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Individual Point Percentage - Defensemen

Who's the better offensive defenseman? The result may not surprise you.

Over the last week or so, I've been looking at the individual point percentage - a calculation of the number of times an individual player gets a point (either a goal or an assist) relative to the total number of goals scored while he's on the ice - for all of the forwards who saw a significant amount of ice time during the 2010-11 season. Today, I'll start doing the same thing for defensemen.

As you might expect, defensemen are in on significantly less offense than forwards, which means that they'll have individual point percentages that are significantly lower. Still, some defensemen are much more important at the offensive end tIn order to get an idea of what makes for a good number, I'll start by looking at just the defenders who have played at least fifty games in each of the last four seasons, and take a look at their four-year average.

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Let's jump straight to the results (raw data from behindthenet.ca with up years marked in green and down years marked in red):

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The first thing you notice is that there aren't nearly as many defenders as there are forwards, with just 82 men meeting the fifty-game minimum in each of the last four seasons. Still, that's a decent sample of guys to look at when we're trying to see how this works itself out over time. The average four-year average (yikes) is 28.6%, but I'd guess that that number is probably a little bit higher than "actual" average since we've encapsulated a whole bunch of survival bias. But that might not be true. As it turns out, the average for the 174 defensemen who played at least fifty games in 2010-11 was 30.1%.

As for the top and bottom end of the list, I think it generally makes a lot of sense to me with the big exception being the guy at the very top. I would not have guessed that Steve Montador would be the leading the group, but I also haven't seen the guy play all that much, so I'll make a mental note to pay attention to the man's style when the Oilers play the Blackhawks this year.

But other than Montador, the top third of the list is populated by guys who belong there, including Edmonton's Tom Gilbert. He didn't have much luck in 2010-11, but Gilbert is a very good passer, and a guy who has a good sense of when it's appropriate to jump into the play. I get the feeling that he did less of that than he'd have liked playing the toughs with Theo Peckham at his side, which is one of the reasons I thought the Oilers should go out and get a couple of players to play a tough minutes role. Gilbert and Ryan Whitney playing together in more offensive situations could have been very good indeed. Alas, it looks like we might be seeing more of Gilbert-Peckham or Gilbert-Smid.

And speaking of Ladislav Smid, he's one of the many guys who look like they're exactly where they should be on the bottom third of the list. Smid saves his number a bit with what looks like it was a very lucky year in 2008-09, but overall, I think he's about where he belongs. The guys around him generally belong there too. Guys like Anton Volchenkov, Robyn Regehr, and Douglas Murray are very good hockey players, but they're not exactly known for their offense.

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How does Green look? He missed the cutoff by one game this year at 49.

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by red army line on Aug 28, 2011 5:34 PM MDT reply actions  

He’s among the league leaders. Over the last four years, he has 107 points five-on-five on 262 goals-for for an IPP of 40.8%, and he’s been quite consistently high too. 2010-11 was his weakest season at 36.4% on 33 goals-for.

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by Scott Reynolds on Aug 28, 2011 5:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Pitkanen looks a little better than I thought he would. It’s also kind of assuring to see Kaberle higher than Corvo on here but I think his numbers might be dragged down from that awful 08-09 season.

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by MyFriendCorey on Aug 28, 2011 6:56 PM MDT reply actions  

Pitkanen has always been pretty good at producing ES offense, it’s his PP offense that has always been surprisingly low.

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by dawgbone98 on Aug 29, 2011 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I always thought he was overrated on the poweplay but I agree that he’s solid at even strength.

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by MyFriendCorey on Aug 29, 2011 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

Did you calculate the average by taking the percentages year by year and calculating the average of those, or by taking the total number over the 4 years of goals when on, and taking the percentage of those where a point was recorded by that player

by Ahmad Bradshaw on Aug 28, 2011 7:48 PM MDT reply actions  

Good question. I calculated the average by taking the percentages year by year and calculated the average. Same with the forward chart earlier, though in some of the individual calculations I used the second method (as with Green above).

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by Scott Reynolds on Aug 29, 2011 8:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Montador

He’s an elite 5v5 point producer, and has been for years now. He’s been a top-30 guy every year since 2007-08.

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by Jonathan Willis on Aug 29, 2011 2:02 PM MDT reply actions  

And yet would never make it onto a “top ten offensive defensemen” list. Is that just a function of not getting power play time?

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by Scott Reynolds on Aug 29, 2011 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

Montador's a very good passer Scott

That’s his biggest offensive asset. Jack of all trades, master of none. He’s been compared to a poor man’s Seabrook.

He could get some decent time on the PP this year. Quenneville likes Sharp at the point on the 1st unit PP. Last season, Seabrook primarily was the lone defender. The 2nd unit often was Keith and Campbell. Q loves veterans, so Monty might get the first crack at the 2nd unit over Leddy.

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