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Magnus Pääjärvi - #5 in The Copper & Blue's Top 25 Under 25

Someday in the distant future when Magnus Paajarvi tells his grandchildren about his days playing in the NHL it seems unlikely that this season will be featured prominently in any of his stories. After a solid rookie season with the Oilers, a season where he scored 15 goals and added 19 assists, Paajarvi has struggled to find his scoring touch this season - he scored his first and only goal of the season four days ago - and has as a result been demoted to Oklahoma City in an effort to get his game back on track not once but twice.

This summer when I looked at sophomore slumps I concluded that it was unlikely that each of Paajarvi, Taylor Hall, and Jordan Eberle would improve their point totals this season. And I was right. But as much as I like to be right I can't say that I saw this kind of production drop off coming. If I was to update the chart from this summer Paajarvi would, at his current pace, find himself ahead of only Patrik Berglund. Since I thought Paajarvi was the most likely to see his per game scoring increase, this is more than a little surprising. So what happened?

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Rank Player DOB Drafted Year Ben
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5 Magnus Pääjärvi 1991-04-12
10 2009
6 6 5 5 5 6 5

Previous Rank: 5

With a single goal and only six assists to show for 34 games played this season it goes without saying that Paajarvi has struggled offensively. Those numbers are lower than what even the most pessimistic fan would have predicted for Paajarvi this season but a big reason why his scoring has all but evaporated is simply bad luck. A lot of bad luck. Last week at The Cult of Hockey Jonathan Willis looked at PDO and which Oilers forwards are either benefiting from or being hurt by the percentages this season. For the record, Paajarvi isn't just getting hurt, he's getting killed. As Jonathan says:

For Magnus Paajarvi, the situation is even worse – his on-ice shooting percentage is a miserable 2.40%. That’s the third-worst total for any NHL forward this year, a number that represents nearly a four-fold drop from what it was one year ago. That’s as bad as it gets, and it isn’t going to last. When projecting forward, Ales Hemsky and Magnus Paajarvi’s offense will rebound. We know this with near certainty.

Those numbers were compiled before the game against Detroit last week and since then Paajarvi has had some things go right for him. He finally scored his first goal of the season and has played very well skating alongside Hemsky and Shawn Horcoff. That combination has helped to drive up his numbers slightly but the overall story remains the same: Paajarvi just isn't (at least not so far) getting the bounces to go his way this season.

Paajarvi's struggles this season goes beyond bounces though; situation has played a role as well. This year Paajarvi has played less at both even strength (down 1:40 per game) and on the power play (0:59 per game compared to 1:50 last season). And that ice time has mostly been spent on the third line with Eric Belanger and whoever else happened to be available on that night. Looking at the quality of teammate data available from Behind the Net there is a clear divide between the top half and the bottom half of the Oilers forwards; Paajarvi is in the bottom half and isn't getting the choice line mate assignments on a nightly basis. Less ice time and lower quality teammates isn't often a recipe for success.

So given the circumstances surrounding Paajarvi's season, it's not exactly a surprise that we haven't seen him fall in the ranking this time around. Interestingly, although his overall ranking has remained the same Paajarvi was dropped in the rankings of four of the five returning panelists. The skills are clearly there - the last three games should have served as a reminder for any who were unsure - so even though the results haven't been what we might have hoped for this season we still feel Paajarvi is one of the best Oilers under 25.

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So Derek has Pääjärvi at 5 and Petry at 4, that leaves 3-2-1 for Ganger, Eberle, RNH and Hall.

I’m going to guess you have RNH at the back of that pack and so he would still be your #6, but that means you still see Pääjärvi as better than the Nuge… after the season so far i find that very interesting. (although it’s a rather slow day at work so I’m easily amused)

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by Joe Girth on Feb 16, 2012 3:24 PM MST reply actions  

I think so too

RNH @ 6

I’d be baffled if it isn’t RNH that Derek has at the back of the pack. He was generally getting absolutely slaughtered in Corsi when Renney couldn’t get his preferred match-ups. I think the more interesting question is who he has 2/3. My guess for Derek’s ranking:

Hall – 1
Gagner – 2
Eberle – 3
Petry – 4
Paarjavi – 5

Reasoning for Gagner over Eberle:

Gagner hasn’t had the overall point explosion that Eberle has had from the beginning of the season, but it would be really close if you factor into a few things:
- Eberle has played with any one of Hall, Gagner, RNH at virtually every point this season;
- Eberle has generally been given every chance Rennery can find against the easiest competition;
- Eberle has been a mainstay on the PP;

Contrast that with Gagner who:
- spent much of the early season (while recovering from injury) playing with poorer linemates than Ebs (see Belanger, Jones, Lander, and Eager) which matches up with his struggling stretch
- Gagner has at least seen the existence of tough/2nd tough mathc-ups, and played well in their presence

by Trites on Feb 16, 2012 7:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah I would have to agree with your guess about the 2-3 spot and your reasons. I just find it interesting that it appears like DZ has Paajarvi > RNH after the season we have seen, even when you take into account the heavy sheltering of RNH and the bungling of the whole Paajarvi situation. I don’t think it’s far off I just see a bit of a drop after the top 5 and I see Paajarvi as the best of the rest.

My personal view of the top is this:

Hall – 1
Eberle – 2
Gagner – 3
Petry – 4
RNH – 5

Paarjavi – 6
Klefbom – 7
Omark – 8
Lander – 9
Hartikainen – 10

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by Joe Girth on Feb 17, 2012 9:05 AM MST up reply actions  

A good write-up, Ryan, and it eased some of the worries I have had about MPS over the season. When it was clear that there wasn’t room to shelter him with the other youngsters (deservedly) getting the soft minutes, I think he’d have benefited from being sent down to the AHL earlier and for a consistent period (along with Lander). However, decisive action isn’t exactly a trade mark of the Oilers management.

by Yeti# on Feb 16, 2012 7:12 PM MST reply actions  

Until he gets traded to Columbus for Wisniewski.

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by OilLeak on Feb 16, 2012 8:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m surprised with how little guys like you and Tyler have shat on mgmt. for their handling of Paajarvi. Eberle’s ELC was gonna start no matter what, and I can understand the thinking behind bringing Hall and Nuge in right away (even if I don’t agree with it). But starting PRV’s ELC a year early, and then 16 months later having him down in the AHL…it’s absolutely awful.

by Passive Voice on Feb 17, 2012 12:19 PM MST up reply actions  

How much can we shit on management?

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by Derek Zona on Feb 17, 2012 7:23 PM MST up reply actions  

More, apparently. I know, I’m surprised myself.

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by Doogie2K on Feb 17, 2012 8:07 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

We shall do our best.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 18, 2012 8:09 AM MST up reply actions  

I can’t help but think that our Top 25 under 25 is pretty top heavy and gets weak pretty quick… is there a team in the NHL with a better top 25 under 25? What would an ‘elite’ top 25 under 25 look like or is that what we have?

I think MPS is going to be awesome… however, I’d have a tough time ranking Eberle as he’s so damn good but maybe not the shine of a RNH or Hall.

by Czechboy on Feb 16, 2012 8:59 PM MST reply actions  

A top 25 with 3 possible future superstars, a solid mix of forward and defensive talent, and another incredible prospect on the way in this year’s draft. Sounds pretty good. If management quits f*cking up the development of the prospects (eg. Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson) then the Oilers future is very bright.

MPS is going to be a big key to the future success of the Oilers. He’s big, smart, level-headed, can skate like a motherf*cker, and has won at all levels. The Oilers management has treated MPS like my little kids treat their toys….the newest toy gets all the attention and what was great only two minutes earlier is now forgotten about. Every other team in the NHL would salivate at the chance to have an MPS in their prospect pool.

The Oilers management should be embarrassed by their bungling of Paajarvi-Svensson this season.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 16, 2012 9:38 PM MST up reply actions  

is there a team in the NHL with a better top 25 under 25?

Uh, Pittsburgh has:

Crosby, Letang, Staal, Neal, Despres, Morrow, Bennett

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by Derek Zona on Feb 16, 2012 9:53 PM MST up reply actions  

is there a team in the NHL with a better top 25 under 25?

Chicago has:

Toews, Kane, Frolik, Leddy, Hjalmarsson, Saad

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by Derek Zona on Feb 16, 2012 9:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh yeah. I disagree with everyone who thinks Derek has RNH 6th. Are you all freaking crazy? I’m not on the panel but can tell you all that most will have Hall 1st and RNH 2nd. RNH is a special talent that does not come around very often. His vision is uncanny. He makes plays that most players only dream about. He would have walked away with the Calder trophy had he been healthy — he still might win it.

6th? GTFO.

Also, there is NO WAY that any of the panelists have Gags over Eberle. No way. Not happening. Eberle is a sniper. Led his team in scoring in his rookie season. Leads his team in scoring in his sophomore season. NHL all-star. I don’t have the stats in front of me but I’m guessing he is high on the list in game-tying and game-winning goals. Has a history of playing great in clutch situations. Eberle likely challenged RNH on a lot of lists for #2.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 16, 2012 9:54 PM MST reply actions  

All I will say that at least one of your statements is wrong.

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by dawgbone98 on Feb 17, 2012 7:34 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Just one? Or should I just GTFO?

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by Joe Girth on Feb 17, 2012 8:46 AM MST up reply actions  

You’re new here, aren’t you?

by DarrenV on Feb 17, 2012 10:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Not really. Been reading this site for awhile now.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 17, 2012 9:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha

This was funny – brilliantly crafted satire of your average Jekyll Oiler fan.

Loved it.

by Trites on Feb 17, 2012 4:05 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

New favorite commenter.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 17, 2012 7:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Glad you found the humour in it. Wrote it last night after several drinks.

Seriously though, give a decent rebuttal. What constitutes an ‘average’ Oilers fan? If it is someone who spends 10 hours/week or more (not counting games) following the team, then call me average. What the hell makes you so incredibly knowledgeable?

Where does the Jekyll/Hyde analogy come from anyway? I’m not saying that I love a player, then want him shipped out the next day. I also am a fan of Gagner. But he is not a better prospect than RNH. 75% of the panel agrees with me. Most ‘average’ fans would agree with me, too.

by gvblackhawk on Feb 17, 2012 9:45 PM MST up reply actions  

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