Oilers v. Maple Leafs - 2 Corinthians 4:3-6
by Scott Reynolds on Feb 15, 2012 4:31 PM MST
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PrintIf the rebuild that we preach is hard to get behind, it's only for those who are apt to start cheering for another team anyway. In truth, it's the devil who has blinded those who cannot see that we are doing great things! For whatever reason, they are unable to see the glorious light so clearly present in all of our young phenoms. They can't seem to understand the message that we preach, and the evidence of its veracity in the light of Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, and Eberle, all of whom reflect the glory of God.
We're not preaching about ourselves here. We're not walking around saying that Kevin Lowe and Steve Tambellini are saviors! We're simply preaching that this rebuild is God's plan and that we are his servants. Those who have eyes can see that it's true! For God said, "Let there be light in the midst of darkness," and it is clear that in these, the darkest days of our franchise, God has provided that light in these wonderful young players!
Toronto Maple Leafs (28-23-6) @ Edmonton Oilers (22-28-5)
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More analysis after the jump...
Visiting Team Scouting Report:
The Maple Leafs haven't earned a point since February 6th (when they clobbered the Oilers), and have been outscored 16-5 in the four games they've played since that date. When I wrote about the Leafs on the 6th, I suggested that they were probably had the worst chance to make the playoffs among the four teams vying for the last two playoff spots in the Eastern Conference (the others being Washington, Ottawa, and Florida with one of Washington or Florida qualifying through a Southeast division victory), but that they still had a better than 50% shot at getting in. The team's 1-4 record since I wrote that hasn't done anything to change my mind. The Leafs are still the worst possession team in that group, but it only takes the percentages smiling on them or frowning on one of the others for the Leafs to get in, which really isn't that unlikely.
Expected Lineups:
Edmonton Oilers (22-28-5):
Hall - Gagner - Eberle
Paajarvi - Horcoff - Hemsky
Smyth - Belanger - Jones
Eager - Lander - Petrell
Whitney - Gilbert
Smid - Petry
Barker - Sutton
Khabibulin
Toronto Maple Leafs (28-23-6):
Lupul - Bozak - Kessel
MacArthur - Grabovski - Connolly
Crabb - Lombardi - Kulemin
Boyce - Steckel - Brown
Phaneuf - Schenn
Liles - Franson
Komisarek - Gardiner
Reimer
By the Numbers:
- In Edmonton's last game against the Senators, Shawn Horcoff scored a goal and added two assists for his third three-point night of the season. That's tied for the second-most three-point games in a season during Horcoff's career, but is well back of the 2005-06 season when Horcoff scored three or points in seven different games.
- As we get closer and closer to the end of the season, there's less and less to cheer about since losses probably help the team more than wins. One thing that we have left is the chase for personal records. One man involved in such a chase is Ryan Smyth who's just five power play goals off the franchise record, which is currently help by Wayne Gr... huh... Glenn Anderson. Anderson has 126, Gretzky 125, and Smyth 121. Go Smytty!
- Among players drafted in 2007, Sam Gagner is second in goals (72), assists (137), points (209), and games played (339), behind old junior teammate Patrick Kane in all categories. Of course, if we look at those stats on a per game basis Gagner doesn't do quite as well. Gagner is fourth in points per game (behind Kane, Jamie Benn, and Logan Couture), third in assists per game (behind Kane and Benn), and eighth in goals per game (behind Couture, Kane, Benn, James van Riemdsyk, Max Pacioretty, David Perron, and Carl Hagelin), not too far ahead of Linus Omark who sits in 11th.
- I simply cannot think of what it is about Ben Eager that I like. He's not a very good hockey player, and he's been a lot less crazy than I was expecting too. But he's still taking penalties! So far this season, Eager has received 1.88 penalty minutes per game, compared to 1.98 per game in the three previous seasons. He doesn't even have as many hits (48) as Tom Gilbert (51) for crying out loud!
- Nikolai Khabibulin is getting the start tonight in what I can only hope is an effort to get the man traded. If the Oilers do move him, I'm very comfortable with Yann Danis getting a few starts. Danis leads the AHL in both save percentage (.929) and goals against average (1.94) to go along with a pretty decent larger body of work. Heck, if the Oilers decide to come back with Danis and Dubnyk as their NHL goalies next year, that'll be a substantial improvement on what they started with this season.
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I feel a little odd
being a visitor and the first one here. :-) Anyway.. Hi Edmonton fans, from Smashville! Almost time to set fire to a pile of “leafs”! Oil em up, BURN EM DOWN!
by Whamba on Feb 15, 2012 6:39 PM MST via Android app reply actions 2 recs
We had a chance in this game… until Renney decided to make Sutton-Barker a defensive pairing.
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Surely you’re not implying that Hemsky, Gilbert and our 2012 first round for Nash would be a bad trade?
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 6:55 PM MST up reply actions
CBJ is going to want a LOT more than that… and Nash has veto power over any trade involving himself. Management won’t likely trade him to a west conference team, just to have it bite them in the heiny.
by Whamba on Feb 15, 2012 7:03 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
You should’ve stopped at Nash has veto power…. this trade will never happen because of that. In fact, no player in the NHL with a NTC will end up in Edmonton unless they are Ryan Smyth.
I thought about it, but I believe HE would approve a Nashville trade if it were offered. Mgmt would NEVER allow that… without trades that would make it out of the question for us. Nash has been beaten enough times here to realize it could be good to have those cheers FOR HIM! Still won’t happen. Even Columbus Mgmt knows a trade within conference would be stupid.
by Whamba on Feb 15, 2012 7:26 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
So are you saying that you like Ben Eager and don’t know why? Or that you don’t like Ben Eager, period? The following reasons are why…
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Pretty much that I don’t I like Ben Eager and that I don’t know why because all evidence points toward him being no good.
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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 15, 2012 7:10 PM MST up reply actions
Well, there’s a reason to like him!
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 8:19 PM MST up reply actions
So the Oilers are rested and at home against a team playing the second of back-to-back road games… but we’ve seen the boys fail to show up in this situation a couple of times this season.
I haz a forboding.
Keep the faith!
Leafs been playing worse and Oil been playing better, relatively. :-)
by Whamba on Feb 15, 2012 7:05 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Hooray for optimism! :) It should be an entertaining game in any case – Both these teams have enough power in the offense and enough fragility in the defense that we should see some end-to-end stuff here.
There ya go! Maybe it’s easier to be optimistic from the “outside”. Either that or the combination of the smell of the berry pie baking and Judas Priest on the stereo have me giddy. :-D
by Whamba on Feb 15, 2012 7:16 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Nothing easer than playing well with ZERO pressure on you… Leafs are under a tonne of pressure and under a huge microscope right now… everyone expects the Oilers to suck. Every year there is some total crap team that plays great in the 2nd half because of no pressure. Wasn’t it the Isles last year? Oilers a few years ago? Actually, haven’t the Leafs pulled this trick off as well? This is actually the most positive I’ve been all year that the Oil will actually win.
And we’re off to a great start!
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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 15, 2012 8:13 PM MST up reply actions
Got a question. how many posts does your system show are on this thread? Mine says 12 and I think that’s wrong.
by Whamba on Feb 15, 2012 7:19 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
guess I’m caught up. Seems to take 4-5 tries nowadays to get SBN working.
by Whamba on Feb 15, 2012 7:31 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
Danis is probably better than both NHL goalies.
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Are we at 21ish posts now? I tried to post something less than positive about the B’hawks and now nothing will work right… KINDA LIKE THE B’HAWKS OFFENSE! HAHAHA!
by Whamba on Feb 15, 2012 7:58 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
That was a big win by the Preds last night – good to see them get things back on track a bit!
And the comment count sounds about right.
Hate to keep harping on it, but CHI plays Rangers in NY next. then CBJ. They could end up out of playoff spot within a week if they can’t get it going. Mind you, I’ll laugh… but it CAN happen to ANYONE at any time. Meantime ill feel blessed to watch Preds games and listen to the Oilers games. Having too much trouble with this thing tonight. Enjoy the game. See Y’all next time. I’ll be pulling fer ya!
by Whamba on Feb 15, 2012 8:10 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
As a constant nemesis of the Canucks, I have a hard time hating on the Blackhawks. Though maybe this slump of theirs will mean they can play the Canucks in the first round again! I definitely support that!
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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 15, 2012 8:17 PM MST up reply actions
Could well be. I’d have bet on it at the start of the season. But my confidence in Dubnyk has grown so far this season.
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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 15, 2012 8:14 PM MST up reply actions
you did. bake a pie. puts things right with the world. Gnight all!
by Whamba on Feb 15, 2012 8:13 PM MST via Android app up reply actions
That’s what you deserve when you start the dregs to send a message.
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To be fair, they did send a message. I’m not sure it was the one Renney intended.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 8:13 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, nothing can go wrong by sending out crap.
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Ryan Jones was absolute shit there. Horrible.
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Khabibulin’s in net and Barker’s on the ice.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 8:17 PM MST up reply actions
Alright! Renney put Barker right back out there!
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Who is the worst defenseman in the NHL?
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by OilLeak on Feb 15, 2012 8:20 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Your work is also done. Feel free to get out of the office early today.
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Is there a way to send a urine-o-gram to every single person who said Barker was a good signing?
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You should go cut and paste all the MSM in the past season who said they liked this signing from the get-go, and compare to the bloggers verison.
Just for fun, like.
by DarrenV on Feb 15, 2012 11:35 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I knew that I liked Ben Eager!
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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 15, 2012 8:19 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
Straight up trade for Nash. You heard it here first.
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 8:20 PM MST up reply actions
God almighty, who spiked his Gatorade with adrenaline tonight?
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 8:23 PM MST up reply actions
God, Hemsky is so good.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 8:20 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
“Two goals in two games by Ben Eager, so starting to find that scoring touch”
-Louie Debrusk
Really? Seriously? You are paid 6+ figures per year and THAT is what you bring? Really?
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You can’t be certain that’s not paid out in Crown Royal.
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 8:21 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
His contract requires him to watch 50+ Oilers games per year. Don’t judge the man.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 8:24 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I watch that many games, and my bar tab isn’t…oh. Never mind.
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 8:25 PM MST up reply actions
You can go home for the day. Your work is done here.
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by Derek Zona on Feb 15, 2012 8:26 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Now everyone loves Ben Eager!
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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 15, 2012 8:24 PM MST up reply actions
https://twitter.com/ericshuff/status/169984257710768128
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Best thing I’ve seen on twitter all day.
Of course, I’ve been trolling the Hemsky trade rumours. Dear lord.
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 8:36 PM MST up reply actions
Ohhhh, the bobble on that rush by Hall. He had that far corner lined up when he crossed over and then the terrible ice cost him.
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Make that a pre-saved keystroke because you can use it often.
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Already is.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 8:31 PM MST up reply actions
Oh look – Paajarvi has real linemates like last year and he looks good.
But real NHL forwards don’t mean much.
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Paajarvi is like Hartikainen – they look so much bigger than what they’re listed.
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Watching the Oilers and Leafs play each other, is like stepping into a time machine and watching the two worst teams from 1982 play each other: 5 forwards each, no defencemen on the ice allowed, and the goalies have to pound a bottle of tequilla each time they make a save…
by Trites on Feb 15, 2012 8:36 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
the goalies have to pound a bottle of tequilla each time they make a save…
That’s 2009 in Edmonton
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It really is. Fast-paced, exciting, unpredictable.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 8:37 PM MST up reply actions
For a second I forgot we were a minute behind on PVR. Felt like Cam Barker.
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 8:43 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
Does anyone have a freeze-frame of Barker after the second goal after he fell with that dazed and confused look on his face?
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I know it’s not surprising at this point, but Gilbert and Eberle are really damn good.
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Gilbert must be okay, because Renney is using him in the Dzone exclusively.
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Gilbert in the Dzone, Smid/Petry against Kessel.
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That was an awesome slomo of Hall sliding by Brown.
30 seconds earlier, my screen flashed green. So that may have been CGI’d.
You can’t be entirely sad with that ’stache.
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 8:53 PM MST up reply actions
Don’t know, but I’d be willing to pay an above-market rate for it.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 8:51 PM MST up reply actions
Toronto only up 2 in ES attempts.
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How many d in the Oilers’ org are better than Cam Barker right now?
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no matter the answer, it reflects poorly on tamblowe
by Passive Voice on Feb 15, 2012 8:58 PM MST up reply actions
That’s all the D-men who’ve played in the NHL this year, and one who hasn’t. Who’s the one who hasn’t?
Klefbom?
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 9:04 PM MST up reply actions
Either that, or skating-wtih-a-chair Taylor Fedun
by Trites on Feb 15, 2012 9:06 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I was typing that as your message popped up.
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Well, great minds, etc etc.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 9:08 PM MST up reply actions
Needs more Talking Heads.
I’m thinking Road to Nowhere.
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 9:13 PM MST up reply actions
I know we always give Ryan Jones a hard time for constantly falling down.. but Taylor Hall might log more ass/knees TOI per game than Jones does.
But you need an ass/knees per scoring chance metric to compare.
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Paajarvi looks great playing with Hemsky..
Time to trade Hemsky.
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by Derek Zona on Feb 15, 2012 9:11 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Only if you package him with Gagner and a first round pick. Gotta sweeten the deal.
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 9:14 PM MST up reply actions
I kind of can’t believe that didn’t go in.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 9:18 PM MST up reply actions
Great communication between Hall and Gagner on that one.
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 9:19 PM MST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AsId-qVIb4#t=01m24s
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Sorry. Phone rang right as they scored.
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Leafs just getting chance after chance here. What the hell happened?
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Wasn’t that Barker and Sutton on during that?
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 9:32 PM MST up reply actions
That might be one of my favorite plays of the season.
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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 15, 2012 9:31 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Better or worse than the Leafs second goal?
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Way better.
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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 15, 2012 9:36 PM MST up reply actions
Every time someone talks to me about the expertise of scouts, I’m going to plug my ears and yell CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER CAMBARKER
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by Derek Zona on Feb 15, 2012 9:39 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
The Sun has been speculating that Barker should be easy to move because there’s always a demand for depth defensemen at the deadline.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 9:35 PM MST up reply actions
First time I wished the Sun was taken seriously as a trade paper.
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 9:37 PM MST up reply actions
First time I wished the Sun was taken seriously as atradepaper.
Fixed.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 9:38 PM MST up reply actions
Solid period by the Oilers here. 11-3 SOG, favour of Edmonton, although that probably flatters them a bit.
I think it is time to send Mr. Barker to OKC – his being in the NHL is not helping anybody out. Management could sell it as some sort of unofficial rehab assignment, thus avoiding the dreaded public admission of having screwed up (and he is just coming off a long injury layoff). And hey, if another team decided to take a flyer on him off the waiver wire, well that would be just fine too.
Aren’t the Barons in playoff contention? Keep him as a seventh defenseman in the NHL and cut him loose at the end of the year. With the Oilers solidly out of contention, there’s no more real harm he can do.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 9:57 PM MST up reply actions
Another bottle of beer will fix that.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 10:03 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Two posts now. Time to trade him.
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It’s where he keeps the Iginla homunculus.
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 10:01 PM MST up reply actions
I play better D than Barker does, and I don’t know how to skate.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 10:04 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Stupid of him to try and argue, then. That penalty’s black and white.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 10:06 PM MST up reply actions
Jones looked genuinely incredulous. I haven’t seen the replay, but I’ll be surprised if it didn’t go off Armstrong’s stick.
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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 15, 2012 10:07 PM MST up reply actions
Looks like it may have just ticked Smid on the way by. Still.
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 10:09 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s what Whitney needed. Someone to catch him in the knee.
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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 15, 2012 10:17 PM MST reply actions
good luck – i “leaf” to work
bring Sheldon Souray back!
by Screaming69 on Feb 15, 2012 10:19 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Indeed!
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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 15, 2012 10:28 PM MST up reply actions
That was an amazing shot. Holy moly.
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by Scott Reynolds on Feb 15, 2012 10:23 PM MST reply actions
Hall should have took that to the net rather than turning.
Barker needs to A) shoot the fucking puck, and B) do it quickly
Well drat. I’m glad that the Oilers got something out of this, but there’s no way they deserved fewer than two points. Sigh.
We got out of it without injury. I’ll take it.
by eddy the lip on Feb 15, 2012 10:36 PM MST up reply actions
Unfortunate ending, but a good game.
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by Ben Johnston on Feb 15, 2012 10:36 PM MST up reply actions
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