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Oilers v. Kings - Mark 6:1-6a

When Tom got home from the road trip, accompanied by his doctors, it was clear that he had been injured. Over the last few years, many fans who watched him were amazed, but others began to talk about him after his arrival:

"How soft is this guy?" they asked. "Wasn't durability supposed to be one of his special talents? And how many games have his miraculous defensive powers helped us to win, anyway? How many times has he led this team to the playoffs?" And so they took great offense at him and were looking forward to finally having a defensive corps with a bit more in the way of truculence.

And so Tom, hearing the jeers in the airport, cried out, "A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown." The crowd looked at him with incredulity. How could someone respond in way that lame and yet that arrogant at the same time? This only encouraged their mockery, and Tom was stunned by their lack of faith.

Los Angeles Kings (22-15-8) @ Edmonton Oilers (16-23-4)

Rexall Place, 6:00 p.m. MST
Television: Sportsnet West

More analysis after the jump...

Star-divide

Visiting Team Scouting Report:

The Kings are a pretty good team this season, and at a guess, the sixth best team in the Western Conference (the top five should be obvious to everyone save the Wild fans who still believe). The start of their season was already pretty disastrous thanks to some awful shooting, but could have been even worse had they not received exceptional goaltending from Jonathan Quick who's currently fifth in the NHL with a .933 save percentage (It's hard to believe that's only good enough for fifth). His back-up, Jonathan Bernier, has really struggled, which is why Derek figures that Quick makes an excellent choice for the Hart trophy after the first half of the season.

Expected Lineups:

Edmonton Oilers (16-23-4):

Hall - Gagner - Hemsky
Smyth - Horcoff - Jones
Paajarvi - Belanger - Lander
Green - O'Marra - Eager

Smid - Petry
Peckham - Potter
Sutton - Teubert

Khabibulin

Los Angeles Kings (22-15-8):

Brown - Kopitar - Williams
Penner - Richards - Stoll
Clifford - Fraser - Hunter
Richardson - Loktionov - Lewis

Scuderi - Doughty
Mitchell - Voynov
Johnson - Greene

Bernier

By the Numbers:

  • Sam Gagner and Ladislav Smid have played on a lot of very bad teams. The result is that both players are near the very bottom of the list in career plus/minus in an Oiler uniform. Smid is eighth-worst with a +/- of -46 and Sam Gagner is fifth-worst with a +/- of -50. The four guys Gagner still has to beat are Scott Thornton (-54), Jason Arnott (-56), Luke Richardson (-64), and Kelly Buchberger (-99).
  • The Kings complained quite a bit about Colin Fraser, but he has yet to (officially) be a healthy scratch since returning to the lineup in November. He only has four points in those thirty games, but he's been a mainstay on the Kings' fourth line and gets the fourth-most ice time per game among Kings' forwards on the penalty kill.
  • The tandem of Nikolai Khabibulin and Devan Dubnyk got lit up again in the Oilers' last game, allowing five goals on twenty-eight shots. It was the seventh time in the last ten games that the Oilers have allowed at least four goals.
  • The guy with the best Corsi number on the team? Teemu Hartikainen at +11.2 per sixty minutes of five-on-five ice time. Obviously a tiny sample, but he had a Corsi number in the black last season too (in twelve games). Now, there's a lot more to player evaluation than a Corsi number (the guy has some things to work on), and some extra time in Oklahoma City isn't going to do him any harm, but moving a clearly overwhelmed Anton Lander out of position while keeping Hartikainen on the farm seems like an odd thing to do.
  • Ben Eager apparently won the fastest skater competition at the Oilers Skills contest. That combined with his size and meanness is exactly why the forward was drafted in the first round of the 2002 entry draft and why five NHL teams that didn't draft him have given him a chance. It raises the question, what exactly is keeping this guy from a consistent spot in someone's top nine?

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Hopefully the Oilers are taking this one game at a time, and not looking forward to the most important game of the year on Tuesday vs Columbus….. :)

by George Roop on Jan 15, 2012 5:17 PM MST reply actions  

Jason Arnott (-56),

That’s amusing.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 5:21 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah… in his non-Oilers career he’s +136.

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by Scott Reynolds on Jan 15, 2012 5:39 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s why it’s amusing. Trade Sam! Trade Jason! Trade Mike!

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 5:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Ben Eager apparently won the fastest skater competition at the Oilers Skills contest.

Theo Peckham won the shootout contest too, which is somewhat unexpected to say the least.

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 5:36 PM MST reply actions  

There’s a reason they don’t call it “getting your show walked”.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 6:10 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

That +/- list is actually a pretty impressive list of Oilers…

by Czechboy on Jan 15, 2012 5:49 PM MST reply actions  

The desire by some Kings fans to boo Ryan Smyth demonstrates why they are the most decadent, incoherent fanbase in the league. Those Californian fair-weather dandies don’t appreciate heart, grit, and dedication when they see it, preferring to angst that not everybody would like to live in a shallow city of blazing summers and pneumatic breasts.

(shifts eyes from side to side)

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 5:56 PM MST reply actions  

I don’t really get it either, it’s not like Smyth was their superstar player or won them (or would have won them) any cups.

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 15, 2012 6:00 PM MST up reply actions  

What the heck was Doughty doing there?

by RiversQ on Jan 15, 2012 6:15 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions  

Making sure his goaltender is awake.

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 15, 2012 6:18 PM MST up reply actions  

The Kings exit the zone like a junior A team

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 6:18 PM MST reply actions  

Objection! Almost every junior “A” game I’ve seen was better than this.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 6:20 PM MST up reply actions  

RE:Eager

Why doesn’t he have a top 9 job? He’s not a good hockey player. The NHL draft efficiency is skewed by all the chances NHL teams give to busted 1st rounders.

by RiversQ on Jan 15, 2012 6:20 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions  

The Oilers are one of the worst at this for sure. Isbister anyone? Barker and Eager are up there too.

by RiversQ on Jan 15, 2012 6:23 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

When do we make that Hemsky for Hickey deal?

by John Chambers on Jan 15, 2012 7:24 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Hickey is ranked too highly in the Kings’ org.

by RiversQ on Jan 15, 2012 7:32 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Oh you’re pretty tight with Lombardi?

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 7:35 PM MST up reply actions  

No, but I know Tambo’s track record. Aim at the floor, hit a foot.

by RiversQ on Jan 15, 2012 8:30 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I suppose my question is why he’s not a good hockey player. Some of the raw skills are obviously there, but the results are just as obviously very poor. It’s something I’ve had trouble pinpointing with Eager. What are the things that he’s just terrible at?

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by Scott Reynolds on Jan 15, 2012 10:48 PM MST up reply actions  

You’ve got to love Jones. he just stands in front while Lander and Horcoff do all of the work around him and feed him the puck.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 6:20 PM MST reply actions  

That was one of Lander’s better shifts there.

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 6:21 PM MST reply actions  

Gagner is yapping away on the bench. He’s not happy about something.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 6:23 PM MST reply actions  

Who’s he yelling at?

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 6:24 PM MST up reply actions  

http://twitter.com/cjbastard/status/158720419044663296

Horcoff might be in the worst 1% of all passers in the league, for accuracy and telegraphing. That’s me being nice.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 6:24 PM MST reply actions  

Josh Green, ladies and gentlemen

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 6:27 PM MST reply actions  

Mr. Green! (First in 5 years in the NHL) And an assist to MPS!

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 6:27 PM MST reply actions  

Not a bad piece of positioning there by Green, obviously, but oh my god did Petry ever track the puck well to make that goal happen.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 6:27 PM MST reply actions  

Almost a 2 goal lead.

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 15, 2012 6:30 PM MST reply actions  

That line causing the opposition difficulties again!

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 6:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Here’s one for you fans of advanced statistics: that’s the first Oilers goal by a guy whose name is pronounced “Green” since December 14, 2006. A low-efficiency name, perhaps?

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 6:30 PM MST reply actions  

Doughty tackles Hall, no call. Doughty tries to run Teubert, ends up on his butt.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 6:30 PM MST reply actions  

Hemsky really stinks. No heart. Just always controls the puck.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 6:31 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Ye gods. It’s like he bought his views on hockey from Damian Cox.

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 6:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Impossible

How could he have seen the play with his head up his own ass?

by Trites on Jan 15, 2012 6:39 PM MST up reply actions  

I was going to say “Colten Teubert manages it” but actually he really doesn’t.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 6:41 PM MST up reply actions  

Alright pkers, do your thing.

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 6:36 PM MST reply actions  

Doughty’s had a terrible period, from the sounds of it.

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 6:41 PM MST reply actions  

Gagner’s line kicked his butt.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 6:43 PM MST up reply actions  

They’re doing a lot of that these days, despite their nongrittiness. :)

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 6:49 PM MST up reply actions  

And lack of caring.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 6:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Well, active defenders have this problem because they’re on the puck so much, but yeah, two serious headscratchers in that period.

by RiversQ on Jan 15, 2012 6:44 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I’ve gotten the impression that the folks in LA aren’t very happy with him this season. The legacy of his holdout maybe?

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 6:50 PM MST up reply actions  

That period was Taylor, Ales, Sam and a bunch of stuff.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 6:43 PM MST reply actions  

The Thumper of Tubs did all right. Nice play by Petry on the goal. Dubnyk didn’t allow any unscreened wristers from the blueline.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 6:44 PM MST up reply actions  

That line had 12 of 23 Corsi events that period. They tilted the ice.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 6:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Remarkable. It’s as if Gagner is actually a good hockey player.. as if he can positively contribute to the team when not saddled with Belanger, Eager, and Jones..

Well, we all know what that means..

“SELL HIM HIGH!”

by Trites on Jan 15, 2012 7:04 PM MST up reply actions  

He’s always been able to produce with good linemates.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 7:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Production aside, the guy has a ton of heart. Hard to find guys who will lay it all on the line for his teammates like Sam does.

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 7:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Not really. The Oilers have a dozen guys that do this.

by RiversQ on Jan 15, 2012 7:31 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

No, not on a consistent basis

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 7:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes absolutely. Gagner is not special in this regard. Getting pounded by Beauchemin accomplished nothing.

by RiversQ on Jan 15, 2012 8:22 PM MST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Disagree. I think the players would disagree with you, too. There is no way that half the team would have the balls to stand in there and get pounded.

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 8:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, Smyth, Horcoff, Hall, Eberle, Hopkins, Paajarvi, Gilbert, Smid, Petry, Sutton, Teubert, Lander – those guys are heartless and lazy.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 8:23 PM MST up reply actions  

is belanger a healthy scratch?

by dessert1111 on Jan 15, 2012 6:45 PM MST reply actions  

not the worst news i’ve heard today

by dessert1111 on Jan 15, 2012 7:04 PM MST up reply actions  

This is why you don’t eat pancakes with your feet.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 7:16 PM MST up reply actions  

is this a penner reference?

by Passive Voice on Jan 15, 2012 10:45 PM MST up reply actions  

The Kings seem a little livlier here.

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 7:02 PM MST reply actions  

Not much going on with this power play.

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 7:07 PM MST reply actions  

Quick is having a good game here.

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 7:10 PM MST reply actions  

The second unit created some good chances there, Quick was a little better.

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 15, 2012 7:11 PM MST reply actions  

Principe creped the bed with that pun.

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 15, 2012 7:21 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

What did he say? (I could use a bad pun about now)

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 7:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Was talking about Penner’s pancake related injury. Finished with saying that Penner could be accused of crepe-ing the bed if the Kings lose tonight.

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 15, 2012 7:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Hemsky is healthy again

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 7:24 PM MST reply actions  

And playing with desire — he looks really good out there.

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 7:26 PM MST up reply actions  

You can tell the difference between desire and injury?

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 7:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Hemsky’s desire disappears when he’s injured.

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I do realize that his injuries have affected his previous performance. And I also know that desire cannot be quantified statistically — it is a subjective measurement. That said, he spent a lot of time pouting because he was not playing top minutes and his pp time was diminished. Now that he is playing on the top line, he looks like a renewed player. I’ve never questioned his ability.

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 8:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Pouting? Based on ?

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 8:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Watching all the games

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 8:27 PM MST up reply actions  

See, we don’t watch the games. We just watch our Excel spreadsheets.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 8:28 PM MST up reply actions  

So you don’t think that Hemsky has ever played without emotion? It’s all injury?

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 8:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Ivan Drago fought without emotion but he was still effective.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 8:35 PM MST up reply actions  

But ended up losing to an emotionally-charged Balboa…

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 8:38 PM MST up reply actions  

i have a column for pouting, but it’s mostly full of “???” right now

by Passive Voice on Jan 15, 2012 10:48 PM MST up reply actions  

You saw him pout? Was it a facial expression? Something he said?

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 8:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes he made reference to his ‘different role’ earlier in the season when asked about playing on the 2nd pp unit.

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 8:35 PM MST up reply actions  

You’re saying a bunch of things, but they aren’t really coming together for you.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 8:50 PM MST up reply actions  

I suppose that is the problem with subjective comments. No stats to back it up. Sorry. I’ll take it all back. Hemsky ALWAYS plays with desire and emotion. The only time he sucks is when he’s injured. He’s been a real veteran leader for the Oilers and it is completely assinine that the fans/bloggers would mention him in any trade rumours.

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 8:54 PM MST up reply actions  

quick is an amazing goalie

by dessert1111 on Jan 15, 2012 7:26 PM MST reply actions  

He’s keeping them in the game

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 7:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Gagner’s line is playing one of the best even strength games I’ve seen an Oilers line play since Penner – Gagner – Hemsky against Columbus.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 7:33 PM MST reply actions  

this game is so exciting i can barely stand it

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 7:34 PM MST reply actions  

It’s been quite entertaining for an Oilers fan so far.

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 15, 2012 7:36 PM MST up reply actions  

It’s entertaining to watch the Oilers with a lead and the advantage in play against a better team, but it’s a pretty sloppy game in both directions.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 7:43 PM MST up reply actions  

This is Kings hockey. They play a sloppy stunted game.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 8:01 PM MST up reply actions  

I wonder what it would take to get Tyler Myers out of Buffalo?

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 15, 2012 7:42 PM MST reply actions  

Nikolai Khabibulin? (Dammit, sorry, I’ve been reading HFBoards again.)

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 7:46 PM MST up reply actions  

I was wondering same thing when they mentioned it on air. However, I do remember hearing plenty of disappointment about Myers over the last year and a half now. If Buffalo were seriously considering trading their former Calder Trophy winner, their “Future” (as he was touted after his rookie year), you’d have to guess that they think they really over-valued him with that 5+ mil deal.

So if Myers is more hype than real, highly unlikely he is worth the cost (both in terms of cap dollars and the acquisition price). Buffalo would probably want to package him with a Roy for a Getzlaf-like return,.. or in Edmonton’s case, a Hall or Eberle.

The last thing we need is a Barker-like, over-hyped Dman who we are stuck paying 5.7 million for 5 years..

by Trites on Jan 15, 2012 8:00 PM MST up reply actions  

D-men take time to develop and Myers is still young. If Buffalo is giving up on him this soon because of a “win now” owner, then the Oilers should take a run. Myers development curve coincides nicely with Hall, Hopkins and Eberle. He would be work the risk.

by gcw_rocks on Jan 15, 2012 9:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Very silly play there, Mr. O’Marra.

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 7:51 PM MST reply actions  

FIRST JOSH NOW THIS

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 7:57 PM MST up reply actions  

We’re through the looking glass here, folks…

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 7:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice turnover. Time to trade Horcoff.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 8:00 PM MST reply actions  

Doesn’t matter, trade horcoff.

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Why would that make a difference in trading Horcoff?

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 15, 2012 8:02 PM MST up reply actions  

Horcoff’s job is to be a leader and a captain. He failed. Also, maybe if Hemsky wasn’t always first off the ice at practice it would still be 1-0.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 8:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Horcoff fails as captain, because he is incapable of making an AHL caliber team play NHL hockey.

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:07 PM MST up reply actions  

It takes twenty players to make a team. And those players are led by a captain. And that captain has failed.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 8:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Do you place more importance on the captain or the coach to lead the team?

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 8:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Which one can I trade?

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 8:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Not sure why Petry had to pass that up to Jones once entering the O zone when he had the time and space to make a better play. Chalk it up to inexperience?

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 15, 2012 8:05 PM MST reply actions  

Half expected Williams to bury that one top corner.

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 15, 2012 8:07 PM MST reply actions  

A classic ill-timed Peckham pinch

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 8:11 PM MST reply actions  

Well this is a automatic goal

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:13 PM MST reply actions  

Smid in the box with less than 4 minutes left, can you say soul crushing defeat?

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Yup, this has “heartbreak” written all over it.

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 8:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Was just about to say the game isn’t complete until the 4th line takes a shift with 5 minutes remaining. Then Smid takes a penalty.

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 15, 2012 8:14 PM MST reply actions  

Yes a poor coaching move. Have you read Cloutier’s (hockeybuzz) article claiming inside sources which state that Oilers will not renew Renney’s contract this summer?

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 8:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Well if it’s on hockeybuzz it must be true.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 8:17 PM MST up reply actions  

No doubt. You have to take that one with a grain of salt. Cloutier is not as bad a Eklund who blatantly makes stuff up

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 8:18 PM MST up reply actions  

They’ve had multiple shifts since the 12 minute mark. He’s horrible.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 8:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Hey look. tie game, Renney puts the fourth line on.

What the hell is his problem?

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 8:17 PM MST reply actions  

Worst-case scenario, he gets fired and doesn’t have to watch the Oilers anymore.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 8:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Maybe that’s his plan.

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:19 PM MST up reply actions  

We obviously need that extra shot energy to get the game winner.

by Trites on Jan 15, 2012 8:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Everyone is inspired by hard work when the puck is pinned in behind them for minutes on end.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 8:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Penned was too busy eating pancakes to hit that open net.

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:17 PM MST reply actions  

Penner

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:18 PM MST up reply actions  

Pencakes.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 8:20 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Wow. Tonight’s overtime is brought to you by Jonathan Quick.

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 8:20 PM MST reply actions  

I want the October Tom Renney back – the one who actually made sensible, even astute, use of his lines.

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 8:25 PM MST up reply actions  

I think he knows he’s going to be the escape goat and is just screwing with Oilers fans now.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 8:29 PM MST up reply actions  

You talking about the same guy who hard-matched Horcoff against Kopitar and set Gagner et al loose against Richardson, Lewis & Loktionov all night?

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 15, 2012 10:35 PM MST up reply actions  

And put Eager and Hordichuk out with 5 minutes to go. Tie game, 4th line, again.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 10:37 PM MST up reply actions  

yeah, I saw that too. Doesn’t make 100.0% of everything he did all night wrong.

Funny, I never saw a word in here about the favourable match-ups Hall-Gagner-Hemsky were getting, it was all about how great they were playing.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 15, 2012 10:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Mostly because Gagner drew Doughty and Scuderi for most of the night. Horcoff took the forwards, but Gagner got the defenders.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 10:44 PM MST up reply actions  

That is what I cannot understand. Renney was matching lines like a madman at the start of the season, and it was yielding results (at home anyway).. but then 2 months in, as the losses started to pile up, he quit.

Two ideas spring to my mind:
a) it was collectively decided to go back to last year, challenge the kids, ease off the vets, and grab another high draft pick; or,
b) Renney grew so frustrated as his GM refused to provide him with a 3rd NHL dman, that he figured he would cut his losses, escape the Hell of coaching an AHL team in the NHL, and hopefully take the GM down him.

by Trites on Jan 15, 2012 8:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Hemsky and Gagner are fire. Get rid of them now!

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:25 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Absolutely amazing effort by Horcoff on that power play.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 8:26 PM MST reply actions  

That was a heck of a pass.

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 15, 2012 8:27 PM MST up reply actions  

You’re destroying the narrative.

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I can’t help it sometimes. That was silly good.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 8:30 PM MST up reply actions  

But, Horcoff is where the play goes to die!

It was pure luck that Hall was there to fix Horcoff’s blunder.. the captain is so lost in the offensive zone, his backhand was going 90 degrees away from the net.

by Trites on Jan 15, 2012 8:53 PM MST up reply actions  

It wasn’t perfect by any means, but the Oilers deserved the win tonight. They were a million miles better than they were on Friday.

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 8:29 PM MST reply actions  

So on Friday they were -500,000 miles?

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 8:31 PM MST up reply actions  

That may be a kind estimate…

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 8:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Of course this will make it all the more painful when we lose to Columbus on Tuesday.

by TakeoutArtist on Jan 15, 2012 8:40 PM MST up reply actions  

True, but for now, we can bask! :)

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 8:46 PM MST up reply actions  

Dear Lord the Kings must hav problems, no credible playoff team should lose to the Oilers.

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:32 PM MST reply actions  

The Kings, Wild and Coyotes are trying to OTL their way into the playoffs.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 8:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Well to be fair that was before the Oilers decided to take a trip to the bottom of the Marianas Trench.

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:39 PM MST up reply actions  


“Hey what’s Darcy Hordichuk doing down here?”

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 8:48 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Rec’d. It’s a perfect likeness!

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 15, 2012 10:36 PM MST up reply actions  

The Hall-Gagner-Hemsky line was amazing.

I’m still shocked at how good they were tonight.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 8:32 PM MST reply actions  

I’d love to see them left together for the rest of the season. Heck, I’d love to see them playing together for the next 3 or 4 seasons…

by Chunklets on Jan 15, 2012 8:35 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Recd

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Did the twitter world see Hemsky take 4 shot opportunities in that OT? Does that not contradict the “Hemsky never shoots” narrative?

… “No”, you say? Why, here I thought “I JUST WATCH THE GAMES!” was the motto of the world of the twits.

by Trites on Jan 15, 2012 8:43 PM MST reply actions  

All I saw was Hall showing Hemsky how to play hockey.

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Don’t say anything bad about Hemsky on here…you will be skewered. Get your blinders on!!

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 8:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Not sure if serious…

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by OilLeak on Jan 15, 2012 8:55 PM MST up reply actions  

I like Ales Hemsky. But there are several people on here who will not stand for any criticism of his play. They think it is Hemsky-bashing. I’m definitely not a Hemsky-basher but am not afraid to call him out when his play is lackluster.

by gvblackhawk on Jan 15, 2012 9:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Did the twitter world see Hemsky take 4 shot opportunities in that OT? Does that not contradict the "Hemsky never shoots" narrative?

Nope, it supports the “Hemsky should shoot more often” narrative.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 15, 2012 10:38 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

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