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The Finns are back and they will hurt you. Just look into their eyes.

The Edmonton Oilers have recalled Teemu Hartikainen, Lennart Petrell, and Taylor Chorney from the Oklahoma City Barons to replace Josh Green, Ryan O`Marra, and Colten Teubert who were all demoted after last night's game. It's a move designed to give the whole team a kick in the pants by targeting the players on the margins that you can actually target, but at least in this case there's some chance that the team is marginally better off because of the move.

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It's no secret that the three guys headed to the minors have struggled at the NHL level, but it's not like the guys replacing them have set the world on fire either. Lennart Petrell has been bad enough at even strength that Derek said, "on a healthy Oilers team, Lennart Petrell is unlikely to see the NHL again." Luckily for Petrell (but not for us), the Oilers still aren't healthy, and so his four points in nine AHL games along with his NHL C.V. of solid positional play in his defensive zone and a nice contribution on the PK was enough to get him another chance.

Taylor Chorney is more of the same. He's looked good in the AHL over the last two seasons, but every time he's come up to the NHL, he's been awful. And in this circumstance, he gives the Oilers an extra left-handed defender, which will put someone out of position on the third pairing. At the beginning of the season, that someone was often Theo Peckham, and I can only hope (for his sake as much as anyone else's) that that isn't what we see now.

But Teemu Hartikainen is a different animal. He hasn't shown much improvement offensively at the AHL level so far this season (0.66 points per game this season compared to 0.64 last season), but he does have the third-best Corsi rate on the team so far this year! Obviously, we're talking about a tiny sample (three games for Hartikainen, and because I didn't set a minimum one of the guys ahead of him is Milan Kytnar), but he had a Corsi number in the black last season too (in twelve games), and showed some actual offense to go with it. Out of these six guys, Hartikainen is the only one who's had actual success in the NHL, and my oh my do the Oilers ever need a few more players who can say that.

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The good news for Teemu is that he doesn’t have to score goals to be a great contributing player. The bad news for Teemu is that he plays for the Oilers and will be expected to score more goals.

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by Neal Livingston on Jan 22, 2012 4:39 PM MST via Android app reply actions  

You could’ve ended that sentence after Oilers.

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by Scott Reynolds on Jan 22, 2012 4:47 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s a bit of a curious statement. Could you explain further how “he doesn’t have to score goals to be a great contributing player.” How else would you be a great contributing player, besides assists or drawing penalties. I don’t think they are using him in a PK role here.

by George Roop on Jan 22, 2012 4:56 PM MST up reply actions  

He’s been a guy know for driving play at his stops. He’s a shooter and very good on the boards.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 22, 2012 5:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Teubert hasn’t had success but he’s been better than a few veteran NHLers..

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by Derek Zona on Jan 22, 2012 5:24 PM MST reply actions  

I like Hartikaenan, enjoy his board play, seems solid in front of the net. But if he isn’t a 15-15-30 guy on an 82 game basis, he won’t stick around. I believe for him to a contributing player, he better well put the puck in the net, and hold his own defensively. I don’t buy that he doesn’t have to put up points to stick with the team.

On that note, it sounds like I am sour on him, which is not the case. He is a welcome addition to the team, and hopefully he is given enough even strength ice time to succeed.

by George Roop on Jan 22, 2012 7:59 PM MST reply actions  

He will need to be respectable offensively, but it’s hard to say whether or not 15-15-30 is reasonable because so much depends on the kind of ice time that will be available to him. I expect him to have a hard time finding power play minutes, and there were just 141 forwards who scored at least thirty even strength points last year. Granted, there were a lot of players who came close but didn’t play 82 games (which make their per 82 total higher), but thirty is a tough number to hit if you’re not getting any minutes on the PP, especially if you draw tougher minutes at even strength.

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by Scott Reynolds on Jan 22, 2012 8:51 PM MST up reply actions  

You make a fair point. But can definitely agree on that “He will need to be respectable offensively.” I think if you are brought to a team, and not some sort of specialist (eg. penalty killer, fighter) you better well bring some offense. As if you can’t, there are others available who can bring certain intangibles such as hitting, board play/cycling, etc. I think fans have for too long believed media propeganda in the benfits of certain players who run around, do a lot of hitting, yet generate no offence (eg. JF Jauques, Hordichuk, Peckham, etc).

by George Roop on Jan 23, 2012 5:39 AM MST up reply actions  

@George Roop

It’s about puck possession. If Harti can keep the puck in the O zone on his side, he is at least a valuable player somewhere in the lines. If he can score 20 Pts and break even on scoring chances then he’s golden. He’s big and he’s a Fin, so backing down isn’t likely in his repertoire. There is a big problem right now with the Oilers having difficulty keeping the O zone (defensemen account for a lot of that). Can’t score much with few chances because you’re never there.

The Oilers have a tradition of not favouring new players that don’t score soon. It’s a mistake. A team has to be able to support guys that have the right tool kit and attitude and flush the others to become and stay competitive. With the right mentoring Harti and Pajaarvi could be the class of the league as support players. Neither were drafted to be scorers, and we have a top line developing right now.

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by FastOil on Jan 22, 2012 8:55 PM MST reply actions  

I don’t totally disagree with you, as we are just disagreeing on the level of offence that is required. I think you are arguing the same point, yet through different methods of getting there.

If he puts up 20 points over an 82 game pace, with no PP time, maybe he can stick with team long term as a 4th liner. You also argue he needs to break even in scoring chances. Well yeah, why are you arguing with a point I have already made. I questioned how he could be a great contributor without scoring goals. Clearly he has to generate offence. If he can’t, Oilers can just take a cue from Phoenix, and find NHL calibre players to fill their lineup.

I just hate when people say player ’’ is useful because they run around and hit a lot, and cycle the puck once in while, and then get outchanced at evens, and for some reason are regarded as valuable players.

I think Hartikainen will do fine with the Oilers, or will at least receive an opportunity to do so. But lets just not sugar coat the situation. If he sticks around to play 35 games, and he only puts up 7 or 8 points, he probably won’t be here to start the 2013 season. I am a huge Paajarvi fan, and even though he has one of the best CORSI on the team, he was sent down to the minors. If you want to stick around, you not only have to generate chances, but generate points.

by George Roop on Jan 23, 2012 5:49 AM MST up reply actions  

“I just hate when people say player ’’ is useful because they run around and hit a lot, and cycle the puck once in while, and then get outchanced at evens, and for some reason are regarded as valuable players”. I agree and I certainly didn’t say that.

Every player needs to contribute some offense, but it’s relative to many things if the player is being treated fairly as Scott mentioned. 30 points would be nice from a strong two way third liner who could pressure the other team by being able to hold the puck in the offensive zone. 20 points might be as well and would make him cheaper to retain leaving funds to spend elsewhere. Might need them if the golden three start scoring 80 points each someday, and there will be less need for offense from the bottom six in that case.

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by FastOil on Jan 23, 2012 12:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Sigh. Tupulov is back from injury. Why don’t they sign him and give him a shot and leave Chorney where he belongs, back in the AHL. Tupulov would be hard pressed to do worse than Chorney has at the NHL level and as the size and demeanor to at least have a chance at success.

by gcw_rocks on Jan 23, 2012 6:44 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

I like the idea in theory, but Tulupov & Chorney are completely opposite types of defenders. Tulupov is a heavy hitter, strong skater, but absolutely can’t be trusted to consistently handle the puck. Thus Chorney makes more sense.

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by Neal Livingston on Jan 23, 2012 1:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Defence is weak

I was watching the Oilers over the apast week. No matter how you shuffle it, the defence is just incredibly weak. Teubert could use someone to learn from… a model… and he would develop… but….

I know this will stir it up, but I said so at the time and I still say that the Oilers would have been better off in the long run with trading down and drafting two defencemen rather than RNH. With a more solid defence, the offence would be so much better.

by Marvellous on Jan 23, 2012 7:36 AM MST reply actions  

Really? Not a word from anyone about Yann Danis needing to come up? We need to stop goals from going in. Just look at Khabi’s “performance” this past Saturaday. Since we’re in the mood to give everyone a shot, why not bring up Yann or is that too politically incorrect for Khabi or a confidence killer for Dubey? I wanted so much not to believe all the commentary on this site about the %ages catching up to us after the end of October. But alas, they were right. I let myself love the Oilers again only to be shit on….again. I’m willing to try anything. Nelson for Renney for a week long stint?

by SoCalOil on Jan 23, 2012 1:10 PM MST reply actions  

A week wouldn’t be long enough for Nelson to fix what’s currently broken.

I think most of us are already resigned to the fact that Khabibulin’s position on the team will not be displaced barring a miracle trade.

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 23, 2012 2:30 PM MST up reply actions  

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