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Eberle Leads The Oilers Past The Flames, Again

Tonight the Oilers traveled to Calgary to take on their provincial rivals for the second time in as many nights. In the first half of the weekend home and home, the Oilers, thanks to a late goal from Taylor Hall, came away victorious. Tonight Hall was given the night off but fellow sophomore Jordan Eberle lead the way as the Oilers again topped the Flames, this time by a score of 3-0. Yes it's just the preseason and we all know these games don't really mean anything but lets be honest, it's always fun to beat Calgary.

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The game got of to a bit of a slow start for both teams. Plenty of missed passes and neutral zone turnovers kept the flow to a minimum throughout most of the first period. The Flames outshot the Oilers by an 8-6 margin but the Oilers did have two good scoring chances in the first period, both the result of Flames turnovers near their blueline. Gilbert Brule and Eberle were the benefactors of these turnovers but neither could beat Henrik Karlsson as they shot high to Karlsson's glove side looking for the games first goal.

In the second period Shawn Horcoff would break the scoreless tie by jumping on a Linus Omark rebound, getting just enough of the puck to get it across the goal line, just out of the reach of Karlsson. While Horcoff gets credit for the goal, it was a heads up play from Omark that made it happen. As Omark came to the blueline he realized he wouldn't be able to carry the puck into the zone so he fired it on net and charged hard for the rebound beating the Flames defender and kicking the puck back on net allowing Horcoff to bang in the rebound. A strong play from Omark who has been taking some heat for his play in the preseason so far.

Ten minutes later Omark would extend the Oilers lead by burying the puck into an open net after getting a great cross ice feed from Eberle. But as good as the pass from Eberle was, it was Taylor Fedun that made the goal happen. After getting the puck at the point from Horcoff, Fedun has his head up and rather than blast away he quickly moves the puck down to Ebelre. Miikka Kiprusoff overplays the puck and Omark is left with a wide open net when Eberle hits him right on the tape. Quick puck movement on the powerplay, it's amazing what it can do.

The Oilers powerplay would strike again before the second period ended, this time as Eberle walked into the slot and wired a shot over Kiprusoff's blocker. The shot, just inside the post, was better than his pass to Omark but it was the play before the shot, again a pass from Fedun that makes the goal happen. Fedun falls after making the pass which takes away from the play somewhat but it's nonetheless a great cross ice pass that he makes very quickly, catching a couple of Flames defenders moving the wrong way and giving Eberle plenty of open ice allowing him to move into the slot for the goal.

The second period is where the Oilers took control of the game but it was also when Devan Dubnyk really earned his keep. Half of Dubnyk's 30 saves came during the second period. When the Flames came on strong late in the third period looking to breakup the shutout, Dubnyk held his ground and kept the Flames off the scoreboard. Dubnyk made a number of tough saves and looked very solid throughout the game, he was certainly deserving of the games first star.


News and notes:

  • Corey Potter lead all Oilers with 24:19 of ice time, including a team high 4:38 on the powerplay. Clearly the Oilers wanted to see if Potter could handle that kind of ice time and I think he did very well. He took a hooking penalty in the first period when he stopped moving his feet and got caught a little out of position. But aside from that I felt he played a very strong game.
  • A night after playing an excellent game, Teemu Hartikainen fell a bit flat tonight. It goes without saying that playing alongside Philippe Cornet and Ryan O'Marra is a little different than Hall and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins but Hartikainen didn't seem to be able to get moving and do what had made him successful just 24 hours earlier. In the third period he did pick his game up a little but I'm still betting that the coaches had hoped for a stronger performance.
  • Theo Peckham played for the fourth time in the preseason. Although the Oilers have played five games, the first two were split squad games meaning Peckham has dressed every night. I'm not sure if there is anything that should be read into this but I find it interesting. It's possible the Oilers weren't thrilled with his conditioning and wanted to make sure he was in game shape for the start of the season, or perhaps he's just drawn in more because Whitney is unavailable.
  • Speaking of injuries, the Oilers announced tonight through Twitter that Sam Gagner will have an MRI tomorrow to assess the injury he suffered Saturday night when he crashed into the end boards. From Joanne Ireland, the initial report from the medical staff is that there wasn't a break in his ankle which is without a doubt good news.
  • And with Barons camp set to open in the morning the Oilers will likely be making more roster cuts tomorrow. Following the game, Joanne Ireland tweeted that there could be as many as eight players cut tomorrow. Get your guesses in now as to who the eight will be.

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[Potter] played a very strong game.

I agree. Thought that he was very steady and calm with the puck. Very mobile too. I’d trust him and Fedun over Barker in a heartbeat. (Then again, I’m biased in hoping for Barker’s failure so Tambo doesn’t offer him another contract.)

And yes, Plante is as awful as on TV. You don’t see him much on TV because he’s too slow to catch up to the puck. Skates slower than me with clumsy passing/ shooting skills.

CnB will be happy to know that two Oiler fans behind me referred to Hartikainen as “some Swedish guy” and that “he’s one of those Swedes who comes up to play for preseasons… Can’t wait when more of the Canadians are on.”

by OilPen on Sep 25, 2011 10:42 PM MDT reply actions  

CnB will be happy to know that two Oiler fans behind me referred to Hartikainen as "some Swedish guy" and that "he’s one of those Swedes who comes up to play for preseasons… Can’t wait when more of the Canadians are on."

Doesn’t really surprise me.

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by Derek Zona on Sep 25, 2011 11:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Me neither. Europeans aren’t clutch, not like good Canadian boys.

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by ryanbatty on Sep 26, 2011 9:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

You hope Barker is bad so he doesnt get a contract? That makes no sense, how about you hope he develops into a top 4 dman gets a good contract and then thats one less problem we have to worry about.

Thats like saying you hope Hall Eberle and Paajarvi have bad years so they don’t make much money…cmon sir haha

by Tanman37 on Sep 26, 2011 12:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

You hope Barker is bad so he doesnt get a contract? That makes no sense, how about you hope he develops into a top 4 dman gets a good contract and then thats one less problem we have to worry about.

I read that as “I hope he doesn’t play well because Tambellini is the guy who would offer him 5 years, $22.5 million based on one good year”

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by Derek Zona on Sep 26, 2011 5:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

That comment is pure gold.

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by ryanbatty on Sep 26, 2011 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

I respect your opinion that players like him can develop, but..

http://www.coppernblue.com/2011/6/30/2253608/to-sum-up-he-is-terrible-positionally-he-looks-to-have-cinder-blocks

… thus far I’ve seen no evidence to the contrary.

And no. I hope the 3 sophomores tear it up in the next two.

by OilPen on Sep 26, 2011 8:17 AM MDT up reply actions  

Re: Harski comments. Yes. Yes. I know.

by OilPen on Sep 25, 2011 10:46 PM MDT reply actions  

My guesses...

Forwards: Cornet, Green, Hamilton, House, Keller, Kytnar
Defense: Plante, Marincin

A posse ad esse.

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by Jonathan Willis on Sep 25, 2011 11:39 PM MDT reply actions  

Though it wouldn’t surprise me to see Pitlick sent out either.

by Jonathan Willis on Sep 25, 2011 11:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

pitlick will ultimately go, but they’ll slot him into at least one more game i’d think just for developmental reasons, one game will serve him more than it would green or keller

by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Sep 25, 2011 11:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Oil Kings play the Tigers Friday and Saturday, any chance the Oilers keep Pitlick around for a while just to weaken the Tigers?

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by ryanbatty on Sep 26, 2011 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

Pitlick is going to the Ahl no?

Have you seen my bear Tibbers?

by SumOil on Sep 26, 2011 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

He could but I’d rather return him to Medicine Hat

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by ryanbatty on Sep 26, 2011 9:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Why? I’m not sure why there’s been this upsurge of sentiment on the Oiler blogs to send players like Martindale and Pitlick back for overage seasons in junior. No one else in the NHL does this with prospects they’re sure to sign. What evidence is there of it being of utility?

by Double DD on Sep 26, 2011 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

dont worry both got sent to the Ahl.
I think the main thing regarding martindale is that he wont get the right minutes to play in the Ahl. Then you decide is it better for him to play 4 th line minutes in the A or top minutes in Junior and work on his skating/ defensive play rather than learn to play in an entire league altogether.

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by SumOil on Sep 26, 2011 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

Where is the harm in him playing an overage year in junior? He didn’t exactly set the WHL on fire last season and is coming off an injury that kept him off skates for five months. Would another season in Medicine Hat really be the end of the world? I won’t argue that this is how every other team does business but that also doesn’t make it automatically right.

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by ryanbatty on Sep 26, 2011 1:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

There’s certainly nothing wrong with bucking agaisnt convention, and is where innovation can occur, but there should be some good reasoning behind it. The concern would be that he would dominate by virtue of being physically and mentally much more mature than other players which could hurt a true progression of his skillset. Since it doesn’t appear that he’s showing any after-effects of the ankle injury right now, I don’t see what benefit of sending him back to MH would him possibly stagnating developmentally.

by Double DD on Sep 26, 2011 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

It didn’t seem to hurt Eberle.

Pitlick was a second round pick (admittedly an early second rounder), I don’t think there is an expectation from him that he shouldn’t be returned to junior.

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by ryanbatty on Sep 26, 2011 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Eberle did not play his overage year in the W.
Overage year can loosely be defined as the year where the player in the CHL is no longer eligible for playing in the WJC.
So if a player turns 20 in a particular calendar year, then its his overage season in the dub.

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by SumOil on Sep 26, 2011 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. Eberle did play two years in junior though, the same as I’m advocating for Pitlick so the comparable stands.

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by ryanbatty on Sep 26, 2011 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

As mentioned by Sum, Eberle was not an overager and was not AHL eligible that season. Playing as a 19 year old as Eberle did and playing as a 20 year old as Pitlick would do are not comparables. I would guess 25% of the WHL is made up of 19 year old players but there are a max of 3 overage spots per WHL team.

And as I mentioned, second rounders are almost never returned to junior and still signed by their NHL team. It only happens if the player is struggling as a prospect and it’s a last shot to earn a contract or there are extenuating circumstances. The following is a list of the only players over the last 10 years to return for overage seasons and still be signed to entry level deals by the team holding their rights.

Eric O’Dell – Was going to AHL prior to heart surgery in summer
Taylor Ellington – Started as pro in ECHL
Adam McQuaid – Columbus not planning to sign and traded away for 5th round pick to Boston who did sign
Corey Crawford – Because of lockout both NHL goaltenders were sent to AHL
Brett Lysak – Struggled as 19 year old and was last minute sign even after overage season

by Double DD on Sep 26, 2011 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

To my way of thinking if Pitlick dominated the WHL last season then by all means move him up but that didn’t happen last season. So I have a hard time believing that suddenly he’ll be too good for the league and that his development as a player will suffer.

Regardless of what any other team has done, I don’t understand why we’re so concerned with moving players along to the next level when they haven’t yet shown they should no longer be at their current level, as if that progression means they will definitely turn into a player down the road.

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by ryanbatty on Sep 27, 2011 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

But moving a player from junior to the AHL isn’t the same as from the AHL to the NHL. Keeping him in junior would be akin to keeping a player in peewee when his peers have gone to bantam. By age, Pitlick has graduated from the WHL. Overager spots are exceptions allowed by the CHL to help those players who are close but can’t find spots in pro hockey yet.

I definitely agree that he didn’t dominate last year but I bet if you take a look at the players who finished ahead of him in points per game in the WHL and eliminate those who should move on this year, you might get him in the top 15 in scoring by default and without any improvement in his game.

By performance alone, he probably is in the top 15% of forwards in the WHL last year. And he’d look even better if you account for physical tools and skillset. Is that not good enough to move on to the next level? That’s a fairly high standard you’re setting otherwise.

by Double DD on Sep 27, 2011 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Of that 15% how many do you figure turn out to be regular NHLers? Where is the harm in taking things easy?

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by ryanbatty on Sep 28, 2011 12:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

The harm is what I’ve mentioned above. What’s the benefit? You’re trying to have a student repeat the grade for getting B’s instead of A’s. If you’re going against conventional logic and the reasons I’ve laid out, there should be some solid reasoning and evidence. And since his health is no longer a concern, I don’t see what they are other than an aversion to “rushing” players. And this isn’t that, this a normal progression players make at age 20.

by Double DD on Sep 28, 2011 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’ll go with Philippe Cornet, Curtis Hamilton, Tanner House, Martin Marincin, Alex Plante, Olivier Roy, Antti Tyrvainen, Chris Vandevelde

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by Derek Zona on Sep 26, 2011 5:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Cornet, Hamilton, House, Green, Keller, Tyrvainen, VandeVelde, Marincin

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by ryanbatty on Sep 26, 2011 9:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

i am assuming this is the official list

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by SumOil on Sep 26, 2011 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Is Kytnar still hurt? I haven’t seen an update on him in a while.

by Jonathan Willis on Sep 26, 2011 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Assuming Hemsky plays and we will say Whitney. I think Potter makes it (I think for sure makes it if Whitney is out), I think Brule is hitting the old dusty trail either through a trade or demotion.

by Tanman37 on Sep 26, 2011 12:10 AM MDT reply actions  

Presumably the makeup of the final roster is heavily determined by the health (or lack of it) of Whitney, Gagner and Eager. If all three of those are on IR to begin the year, then that really allows players such as Potter, Petrel, Lander and Hartiakaenen to step up and stamp a claim for a place.

by Yeti# on Sep 26, 2011 7:56 AM MDT reply actions  

I think Gagner being out for a long time would only allow RNH to stay on longer and then the battle is between Brule/ Lander. If gagner is back early then I think the chances of RNH staying are lower.

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by SumOil on Sep 26, 2011 9:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

So, the official cuts sent down to OC were:
Ryan Lowery (D)
Olivier Roy (G)
Philippe Cornet (LW)
Tanner House (LW)
Chris VandeVelde ©
Alex Plante (D)
Milan Kytnar (RW)
Curtis Hamilton (LW)
Ryan Martindale ©
Tyler Pitlick ©
The Oilers also assigned Martin Marincin (D) to Prince George (WHL) and Kirill Tulupov (D) will report to Oklahoma City.

Couldn’t we have kept Tulupov for at least one more pre-season game. Hell, he got more of a chance to injure our own players rather than the opposition. And he sure made the most of that chance.

by Yeti# on Sep 26, 2011 12:57 PM MDT reply actions  

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