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(An Attempt at) Making Sense of the Sutton and Potter Signings

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At this point, trying to make sense of the moves made by Steve Tambellini and Oilers' management is pretty much completely useless. I tried to find a witty analogy to insert there, but there really isn't anything I can come up with that strikes me as being as difficult as understanding the processes and conclusions of the Oiler front office.

There doesn't appear to be any logic or discernible analysis they use that anyone paying attention has been able to locate. There are a lot of smart people watching what the Oilers do, and, while not many people are surprised anymore when they do something out of step with what a typical rebuild plan might look like, I think it is fair to say that everyone is still in the dark as to how they possibly arrive at some of the decisions they do.

Case in point...yesterday's announcement of the re-signing of Andy Sutton.

The reaction has been, let's say, less than enthusiastic. Not surprisingly, Tambellini's track record has not inspired a great deal of confidence from the (non-main-stream) media or the fanbase.

It is pretty easy to look at the Oilers' current depth chart for next season on the blueline and question how it will lead to any better results than what we have seen this season. Tom Gilbert, Ladislav Smid, Ryan Whitney, Corey Potter and now Andy Sutton are all signed through the end of next season, and with the likely inclusion of Jeff Petry (and rightfully so), it begins to look like the Oiler blueline is nearly set for the 12/13 season. If this is the case, count me among the pessimists.

Now, if you ask what I think the Oilers ARE doing, I suspect they might be preparing to shuffle a couple of chairs over the summer. Still, nothing that will stop the 12/13 ship from sinking.

But, if we take a few minutes to consider what they COULD be doing, well, you might actually be able to find some logic behind the moves made thus far.

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With Ryan Whitney's bionic ankle a permanent question mark going forward, the two biggest things that have plagued the Oilers blueline this season are the need for a top pairing, all situations, minute eating blueliner, and the lack of sufficient depth to allow them to compensate for the inevitable injuries that occur over the course of a season.

This season, players like Andy Sutton, Theo Peckham, Jeff Petry, Corey Potter and yes, even Cam Barker have been forced into situations where they were playing heavier minutes than their skill and/or experience allows for, and players like Alex Plante, Taylor Chorney and Colten Teubert have had auditions at the NHL level. I think we can all agree that this recipe has not worked.

With that in mind, and the constant drum beat of derision aimed at management team for their previous poor decisions, it makes total sense to jump to the conclusion that the current crop of blueliners will form the core of next year's line-up.

But, what if, for just a minute, we consider what a move like this might mean if it were made by a management team that had the confidence of the people?

What if this is a deal designed to keep NHL-calibre players (albeit borderline ones) on payroll for another year as insurance against injury to Whitney' ankle, or to either of the warriors (Gilbert and Smid)? What if the plan is to have Jeff Petry as your clear #5 on the back end next season, and to have Peckham, Potter and Sutton as your #6, 7 and 8 options in some order, with the understanding that if you lose one to waivers at some point, it's not really the end of the world?

If that were the case, all of a sudden I don't hate the move as much. There would still be absolutely no defense of the gross overpayment of a 37 year old defenseman, but the roster move iteself could be defended. It would push the Marincin/Klefbom/Musil/Teubert/Plante crop of prospects back a bit and make them force their way to the NHL level based on performance instead of need.

Of course, for all of this to be worthwhile, it would also mean that there was one more big shoe to drop, one more move that makes all of these small, suspect moves make sense. One move that in a single moment, improves your Defensive group 1 through 6 by pushing everyone down a notch on the depth chart. By going out and getting that elite level defender, someone like Ryan Suter or Shea Weber as Lowetide mused about Monday evening, the Oilers would push Jeff Petry out of the top two pairings and give the team a legitimate top 4 on the blueline.

A player like Suter (who I'll use an example because he will be on the open market this summer) brings the ability to affect every aspect of the team's blueline. He faces the toughest competition on the Predators and has the second highest On-Ice Corsi among the team's defensemen. He is trusted to start over 54% of his face-offs in his own zone and, quite remarkably, has a PDO over 1020 on the PP, at even strength, AND while short handed. Best of all, he does all this while leading his team in TOI/60 on the PP (2.57 min.), PK (3.91 min.) and is 2nd at even strength (19.13 min.). Overall, Suter is 3rd overall in the NHL in TOI/60 at (26.6 min.).

A signing like that, would allow Tom Gilbert and Ladislav Smid to share the heavy lifting instead of carrying the burden alone, which could only stand to help their long-term durability. It also lessens the quality of competition faced by the rest of the blueline, which should serve to reduce the amount of situations where they are in over their heads.

Now, I have serious doubts that the Oilers will either a) be willing or b) be able to go out and land someone like Suter, but if that is not the plan, then I don't see how the signing of both Potter and Sutton makes any sense.

If going out this summer and landing a top of the line, elite blueliner is part of the plan, then I can at least partially understand what the Oilers have done here, but if it is not (and I doubt it is), then (yet again), I have no idea what the hell Steve Tambellini is doing.

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The only way this makes sense is if Tambo plans to starting making 2 for 1, 3 for 1, or 3 for 2 type trades where they are trading depth for quality.

I have zero faith in Tambo’s ability to pull it off, but Lowe has some history at this. But that’s off-season stuff, I think, so we have a ways to wait.

by gcw_rocks on Feb 14, 2012 9:46 PM MST reply actions  

Your analysis makes sense, except you ignore a simple factor about next year. Can we not go into the free agent market in he offseason, and find an NHL calibre replacement for Sutton for less than $1.5M?

If no, your analysis holds well.
If yes, Sutton deal is horrendus, as is an example of management panicking, overpaying for an asset that can be had for better quality and lower price on the market.

by George Roop on Feb 18, 2012 11:07 AM MST reply actions  

Can we not go into the free agent market in he offseason, and find an NHL calibre replacement for Sutton for less than $1.5M?

It’s a rhetorical question at this point. This off-season, Scott Hannan signed for $1 million, Colin White for $1 million

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by Derek Zona on Feb 18, 2012 11:31 AM MST up reply actions  

As Derek said, that’s a bit of a rhetorical question.

Plus, you should note that I said “There would still be absolutely no defense of the gross overpayment of a 37 year old defenseman, but the roster move iteself could be defended.”

I completely agree that there could likely be better options than Sutton available this summer, and at better prices, but I’m not defending the dollars, simply the addition of a depth defenseman.

Even then, as I said, it only makes sense IF the plan is to go out and get a #1 Dman to push everyone else down the depth chart. If that’s not the plan, then it all seems rather ridiculous, which, sadly, is nothing new.

by Alan Hull on Feb 18, 2012 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Go to capgeek.com and look at the free agent d-men on July 1…a potpourri of spare parts…the Slowe-Tambo team is clueless that’s why they extended a guy that has minimal demand.

Great article lan.

by Oilerfan-atic on Feb 18, 2012 12:49 PM MST up reply actions  

The last three years have been the exact same. Veteran dmen who don’t have a market are left to sign well into July and sign between $800k and $1.2 million.

Remember “”http://www.coppernblue.com/2011/10/6/2468958/oilers-should-sign-anton-stralman" target="new">Sign Anton Stralman"?

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by Derek Zona on Feb 18, 2012 1:04 PM MST up reply actions  

You’re absolutely right. SIgning Sutton for those dollars was a huge miscalculation, but that’s nothing new.

by Alan Hull on Feb 18, 2012 2:38 PM MST up reply actions  

the Oil still have < 14 millions cap space in 2011/12 for another defender and goali.

2012/13 safe 1.3 millions at the buy out section (right now), 925k at Brules space.

bring Sheldon Souray back!

by Screaming69 on Feb 19, 2012 2:53 AM MST up reply actions  

Alan, correct me if I’m wrong, but this isn’t about how much cap space that’s left. It’s about Tambellini’s systematic misunderstanding of the market and his history of overpaying every time he signs a deal.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 19, 2012 7:32 AM MST up reply actions  

Correct, as usual...

Derek, you’re absolutely right. The ONLY way this contract would be defensible would be if they had to over pay to get to the floor like Florida did with Upshall and Jovo. And, since that’s not the case in Edmonton, there is no defense for it. It is a terrible overpayment.

The argument is not about the amount of cap space remaining, simply that this player, at his age, and for the role he plays should and likely could have been signed for significantly less, particularly if he “wanted to be part of what was going on in Edmonton”. Statements like that are typically not indicative of a situation that calls for overpaying a player.

Tambellini just consistently demonstrates that he does not know how to sign value contracts or slot people in proper places in a pay structure.

While Screaming69 has a point in that it likely won’t cause serious issues for the Oilers next season, the problem will get exponentially greater once the chosen ones come off their entry level deals.

He is just a very bad General Manager…period.

by Alan Hull on Feb 19, 2012 9:45 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry for my short vague statement.

What if the (next) GM have a university degree and know what market economy is for? The real basics!

And after he/she should be ex-hockey-player-manager? I think yes, with a 65 million/ year budget. Sorry for my short vague statement. I wanted to make clear that the problem is not over paiment when even the cap space is 14-16 millions. Economists would call it location fee, paid the price of the north has more.
"Under market behavior describes the objectives, strategies, tactics, immediate actions and reactions of individual economic agents in the competitive market.

There are basically three categories of possible behaviors of the suppliers and demanders, each of which can also act as competitors with each other:

  • to act, that is, certain market parameters, price, quality, service, etc. to set and gain a competitive advantage
  • to respond to actions of a competitor (to follow that particular market parameter changes. This is the typical way in a competitive operation)
  • to do nothing (this is almost always economically disadvantageous because be at a disadvantage)."
    But always with the hope to improve on defense and goalkeeper, even if unnecessarily high contracts still remains room for change.
    We can speak also about double marginalized, entertain limited supply monopoly, but that leads us too far.

Tambos amount of the contracts are annoying and unnecessary. Basically, I agree with you.
I’d love to know the future plan of Tambo, in order to review it. If I were the owner I would have already sent my accountants over! Before he become contract extension.

bring Sheldon Souray back!

by Screaming69 on Feb 20, 2012 3:05 AM MST up reply actions  

There's no plan

The trouble is why would any of the top FAs want to go to Edmonton?

There doesn’t seem to be a plan for what is to be done with the defence. We will just continue to draft the best forwards in the hope that somehow that will make us better defensively.

In the game that I’ve watched recently, Potter looked like the best dman. With Sutton, that is a hell of alot of money to pay for a guy who throws a hard albeit illegal check every once in a while.

There are just too many #5 or #6 dmen trying to play a #1 or #2 role.

Without a plan, we will just see more of the same… alot of wonderful offensive potential going to waste because there is insufficient defence to defend and get them the puck.

by Marvellous on Feb 20, 2012 6:51 AM MST reply actions  

while i think we can all agree it wasan overpayment, one potentially positive benefit is that it counters the oilers horrible reputation for negotiating with their own free agents, a rep that peaked with smyth. A more player friendly reputation could help sway some agents and mid-tier free agents in the future.

by gcw_rocks on Feb 20, 2012 10:01 AM MST reply actions  

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