Oilers v. Canucks - Titus 1:10-12
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 19, 2012 5:30 PM MST
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PrintThere are many people who rebel against good sense and try to encourage others to do the same. This is especially true of people who cheer for the Canucks. This team needs to fade back into mediocrity for the good of humankind because their success is causing nothing but grief for everyone. Even their leaders are ashamed saying, "Some stupid people did some stupid stuff. It's embarrassing as a citizen of Vancouver." This is nothing but the stone cold truth.
Vancouver Canucks (37-15-6) @ Edmonton Oilers (22-29-6)
Rexall Place, 7:00 p.m. MST
Television: Sportsnet West
More analysis after the jump...
Visiting Team Scouting Report:
I don't spend that much time watching the Vancouver Canucks, so I can't tell you what the problem is, but this is a very good team that's been playing poorly for a while now. Up until Christmas, the Canucks had a Fenwick percentage of 54.3% with the score close at even strength, which was among the best teams in the league, and pretty much what I expected from them coming into the year. But in their first twenty games after Christmas, the Canucks had a Fenwick percentage of just 46.9%, which is really, really bad. Now, it's just twenty games, and that's not exactly a huge sample, but... it's also a quarter of the season. Their record in regulation over that span is a bizarre 6-3-11, but their 7-4 record in OT/SO makes their official record of 13-3-4 look much more dominant. The goaltending has really helped in the middle portion of this season, but if they don't get the rest of the team turned around, the Canucks will have a lot of trouble come playoff-time.
Expected Lineups:
Edmonton Oilers (22-29-6):
Hall - Gagner - Eberle
Paajarvi - Horcoff - Hemsky
Smyth - Belanger - Jones
Eager - Lander - Petrell
Whitney - Gilbert
Smid - Petry
Barker - Sutton
Khabibulin
Vancouver Canucks (37-15-6):
Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Booth
Higgins - Hodgson - Hansen
Malhotra - Lapierre - Bitz
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Edler - Salo
Alberts - Rome
Schneider
By the Numbers:
- The Canucks are taking zone-starts to the extreme. Manny Malhotra, Maxim Lapierre, and Dale Weise have all taken over 80% of their end-zone starts in the defensive zone. Malhotra's split is the most extreme. He has been on the ice for 62 OZ faceoffs during five-on-five play compared to 431 in the DZ.
- That means someone is getting cherry minutes and that someone is the Sedins. Daniel and Henrik Sedin have both had over 75% of their end-zone starts in the offensive zone. For Daniel, that means 392 OZ starts, and just 105 in the DZ.
- The result is another season with both Sedins in the top ten in scoring and in the top twenty in +/-, the same story as last year. Though it doesn't look like either will win the Art Ross or the Hart this time around.
- Cody Hodgson is up to fourth in rookie scoring with 32 points, just three behind Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and six behind leader Adam Henrique. The Calder Trophy race could be very interesting. I could see Nugent-Hopkins winning the thing, but I could also see him getting left off a lot of ballots, especially if he ends up being on the shelf for an extended period of time.
- Question for everybody out there: would you rather have the top three rookies in points or the top three in +/- from this year's crew? The first group is Henrique, Nugent-Hopkins, and Matt Read. The second is Carl Hagelin, Gabriel Landeskog, and Sean Couturier. I'd probably lean toward the latter, and this despite the fact that +/- is a deceptive stat. Fact is, so are points totals, or anything else used in isolation.
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I guess the Oilers need to score four unanswered goals now?
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“Sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 7:25 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Sounds like you started drinking early today.
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That implies I stopped drinking at some point after Friday’s game.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 7:29 PM MST up reply actions
Is Cam Barker a good hockey player yet?
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My experience has been that alcohol poisoning kicks in long before that point.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 7:32 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
Well, given how well that prediction worked out, I’d also like to predict a decisive first-round victory by the Vancouver Canucks and a lengthy contract extension for Tambellini.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 8:58 PM MST up reply actions
This is a bizarre lineup, but whatever.
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Smyth – Horcoff – Jones
Hall – Gagner – Eberle
Paajarvi – Lander – Hemsky
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Defensive breakdown and a goalie wandering around…
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Horcoff line and Smid pairing no where to be found. Quick, write an article about how shitty the teenagers are at playing defense.
Yes! One goal! Wow! You are so right! Whew! Thanks for dropping by!
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http://twitter.com/JohnnieOil/status/171417436044787714
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I didn’t know there were Oilers fans in Minnesota.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 7:18 PM MST up reply actions
This game’s getting ugly in a hurry.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 7:19 PM MST up reply actions
And there we go.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 7:19 PM MST up reply actions
Looks like I got in just in time.
It’s going to be one of those games where it’s awesome we have such good special teams!
Don’t worry. A few more VAN goals, and score effects will start to kick in.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 7:25 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Smart move, 5v5 stats won’t look as horrible then.
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Fluff those stats!
At least someone’s going to get to do that tonight.
Me, I have to run an errand. So long, suckers!
by eddy the lip on Feb 19, 2012 7:34 PM MST up reply actions
The fun thing about the Hall-Gagner-Eberle line is they’d have 800+ SOG for a season at these rates.
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Canucks might end up with 80 shots tonight.
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Skated away holding his arm, I think.
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Slashed pretty good on the short cuff of his left wrist, by the replay.
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So that makes Eberle, Smyth and Belanger who have all coughed the puck up in the neutral zone while the D change behind them. Fun year.
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You’re right. If we could trade Smyth, Horcoff, Smid, Gilbert and Hemsky for more draft picks and prospects, this would be a Stanley Cup team.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 7:46 PM MST up reply actions
Yea, because that’s what I said.
More like they should look at acquiring some veterans who can actually contribute..anything. These guys just get the tough minutes because they’re the least bad option, with emphasis on “least bad” because I wouldn’t want to call them the “best” at anything.
Oh, but don’t worry. There isn’t a team in the league who would trade picks and prospects for Horcoff.
Well, scientists at the prestigious Institute for Stating the Bleeding Obvious have determined that the Oilers are not as good for the Canucks.
Per Stauffer, Gagner’s gone for the night.
That’s not good. Sorry. One good thing… nobody’s going to be asking for him at the trade deadline.
by Whamba on Feb 19, 2012 7:57 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
True enough! Although I think the trade talk surrounding Samwise had died down a bit recently in any case.
Nice win by the Preds tonight!
Thanks! You have our permission to injure as many of the Fish as you want tonight!
by Whamba on Feb 19, 2012 8:04 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Please start with the twins. :-)
by Whamba on Feb 19, 2012 8:06 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
What does it mean that this has become my source of hope for the year?
I like your bright side!
by eddy the lip on Feb 19, 2012 8:38 PM MST up reply actions
Errand over? You haven’t missed much.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 8:38 PM MST up reply actions
I rushed back.
No, I don’t know why either.
by eddy the lip on Feb 19, 2012 8:41 PM MST up reply actions
I know nothing about goaltending, but paddle down and that’s not a goal.
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That was excellent. Makes up for his gaffe on that line change.
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The weird thing is that this game is virtually meaningless for both teams. The Oilers are a lottery team. The Canucks have virtually clinched the division title. And yet we still watch…
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 8:06 PM MST up reply actions
We watch, and do not interfere...
A typical Oilers fan…
by Chunklets on Feb 19, 2012 8:11 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Did anyone catch the intermission? Spector said the Oilers are getting calls on Barker?
Uh-huh.
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If Cam Barker raced Pangea, who would win?
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by Derek Zona on Feb 19, 2012 8:09 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
With the addition of Hal(ibut) Gill, Preds officially have a slower player. :-)
by Whamba on Feb 19, 2012 8:12 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
He did have a good game tonight, even though took our only penalty of the game, up by one, 2 minutes left. He ended at a +2. He’s F’n HUGE!
by Whamba on Feb 19, 2012 8:17 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Also rec’d.
Hell, I’m not really here for the game, it’s my only contribution.
by eddy the lip on Feb 19, 2012 8:39 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe they should check the called ID and make sure it isn’t GM I.P. Freeley.
by TakeoutArtist on Feb 19, 2012 8:10 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
You think Tambo misheard it as “Acamda Huginkiss”?
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Would have to think Danis will be called up for at least one game. Pulled groins don’t heal overnight.
by TakeoutArtist on Feb 19, 2012 8:20 PM MST up reply actions
With everyone watching!?! :-)
by Whamba on Feb 19, 2012 8:18 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Petry got his dump in blocked there. That’s odd.
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Well, that as a pleasant interlude of competent play and so on, but the wheels are back to coming off here.
While you’re here, good luck in the last chunk of the season. I’m really looking forward to Nashville vs St Louis in the first round of the playoffs; should be a great series.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 8:38 PM MST up reply actions
Sadly
that is a likely matchup. We still have our sights set on #1, not #4 or #5. Detroit is overdue for a slump. :-)
by Whamba on Feb 19, 2012 8:50 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Looking at the standings, they’ve probably banked enough points that you can’t catch them. Best case scenario, St Louis catches them and you guys have to deal with the Red Wings in round 1 instead of round 3…
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 8:53 PM MST up reply actions
Was a time I never would have thought of cheering for the Preds, but I really admire what they’ve done lately.
And if they’re up against Detroit…hell, ya.
by eddy the lip on Feb 19, 2012 8:57 PM MST up reply actions
I like the Preds! They’re entertaining to watch, and we usually beat them :-).
The only thing I don’t like is their road uniforms. Hideously bright yellow.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 9:00 PM MST up reply actions
Roads are white. Home Jerseys “gold”. They’re not as bad as the old “baby shit yellow” we used to wear! One thing, you can’t miss a preds fan in the stands! :-)
by Whamba on Feb 19, 2012 9:04 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Do they still ever wear the dark blue unis? Those were pretty sharp-looking, I always thought.
Nil desperandum.
they still call the blue ones the Third Jersey. probably bringing them back next year. sold a TON of em. I have one. The marketing department wanted to solidify the more noticeable gold this year so our presence is seen in other teams arenas. Kinda like the red of Detroit or Chicago.
by Whamba on Feb 19, 2012 9:20 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Ah, you’re right, the yellow ones are the home jerseys. I still don’t like them, but they’re masterpieces compared to these monstrosities.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 9:12 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll see your retro Habs jersey, and raise you a proposed Blues 3rd from the mid-90s...
The best thing that Mike Keenan ever did was refuse to let his team wear those.
Nil desperandum.
Oh, god! My eyes!
I CAN SEE THE FOURTH DIMENSION!
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 9:17 PM MST up reply actions
Chunklets, I owe you. This is now the greatest horror I have seen tonight.
by eddy the lip on Feb 19, 2012 9:18 PM MST up reply actions
True, but Jersey just screams gaudy, it’s amazing!
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Hey, you’re the one that converted me!
But, yes, the do need a good designer.
by eddy the lip on Feb 19, 2012 9:12 PM MST up reply actions
Had the Friday game ended 6 seconds earlier our chances of catching them WOULD have been much better. :-) We’ll see. Thems da breaks.
by Whamba on Feb 19, 2012 8:57 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
God, I hated that book.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 8:34 PM MST up reply actions
Stora Ponny.
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by OilLeak on Feb 19, 2012 8:42 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
The 2012-13 Eskimos?
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 8:50 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
With Hemsky Gone it might be the 2012-13 Oilers.
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Cam Barker won’t be back next year, and there’s no way whoever replaces him can be as bad at passing.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 8:54 PM MST up reply actions
If the Oilers rehire JF Jacques, I’m finding a new team to cheer for. I’m not kidding.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 8:56 PM MST up reply actions
Barker is just keeping the seat warm for Strudwick.
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And you wonder why I drink.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 9:12 PM MST up reply actions
I’ve decided that the moneymart commercials are infinitely worse than the Boston Pizza commercials.
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I don’t know, that Finger Cooking Cook Book commercial is pretty annoying.
by TakeoutArtist on Feb 19, 2012 8:56 PM MST up reply actions
It’s pretty bad, but the Wing Guy commercial was way worse.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 8:57 PM MST up reply actions
Wing Guy needs to be hoisted by his own Bouchelette.
by TakeoutArtist on Feb 19, 2012 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
Certainly in the same league. I did chuckle, once, at wing guy though, and it was pretty much instant rage against he who cooks with his finger.
Nil desperandum.
C’mon he was helping his son with his art project.
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Technically that wasn’t Finger Guy, just random Lazy Dad Guy. Probably the best part of the commercial too. :)
by TakeoutArtist on Feb 19, 2012 9:07 PM MST up reply actions
Hmmnn… Dubnyk is regressing.
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Yeah. Not good at all.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 8:56 PM MST up reply actions
Dubnyk only makes good saves when down by 3 goals.
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Well, this makes it easy for him to be good with us!
by eddy the lip on Feb 19, 2012 9:13 PM MST up reply actions
Put in Khabby for the first 3 goals, then Dubnyk comes in. Success!!!
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For a sufficiently loose definition of the term, yes.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 9:18 PM MST up reply actions
While we’re redefining terms, I would like to redefine “trading for picks.”
by eddy the lip on Feb 19, 2012 9:19 PM MST up reply actions
You mean you don’t like the Oilers’ definition: “getting bent over a negotiating table by the opposing team’s GM”?
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 9:21 PM MST up reply actions
At least we had the mercy of not seeing Luongo in net tonight. I don’t think I’d have even watched the game.
The “Louuuuuuuuuuuuu” chants would drive me away though.
by TakeoutArtist on Feb 19, 2012 9:08 PM MST up reply actions
I hate Bobby Lou-zer most of all!
by Whamba on Feb 19, 2012 9:07 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Not that anyone’s paying attention, but the game is still on. The kids looked alright on that rush.
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Decent effort, bad outcome. Dang.
by Whamba on Feb 19, 2012 9:24 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Well Paajarvi is playing well tonight.
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How is that not a Hand pass?
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It’s only allowed if you do it your defensive zone.
by TakeoutArtist on Feb 19, 2012 9:21 PM MST up reply actions
I found out tonight that if a puck goes in net off your glove instead of stick, even if that glove is wrapped around your stick, the goal is disallowed.
by Whamba on Feb 19, 2012 9:29 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Did the game end? I can overhear commercials now.
Most fun I’ve had in a game day thread not actually watching the game. Cheers!
Yeah, 5-2 final.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 9:26 PM MST up reply actions
Hopefully we can get revenge for you on Tuesday. I’ll be at the game, so no posting. Good night Edmonton!
by Whamba on Feb 19, 2012 9:34 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Cheers.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 9:38 PM MST up reply actions
Dear lord.
I hope you’re doing the post game this time. I expect lots of commercial and jersey comparison.
by eddy the lip on Feb 19, 2012 9:43 PM MST up reply actions
Even if I wrote for the site, I’m pretty sure Derek requires the post-game writers to actually have paid attention to the game.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 9:48 PM MST up reply actions
I’m pretty sure Massey has done a post-game write-up without even watching a minute of a game.
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Woops, wrong Ben :) You’re write up would also be awesome, I’m sure, although Massey’s particular brand of caustic is hard match!
by eddy the lip on Feb 19, 2012 9:57 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, he’s fantastic.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 19, 2012 10:08 PM MST up reply actions
That I can’t tell the difference could be compliment or insult :)
by eddy the lip on Feb 19, 2012 10:24 PM MST up reply actions
It was definitely less despairing until I turned the game on, that’s for sure.
by TakeoutArtist on Feb 19, 2012 9:27 PM MST up reply actions
This is the type of production we will see from Eberle next year when Hemsky is gone.
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Well, yea. There will be consequences of being 1/3rd of the only capable offensive line on the team.
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