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When the Oilers managed to come to terms with Ales Hemsky on a two-year contract extension, it was a sign that maybe the Oilers had made a decision that they were going to stop selling off NHL players for assets and turn this rebuild into a legitimate NHL team.

Unfortunately, this attempt at a legitimate team is brought to you by the same guys who gave Cam Barker and Nikolai Khabibulin a home in Edmonton. The trade that sees Tom Gilbert go from Edmonton to Minnesota for Nick Schultz is a trade that once again shows the Oilers complete lack of understanding in terms of what it takes to make a quality hockey team.

Don’t misunderstand me. I think Nick Schultz is a solid defenceman and that he would have been a great addition to the Oilers blueline. But the cost to acquire him was far too high, especially when you consider the current state of the Oilers defensive group.

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Heading into this season the Oilers had Tom Gilbert and Ladislav Smid as reliable, legitimate top 4 defencemen. Ryan Whitney was borderline simply because of health issues, and everyone else was either unproven (Jeff Petry), past their best before date (Andy Sutton) or had a track record of not being up for the task (Cam Barker, Theo Peckham and Corey Potter). Basically the Oilers needed something to happen out of virtually nothing and they were fortunate enough to have Jeff Petry (especially since the start of the calendar year), step into a top 4 role and contribute.

Think about this. The Oilers rebuild philosophy of “KIDZZZ!!!!” went out and worked. An organizational hole had been filled by an up and coming player that they had developed through their brand new farm system. It’s a joyous day for Oiler fans everywhere when something like this works.

Sadly, this is the same organization who looked at team toughness as a need and went out and added a pair of players who play less than 8 minute a night, then stare at each other with shit-eating grins like they’ve actually accomplished something.

It wasn’t good enough that Petry was able to fill an organizational hole. Oilers management had to look further up their depth chart to see if he could make anyone else expendable. After finally finding a couch that matches the rest of the living room furniture, the Oilers decided to move it into the bathroom to use it as a bath tub. Jeff Petry made Tom Gilbert expendable the same way a bowl makes milk expendable in cereal.

A player of Nick Schultz's calibre was desperately needed in addition to what this hockey team already had. Unfortunately, it seems the Oilers think that this trade (given their explanation) fixes a lot of what is wrong with this group on defence. This team would have been much better off trying to use free agency to bring in a player who could “help shut the door in close games” (Newsflash: if you felt Gilbert was terrible at this, why keep sending him out there coach??). Bring in a player who could be an addition to the core group. Even though this trade does not stop them from still adding a quality defenceman in the summer, this move is still bothersome.

It is bothersome because there was no need for this trade to be made on deadline day. Neither team will make the playoffs. Both players are signed long term. This trade has no real impact on the current season for either team. The Oilers could have kept Gilbert and seen what sort of options there were over the summer. Maybe they could find another guy like Gilbert, signed him and made this trade. Or maybe they could find a guy like Schultz and signed him without needing to trade anybody.

What this looks like is the Oilers making personnel decisions with hockey terms that aren’t really all that important. We need grit in our lineup. Sign some goons who play less than 10 minutes per night, that will make the lineup tougher! We need a shutdown defenceman. Quick, look for a guy with next to no points and trade the guy we play the most and in all situations for him. This trade makes it look like the organization is stuck in a time warp and making player decisions based on knowledge from 20 years ago.

Nick Schultz is a good player, but that doesn’t make this a good trade. The Oilers re-arranged the deck chairs on the titanic and broke up the life rafts to make a card table.

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But Schultz is ‘a warrior’, Dawgbone. A WARRIOR, did you hear!? We haven’t had one of those since Big Sexy went crazy and suggested that management were a bunch of pricks who can’t tell their ass from their elbow. What a fool!

by Yeti# on Feb 29, 2012 7:36 AM MST reply actions   2 recs

A warrior… who’s good in the room? We’re on our way now!!

by emberly on Feb 29, 2012 9:07 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

hell i guess he was right!

bring Sheldon Souray back!

by Screaming69 on Feb 29, 2012 11:18 AM MST up reply actions  

A player of Jeff Schultz’s calibre

Did you mean Nick Schultz? (no relation)

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by NGreenberg on Feb 29, 2012 7:48 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

Word only checks spelling, not stupid.

Best thing I’ve heard in a while, also very true.

So the rebuild might actually maybe really end at some point!? No kidding.

by Joe Girth on Feb 29, 2012 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Same here

So the rebuild might actually maybe really end at some point!? No kidding.

by Joe Girth on Feb 29, 2012 12:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe?

“Maybe they could find another guy like Gilbert, signed him and made this trade. "
Maybe they had really targetted Shultz for what he brings and they jumped to step 2 and this summer they will complete step 1? ala Ryan Murray, Reinhart or a trade? Maybe they feel that Klefbom or Maricin will be taking a Gilbert style role? Maybe they like that he’s got family in Alberta and they are paying more attention to these intangibles? Maybe it will all add up in the long term plan? I don’t see it being so bad?

by admiralmark on Feb 29, 2012 9:04 AM MST reply actions  

Maybe they had really targetted Shultz for what he brings and they jumped to step 2 and this summer they will complete step 1?

If you’re building shitty Ikea furniture and you skip a step how does that usually work out? Yeah the Oil might get lucky here but skipping steps is more likely to result in failure than success.

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by ryanbatty on Feb 29, 2012 9:23 AM MST up reply actions  

You want a good example of skipping steps and how it works out? Burke didn’t sign a veteran goalie in Toronto because he wanted to see how Reimer and Gustavsson would do. By the team he realised that they weren’t able to cut it this year the formerly burgeoning market of veteran goalies was now completely shut. Now he gets to go into the market this summer as a desperate buyer instead of a guy that had a young goalie with a really strong half season looking for some insurance.

I’m sure that’ll work great.

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by PPP on Feb 29, 2012 6:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Here’s the thing with a long term plan and the Oilers…

What they set out to do rarely happens. Remember when they were chasing the butterflies that Heatley was farting out? Remember how they basically ignored everything else for a few days while he was signed?

How about letting GlenX go because they were saving money for a player that they never signed?

Making a plan to trade Player X for Player Y today, then turning around and hoping to replace Player X 3-4 months later just doesn’t seem very smart.

First of all, how long until Murray or Reinhart is a top 4 NHL defenceman? The Oilers need legitimate defencemen now. Waiting 2,3,4 years is that much more time this rebuild lasts. That takes you into 2nd contract territory for RNH, Hall and Eberle.

The Oilers signed Hemsky for 2 years. That deal only makes sense if you take advantage of those 2 years to start winning games.

If the Oilers drafted Murray in the summer and he plays his way onto the team in a top 4 role and Petry continues his solid play, maybe then you trade Gilbert for Schultz (or a defenceman of that calibre).

If you want to talk the Detroit model, they don’t trade players they aren’t ready to replace. They don’t trade a guy and hope some kid from the farm will magically jump up and take their spot.

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by dawgbone98 on Feb 29, 2012 12:24 PM MST up reply actions  

What do you mean? Ryan Murray will be in the NHL next season.

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by OilLeak on Feb 29, 2012 1:26 PM MST up reply actions  

A smart team wouldn’t have him in the NHL next season. The Oilers haven’t yet proven to be that smart.

Even if he is there is a big difference between being in the NHL and being able to compete in a top four role. Not many 18 year-old players can do that.

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by ryanbatty on Feb 29, 2012 2:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed, so we’re in agreement then. Ryan Murray will be playing in Edmonton next season if drafted.

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by OilLeak on Feb 29, 2012 5:55 PM MST up reply actions  

When will he be a quality top 4 blueliner though?

Playing in the NHL next year and being a top 4 calibre defencemen are 2 different things.

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by dawgbone98 on Feb 29, 2012 6:52 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

The Oilers re-arranged the deck chairs on the titanic and broke up the life rafts to make a card table.

Your choice of hyperbole is ridiculous. You suggest that the Oilers organization is the Titanic, which suggests that it’s doomed due to incompetent leadership.

As you point out earlier in the article, the work to build a solid farm system is worth a great deal. So, suggesting that the Oilers are incompetent leaders when they are clearly working to address problems in the organization is uncharitable at best.

Re-arranging the chairs suggests that the team didn’t actually make a significant change. Schultz is certainly a defense first defenseman, whereas Gilbert is more of a two way D-man. Regardless of how you value Tom Gilbert vs. Nick Schultz, this trade was certainly more than rearranging deck chairs.

Finally, suggesting that the Oilers are chopping up life boats to build card tables is ludicrous. The Oilers aren’t dealing off Hall Eberle and RNH for draft picks and Wade Redden! They are trading one NHL defenseman for another – one who has a TON of experience practicing and working on “the little things” that help make a player better on the defensive end.

I’m not going to suggest that the Oilers are a lot better off with this trade. But simply panning it because you don’t like it doesn’t make it a bad move for the club.

And it certainly doesn’t make the Oilers the Titanic.

by Permaculture on Feb 29, 2012 9:53 AM MST reply actions  

25th, 19th, 21st, 30th, 30th, 29th

You’re right, I don’t get it, either.

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by Doogie2K on Feb 29, 2012 10:24 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Where do I mail my Vote?

…can we put Lowe on the ballot as well??

by Otiepitotie on Feb 29, 2012 11:49 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Losing your best defenseman for a player type that can be had for free on the UFA market is not a good move.

Good GM’s build equity in their teams. They do deals that make the team appreciably better, which means the cost has to be appropriate. The only defenseman that it would make sense to deal Gilbert for would have to be an upgrade. Gilbert in a package for Myers or Weber would make sense.

This deal shows a management team that clearly does not correctly asses the value of players or how to acquire what they need and make the team better at the same time.

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by FastOil on Feb 29, 2012 12:09 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

As you point out earlier in the article, the work to build a solid farm system is worth a great deal. So, suggesting that the Oilers are incompetent leaders when they are clearly working to address problems in the organization is uncharitable at best.

I think you missed the sarcasm that was dripping off this paragraph:

Think about this. The Oilers rebuild philosophy of "KIDZZZ!!!!" went out and worked. An organizational hole had been filled by an up and coming player that they had developed through their brand new farm system. It’s a joyous day for Oiler fans everywhere when something like this works.

It’s been one player, and the farm system is based mostly off AHL veteran players, not future Oilers.

As for the rest, I addressed most of that. Schultz is a defensive defenceman because that’s his label. Some guys are good enough defensively that they don’t have to contribute offensively, but it doesn’t mean they are required. Being able to break up plays in your zone is great, but so is moving the puck out of your zone. It’s a label the Oilers felt they needed to have, much like their team toughness. It’s a stupid philosophy to use when trading.

So yes, this trade is isn’t rearranging the deck chairs, it’s worse. Nick Schultz is a worse defenceman than Tom Gilbert, so not only do the Oilers have the same problems they already had, they got a bit worse in the process.

You don’t need to trade off Hall, Eberle or RNH to make it a bad trade that ultimately hurts the franchise.

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by dawgbone98 on Feb 29, 2012 12:15 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

ONly way this can be ok is we somehow sign Suter in the off-season

by gangplank on Feb 29, 2012 6:43 PM MST up reply actions  

I’ve said this somewhere before, but I don’t think this deal is as disasterous as some are making it out to be. From the advanced stats, this deal does look like a loss, but it doesn’t look like a bullet to the head kind of loss.

Someone thinks the elements that Schultz brings are more important than the elements that Gilbert brings to the club. I don’t think Schultz is a better player based on what I know, but I do think the defense-first holes are perhaps the biggest current woe of the organization, or perhaps goaltending.

I’m very curious to see how the defense fits together over the next twenty games. I think after then we will be able to better judge if this was a true loss, and perhaps not even until after the summer where we might add in another complementary piece.

Most of the articles I’ve read strongly lament Gilbert and don’t talk very much about the benefits of Schultz, but I thought Jason Gregor did a decent job of being optimistic about the trade, and I respect Gregor’s opinion as much (or more) than anyone else in MSM. If anyone is interested here is the link: http://oilersnation.com/2012/2/28/thoughts-on-the-trade

by dessert1111 on Feb 29, 2012 10:07 AM MST reply actions  

It’s not disastrous but it’s not an improvement, which is why the deal makes no sense. If the Oilers had acquired Schultz (or a similar player) without giving up anyone in the current top 3 at some point prior to next October, then the team is measurably better. A top 4 that includes Schultz, Gilbert, Smid and Petry (assuming his good play continues/improves) isn’t Stanley Cup calibre but is fairly respectable and with decent goaltending and smart coaching, the playoffs aren’t out of the question. Trading Gilbert to get Schultz means you have to replace Gilbert somehow. Whitney may never recover (he’s had a lot of leg and foot injuries so far), Barker is demonstrably below AHL level, and none of the current prospects, nor anyone expected to be picked in this draft, will be able to play to Gilbert’s level for a few years, if at all.

I expect that this move means that Murray or someone similar will be picked at the draft and then rushed into the NHL, getting thrown in the deep end. It’s the “Oilers Way”.

by despisethesun on Feb 29, 2012 11:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Why now? One of the following would make sense:
- Schultz was about to be traded somewhere else: now or never
- Since coming off injury Gilbert has been worse, soon that would start to show in his stats and it would drive his value down

I think the unfortunate part is Gilbert’s weakness is losing his position when pinned in the zone for extended periods. He will either make the Wild look much better by not getting into that position, or (my guess) these situations will occur just as frequently and will amplify his biggest weakness.

I think Shultz will do very well here, but Gilbert will be missed and likely under-appreciated by his old and new fan bases.

by till_horcoff_is_coach on Feb 29, 2012 11:17 AM MST reply actions  

Oh yeah.

I want an Oilers shirt with your article title on it – epic!

by till_horcoff_is_coach on Feb 29, 2012 11:18 AM MST reply actions  

It’s the kind of trade, that when you’re playing a game like EA NHL12 in Season mode, the other GM says something like “I’d be crazy to not make this deal & the fans will be dancing in the streets over this one. Deal!”

I simply don’t understand this trade. I don’t hate it….just don’t grt it.

by painfulloss on Feb 29, 2012 11:50 AM MST reply actions  

Great title DB. Did anyone else watch the Wild vs Kings last night? Gilbert looked okay. I think that team would negatively affect anyone’s performance. The Wild’s defensive zone coverage was laughable (not just Gilbert). Gilbert’s numbers will suffer in Minnesota and people will laud the trade as being fantastic. But it won’t be due to Gilbert’s poor play….the Wild really do suck.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 29, 2012 12:45 PM MST reply actions  

…I watched…the problem was Backstrom, letting in 3 goals on 8 shots in the first..Gilbert didn’t look stellar on Dwight King’s goal (2nd for L.A) but I thought he played ok..top TOI with Justin Falk…and yes the Wild do suck…

by Otiepitotie on Feb 29, 2012 1:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes. Backstrom did have a terrible game, too.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 29, 2012 1:17 PM MST up reply actions  

That and who is the #2 defenceman on Minnesota now?

Kurtis Foster?

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by dawgbone98 on Feb 29, 2012 8:55 PM MST up reply actions  

You realize that with Gilbert gone, the Oilers now have room for Mike Green, potentially, if Washington decides to shake things up.

Brad Stuart, who mostly plays the right side, is a UFA this summer (although LA or San Jose or Anaheim or Vancouver are more likely destinations for Stuart).

They have also created room for Shea Weber.

One cannot be certain that there is no longer term plan. Smid and Schultz are a solid base to anchor a top four with. With two years left on Schultz’s contract, it gives the time necessary to sell the player long term on Edmonton.

The Oilers could have made the determination that Gilbert was likely to bolt after this contract., or that Schultz will be more affordable and a better value and easier to re-sign to a new contract.

The decision could well have been made with the medium term in mind rather than today.

by godot10 on Feb 29, 2012 5:44 PM MST reply actions  

They could have gotten Mike Green/ Shea Weber/ Suter before trading away Gilbert.
Now they ‘need’ to get a d-man like that. So we will again be going to the off-season from a position on weakness than strength

by gangplank on Feb 29, 2012 6:45 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

This is what we get for hiring someone who was passed over TWICE for the head job in Vancouver.

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