or injuries that occurred outside of the NHL (i.e. an AHL injury or Erik Johnson’s golf injury) are not factored in.
There have been 72 players drafted since 2005 who played their first NHL season at 18 or 19, and 59 players who started at 20 or older. Players who started at 18 or 19 have combined to play 14116 NHL games. Players who started at 20 or older have combined to play 11188.
| Age | TPG | GP | GINJ | GINJ% |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 18-19 | 15767 | 14116 | 1651 | 10.47% |
| 20+ | 12135 | 11188 | 947 | 7.80% |
- TPG (total potential games) is GP (games played) + GINJ (games injured), this allows for healthy scratches and AHL assignments, so it’s only games the player could have played in the NHL if healthy.
- GINJ% (games injured percentage) is the amount of GINJ divided by TPG.
As we can see, players who start at 18 or 19 have missed, on average, 10.5% of all total potential games. Players who start in the NHL at 20 or older have missed, on average, 7.8% of all total potential games. Before reading too much into this, there are other factors at play. For instance, if you play 100 games at 16 minutes per night, there’s a greater chance to get hurt than you would if you played 100 games at 8 minutes per night. There’s also of course the argument that these players could have suffered the same injuries if they started at 20 instead of 18 or 19.
Just for fun, I wanted to look at some of the bigger contributors to each sides respective numbers. For the 18-19 group, these are a few of of samples that really stand out:
| Player | TPG | GINJ | GINJ% |
|---|---|---|---|
| David Perron | 355 | 96 | 27% |
| Peter Mueller | 376 | 143 | 38% |
| James Sheppard | 356 | 132 | 37% |
For the 20+ group, there are a bunch of guys who have limited GP but have missed a lot of games because of injury:
| Player | TPG | GINJ | GINJ% |
|---|---|---|---|
| Patrice Cormier | 50 | 23 | 46% |
| Marco Scandella | 85 | 28 | 33% |
| Kendall McArdle | 75 | 33 | 44% |
| Taylor Chorney | 102 | 41 | 40% |
I was curious as to whether one side or the other was being unfairly penalized for players who only played a limited of NHL games and happened to get hurt. I used 150 games as an arbitrary number and got the following:
| Age | TPG | GP | GINJ | GINJ% |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 18-19 | 12940 | 11797 | 1433 | 10.83% |
| 20+ | 7764 | 7167 | 597 | 7.69% |
The numbers don't move all that much and it seems pretty consistent. So while the link isn't necessarily that strong (based on the factors I listed above), I think it’s something that NHL teams should start paying attention to. If I was a team who had a lot of young players coming in, it’s a study I’d probably want to invest in.
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I think there's a couple of obvious explanations to this...
first off I think you need to separate out the injuries they received AFTER they turned 20… including the injuries they got before they turned 20 is mixing data sets – you aren’t checking the same thing.
secondarily – guys that make the NHL early are targets for veteran NHL players – many of whom struggled to get there over a longer period of time. Older vets who “earned” their way in (self perception in all probability) likely have a bit of a chip on their shoulder in order to show “hot shot kids” what it’s like to play against men – take more liberties with kids, etc.
Either way – I’d re-run the numbers for the guys that start earlier but only look at the injury rate once they’ve hit 20… just for the sake of accurate rate comparisons.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
the only other way to do it
is compare injury rates in the minors to guys who make the NHL earlier – without doing that you aren’t really being fair in the “injury” comparison.
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the Leafs.
Not really the point.
I wasn’t looking for whether guys who entered the NHL at 18 get hurt at 21 as often as guys who enter the NHL at 20 do at that same age.
I was looking at whether guys who enter the NHL at 18 or 19 get hurt more compared to guys who enter the NHL at an older age? Not at a specific age, but just in general terms.
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I have a slight change to make.
There have been 72 players drafted since 2005 who played their first NHL season at 18 or 19, and 59 players who started at 20 or older
Is not accurate. I have the actual numbers elsewhere, but those numbers didn’t include the 2004-05 draft. I’ll ammend that as soon as I get the actual number of players.
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Before this year, the Devils haven’t used a player taken in the previous draft since Petr Sykora, who basically flamed out near the end of his first year because of various ailments (if memory serves, since that was 15 years ago). But I’ve watched Adam Larsson get thrashed around this year – he’s taken at least 5 enormous hits this year that I was sure would result in time on the sideline; finally one of them has knocked him out of a game. I’m not surprised at the result – it seems the combination of slower, smaller, and unused to the speed of the NHL game is a recipe for an increased injury risk.
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Before any nits get to this, regarding the Devils’ draft history, I was only speaking of 18 year olds, not overagers.
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This has more to do with the style he plays than how old he is. One extra year in Sweden would not have changed this, only given him an extra couple pounds
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by VanillaAcid on Feb 3, 2012 8:07 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
So Jordan Staal counts as a player who started young but who has racked up a few injuries, eh. Staal played 327 games through his 21-year-old season, which is in fact the most ever. But now that he’s had a couple injuries in his 22- and 23-year-old seasons, are you connecting the dots to the fact he started young? Seems pretty coincidental to me.
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There’s also of course the argument that these players could have suffered the same injuries if they started at 20 instead of 18 or 19.
No, I’m connecting any dots.
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Before reading too much into this, there are other factors at play. For instance, if you play 100 games at 16 minutes per night, there’s a greater chance to get hurt than you would if you played 100 games at 8 minutes per night.
This seems like a big factor. I would guess that the group of 18-19 year olds are better than those who didn’t make it into the league until they were 20+, and played more time. Do you by chance have TOI info? I think something like minutes played per GINJ would be a good measure.
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I’m a bit confused – are you counting the injuries suffered by the 20+ group outside of the NHL?
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I would, but that information isn’t available.
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I think that has a real chance to balance the numbers.
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I wouldn’t include that in these numbers though (I’d include as more of piece of information).
The numbers above are all based on NHL games and whether guys who entered at 18 tended to get hurt more in the NHL than guys who started at 20 or older.
I don’t think it’s necessary to include numbers from outside the NHL because if you miss 50 games in the OHL and come into the NHL at 20 and play 400 in a row without getting hurt, that injury doesn’t matter.
If you come in at 18 and play 500 NHL games and miss 50 because of an injury, that matters because the team is investing money in you to play and missing NHL games is a poor investment for the team.
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Yeah, this is an excellent point.
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Right, but at the same time, an injury at 18 will set back development whether it’s in the NHL, the CHL, the NCAA, or Europe. It’s intuitive that because these other guys are playing in lower leagues, they’re less likely to suffer severe injury for physiological reasons (incomplete development) or for mental reasons (inability to read/react/get out of the way in time). But without the lower-league data, it’s difficult to support that conclusion.
I honestly don’t buy the argument about a team’s investment in the short-term (i.e., whether you’re paying the guy at 18 or not), or rather, I don’t think it’s especially relevant: I’d be more concerned about the long-term investment. A more severe injury at an early age is bound to have further-reaching consequences throughout a player’s career. Heck, even a comparison of 18-20yo seasons in the NHL vs. lower leagues might be sufficient to shed some light, and avoid the confounding effect of post-20yo injuries Bruce mentioned above.
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Again, I’m not talking about the developmental aspects.
Players are only good if they are in the lineup and playing. I was curious whether guys who started in the NHL at 18 were injured more frequently in the NHL than guys who entered the NHL at 20.
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