Mailbag: We're Wrong, The Rebuild Doesn't Go Deep Enough

by Derek Zona on Jan 14, 2012 4:30 PM MST in Miscellaneous

I don't typically publish the hatemail I get because most of it is poorly written and not funny. This one however, struck me as worthy of notoriety and careful public scrutiny. Presented without comment, from Cam in Edmonton:

Zona all you ever do is chrip people on twitter. You think you are so smart but are an idiot. But I do agree with you that Tamby should be fired not for the reason you think he should be fired because he isn't going far enough in this redbuild. If the Oilers want to be the 2nd dynasty and be truely great they have to truely suck first. They need to finish last again and get at least another 1st OV. Tamby needs to get rid of all of this vets that suck and let the kids play. He needs to get more kids that want to be Oilers like RNH and Ebs. But he won't because of people like you.

I would replace him with someone ballsy enough to willing to trade Hemsky and Smyth to the Pens for their 1st OV and Joe Morrow. He is he prefect guy to spring Hallsy. I would trade Gagner and Gilbert to the SUCKS for Corey Schnieder and let him learn from bulin. I would waive Shawn Horcoff because he sucks. They can trade the 1st OV to Nashville for Shea Weber and still have a 1st. Then they have a PMD and tough guy for each pair. Morrow and Weber with Smid and Barker and Teubert and Peckham. Campbell will be ready next year. All they have to do is sign a sniper like Semin and then they can bring up the rest of the kids to play with RNH Ebs and Hallsy.

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How delusional, he has Barker playing in the NHL.

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by CoolJ90 on Jan 14, 2012 4:43 PM MST reply actions 1 recs

But he won’t because of people like you.

If only Derek really had this kind of pull with Tamby.

by BigB_09 on Jan 14, 2012 4:44 PM MST reply actions

What's Cory going to learn from Bulin?

How to drink?

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jan 14, 2012 4:45 PM MST reply actions

and

how to do so while driving

by sodonis on Jan 14, 2012 4:46 PM MST up reply actions

how to drink in public of course.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jan 14, 2012 4:55 PM MST up reply actions

Oh..

..and here I thought hatemails belonged to the late 90’s.

by dohfOs on Jan 14, 2012 4:50 PM MST reply actions

So….the plan is to move the Oilers to the WHL next season then?

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by George E. Ays on Jan 14, 2012 4:51 PM MST reply actions 1 recs

BAM, (Memorial) CUP!

"Playin hurt, baby that don't faze me. I don't got time for pain. The only pain I've got time for is the pain I put on fools who don't know what time it is!"

by Semi_Colon on Jan 14, 2012 4:52 PM MST up reply actions

Wow.

This… this is a thing of beauty.

Cam in Edmonton, whoever you are, I salute you, sir.

by humantorch on Jan 14, 2012 4:55 PM MST reply actions

Tyler always wants me to post full names, but I’m always afraid it’s an little kid sending these things.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 14, 2012 9:45 PM MST up reply actions

While I disagree with Tyler on a handful of issues, accountability is awesome.

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by chappy35 on Jan 15, 2012 2:02 AM MST up reply actions

I love the spelling, grammar and preposterous trades.

by RiversQ on Jan 14, 2012 4:58 PM MST via iPhone app reply actions

There’s a real issue with everyone now writing with IM and textspeak. I honestly have no idea if this person is 15 or 35. I’m usually stunned when I get a well-written hatemail.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 14, 2012 9:47 PM MST up reply actions

Absolutely, this

Then I feel a sliver of guilt for thinking someone is 12 or insane just because they write like either a 12-year-old or an insane person.

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by Dominik on Jan 14, 2012 11:28 PM MST up reply actions

To be fair though, I get emails from people around the league that are written just as poorly as the one above.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 12:17 AM MST up reply actions

Where'd you guys find

SteveTambellini’s cover letter?

by Wisp on Jan 14, 2012 5:00 PM MST reply actions

It does beg the question… exactly how much hatemail does Zona get…

I`d trade our first for Weber too if he were signed to a longer term contract… not sure Nashville would though.

Gagner and Khabi for Schneider, no problem.

Not sure how we sign Semin when his contact doesn`t expire till 2017 (this is a guess). Also, why get rid of Hemsky and sign Semin for twice as much… the difference between Hemsky and Semin is that Hemsky has heart and gets paid half as much.

by Czechboy on Jan 14, 2012 5:15 PM MST reply actions

You have to make changes if you’re going to progress! Change is therefore the same as progress. So twirl, twirl you magnificent creature!

And that’s how trading Hemsky for Semin brings you the cup.

by eddy the lip on Jan 14, 2012 5:34 PM MST up reply actions

Problem: Gillis won’t do Gagner and Khabi for Schneider. No chance.

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by Vancouverguy on Jan 14, 2012 5:46 PM MST up reply actions

I couldn’t agree more.. he’d be a moron to do that.

by Czechboy on Jan 14, 2012 11:14 PM MST up reply actions

Semin

Is a UFA this July

Laich is a UFA in 2017.

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by CoolJ90 on Jan 14, 2012 8:42 PM MST up reply actions

I thought he was on a long term contract…my bad. Signing him wouldn’t be a bad idea… I’m sure he’d love to come to Edmonton for a reasonable contract and sum and put in a great effort every night.lol

by Czechboy on Jan 14, 2012 11:15 PM MST up reply actions

It does beg the question… exactly how much hatemail does Zona get…

3-4 a week.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 14, 2012 9:46 PM MST up reply actions

How many of those are from Tambo’s mom?

by DarrenV on Jan 14, 2012 10:29 PM MST up reply actions

I hate that you don’t publish them all.

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by PPP on Jan 15, 2012 10:51 AM MST up reply actions

Volume is way up since I started doing power rankings for the hub page.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 15, 2012 11:12 AM MST up reply actions

This letter gives me great hope.

We could do worse than Tambo.

by eddy the lip on Jan 14, 2012 5:35 PM MST reply actions 2 recs

“Then they have a play-making defenseman and tough guy for each pair”. He then lists Peckham and Teubert as one of his pairings! And he’s calling someone else an idiot? That’s rich.

by gvblackhawk on Jan 14, 2012 5:36 PM MST reply actions

From Cam? In Edmonton?

…could his last name be… Barker…? At this point, who else could be penciling in Mr. Barker for a top 4 D role on any NHL team?

by Trites on Jan 14, 2012 6:28 PM MST reply actions

Has to be Barker, he’s bored and he’s been reading the Oilers blogs while injured. Also, Peckham/Teubert? THe OIlers are running that now, working great so far.

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by OilLeak on Jan 14, 2012 7:13 PM MST up reply actions

Judging by the response, Tyler was right, I need to print more of these.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 14, 2012 9:48 PM MST reply actions

What do you ‘spose Cam would give me for a full team of rec leaguers who haven’t won a game in three months?

by CapnNoBeard on Jan 14, 2012 10:02 PM MST reply actions

Ovechkin

by Wisp on Jan 15, 2012 3:39 AM MST up reply actions

Which brings me to my second point, kids. Don’t do crack.

by Geeezeus on Jan 15, 2012 8:11 AM MST reply actions

Thanks for changing my name on this e-mail to “Cam”, Derek.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 15, 2012 11:23 AM MST reply actions

Yeah Derek. Can’t you see that the Islanders have the NHL right where they want them? After a decade of sucking they’re about to spring their trap. Edmonton just needs to emulate that path to success while Oilers fans just need to have a sufficiently long view to understand the genius at work here.

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by Kent Wilson on Jan 15, 2012 11:40 AM MST reply actions

Trying to figure out what Cam in Edmonton's team would look like

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FORWARDS
Alexander Semin ($5.000m) / Ryan Nugent-Hopkins ($3.775m) / Teemu Hartikainen ($0.875m)
Taylor Hall ($3.750m) / Tyler Pitlick ($0.900m) / Jordan Eberle ($1.158m)
Ryan Jones ($1.500m) / Eric Belanger ($1.750m) / Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson ($1.525m)
Curtis Hamilton ($0.900m) / Anton Lander ($0.900m) / Ryan Martindale ($0.690m)
/ Chris Vande Velde ($0.850m) / Ben Eager ($1.100m)

DEFENSEMEN
Joe Morrow ($0.925m) / Shea Weber ($7.000m)
Ladislav Smid ($2.250m) / Cam Barker ($2.000m)
Colten Teubert ($0.916m) / Theo Peckham ($1.200m)
/ Corey Potter ($0.775m)

GOALTENDERS
Nikolai Khabibulin ($3.750m) / Cory Schneider ($2.000m)

BUYOUTS: Sheldon Souray ($1.500m)

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(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $46,989,999; BONUSES: $6,822,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $17,310,001

I guess Horcoff and Whitney are disappeared? Also, this is not a good team.

by Passive Voice on Jan 15, 2012 1:28 PM MST reply actions

And I gripe about the fourth line today.

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by chappy35 on Jan 15, 2012 1:46 PM MST up reply actions

that’s a ton of extra cap space though

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by exsanguinator on Jan 15, 2012 6:42 PM MST up reply actions

I like the idea of trading Hemsky and getting Semin…

Sweet fuck, if you hate how Hemsky plays Semin will drive you absolutely bonkers.

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by dawgbone98 on Jan 16, 2012 8:30 AM MST reply actions 1 recs

Yeah, but he’s a great fighter.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 16, 2012 10:18 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs

No kidding. I never seen Hemmer scrap like that before.

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by Doogie2K on Jan 16, 2012 2:45 PM MST up reply actions

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