Looking Back for a Forward
In writing about how I might decide to run the Oilers' forward group this coming season (you know, if it were up to me), I was pretty satisfied with three of the groups I'd use to start the season. Smyth - Gagner - Hemsky and Hall - Horcoff - Eberle should both be able to handle themselves quite well against the top lines on other squads, and a protected line of Eager - Nugent-Hopkins - Omark puts the young center in a position to have some offensive success with a solid physical presence riding (with a proverbial) shot-gun to put his mind at ease.
But the remaining group of Petrell - Belanger - Paajarvi leaves something to be desired. The idea was for them to start a lot in the defensive zone, and maybe they'd be up for it, but with Paajarvi entering his sophomore season, and Petrell untested at the NHL level, it sure would be nice to have at least one more player who's established himself in the NHL.
I think that player could be Bruce McCurdy's favorite post-dynasty Oiler, Mike Grier. Here's an anecdote from Bruce on Grier's time in Edmonton:
I was at one game where Grier popped his shoulder out in a collision on the end boards. He let out one of those involuntary screams of pain and immediately headed for the bench, holding his arm in place, his clenched face a mask of agony. I don't think play so much as stopped, he just went off and the game carried on without him. As he disappeared down the tunnel I remember thinking "O golly" - I'm pretty sure it was "golly" that was flashing through my brain at that moment - "That's it, his season's done." And the sonofagun was back out there the next period! "Just had to pop it back in place and it felt fine". Maybe so, but I for one would have forgiven him if he'd taken the rest of the night off. Nuh-uh. Happened a few times that one season.
Mike Grier was tough, a big man who loved to hit, and could be counted on to play tough minutes both at even strength and on the penalty kill. Not much has changed. Grier has played in Buffalo for the last two seasons, and has continued to do what he's done his entire career. In both 2009-10 and 2010-11 he led Buffalo's forwards in PK time on ice per game, and that unit stayed in the top half of the league in both seasons. At even strength, Grier had one of the most difficult end-zone start ratios on the club and probably faced middling competition, which is the exact role that I'd like to see filled. His results have been pretty decent:
A better than expected zoneshift, and a Corsi number that's about in line with what you'd expect given the circumstances. I'm not going to pretend that this makes him a superstar, but he's clearly competent, and that just happens to be what I'm looking for.
Stylistically, Grier is exactly the kind of player the Oilers are looking for. He's been among the Sabres' leaders in hits the last two seasons, and has (by all accounts) an incredible pain threshold and work ethic. There aren't many better role models out there than Grier. Would Mike Grier make this team a Cup contender? Of course not. But he can make this club better today without sacrificing any of the future. Hard to beat that.
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Interesting lineup. But (you know, if it were up to me):), I would try through September and first nine regular season games in October the following lineup:
Hall-Eberle-Hemsky
Smyth-RNH-Gagner
Paajarvi-Horcoff-Omark
Eager-Belanger-Jones
Pros: all four lines can score and defend; mix of youth and experience; Eberle is on tryout as centre (has all the makings) while Gagner is tried as a winger with RNH as pivot. Cons: let’s try and see:)
I’m not a big fan of moving Eberle to centre and Gagner to wing. What do you gain by having both guys play out of position?
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by Scott Reynolds on Aug 12, 2011 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Let’s call it an experiment with benefits. Pros (as I see it): Eberle and RNH will play with some of the best players. They can be “the centres” due to their skills and make players around them much better. For the 1st line you have Hemsky enjoying something he rarely (if ever) had before – “the killer” linemates. RNH is going to enjoy playing bigger minutes with the experienced/promising players. For Gagner this can be a learning curve plus a confidence booster (yes!) because of growing production. I don’t think that Gagner will be necessarily moved out of centre position. Cons: Nada. If something doesn’t work – keep playing the same musical chairs (Smyth-Horcoff-Hemsky; Hall-Gagner-Eberle…)
by Roman_Pilgrim on Aug 14, 2011 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions
I forgot one more line combination: Horcoff (and not Gagner) centering Paajarvi and Omark will allow them to gain more experience and increase their production. Belanger will do the same, but it is difficult to imagine that Horcoff gets moved to the fourth line.
by Roman_Pilgrim on Aug 14, 2011 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions
There is so much right with this move that it’s never going to happen. It would keep Hordichuk in the AHL, to start with
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I honestly don’t think RNH needs protection nearly as much as Omark needs someone he can tag-team with. PRV-RNH-Omark could be just as protected by line matching. From what I’ve seen, it’d be a crime to split up the two swedes.
I get that we’re breaking in another little dude, but there’s other players on the team, no? Bottom line is, Ben freaking Eager belongs on the fourth line. I’d like to see us not crush the young careers of PRV and Omark just to shelter a guy who (arguably) isn’t strong enough to be in the NHL in the first place.
I’ll say up front that I like Eager more than most folks. I think he’s quite good on the forecheck and decent battling along the boards, which would work well with Omark. Alongside both Omark and Nugent-Hopkins, I’m sure he’d have no problem crashing the net either. Giving those three about ten minutes a night at evens (with some PP time for Nugent-Hopkins and Omark) seems like a good way to break the kid in. If you end up with with the two Swedes and Nugent-Hopkins together, and then a fourth line with Eager on it, you end up with two forward lines that need pretty diligent protection, and I think it’s very hard to do that and have success. As for Omark and Paajarvi together. I remember some dandy plays for sure, but also a lot of playing at the wrong end of the ice, so I don’t feel compelled to see them together going forward.
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by Scott Reynolds on Aug 12, 2011 11:51 PM MDT up reply actions
I get what you’re saying Scott, but from the stats it looks like you’d be saddling those guys with a boat anchor. And why would you throttle Omark with a lousy ten minutes? Also, I’m not so sure HHE really need the protection you’re suggesting. I still think the PRV/RNH/Omark line could just as easily be protected by line matching.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=55267
Hope I’m wrong, but this guy looks an awful lot to be a career 4th liner.
I agree that Eager is a career fourth liner, but I think he’s capable of playing ten minutes in this role. I’d normally have no problem putting him on a more traditional fourth line that got fewer minutes, but I don’t think the Oilers can afford to have a line like that and a line with Nugent-Hopkins and the Swedes. Both of those lines would need a lot of protection, and that means fewer offensive minutes for your best offensive players at the top of the lineup, which I don’t like. As for Omark “only” getting ten minutes at evens, I don’t see how he’s going to get a lot more than that. I’ve got Eberle and Hemsky both taking about twelve and a half, and then Omark and Paajarvi/Grier both getting about ten. Even if you’ve got Omark in a more distinct top nine, how much more do you see him playing, and at whose expense?
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by Scott Reynolds on Aug 13, 2011 11:03 AM MDT up reply actions
"...it sure would be nice to have at least one more player who's established himself in the NHL."
Yep. Problem is, I have absolutely no confidence in Tambellini pulling this off. Not necessarily because he can’t, but I get the distinct impression the team is still being throttled, if not so pervasively as in the last couple of years.
Personally, I think the goal for this year should be to contend for a playoff spot. Nothing gels a young team more quickly than a carrot like that. Besides, it should be imperative to give our core guys a taste of what’s necessary to succeed in post-season play. Even if we get our asses kicked in the first round (most likely), the learning would be invaluable going forward.
It’s probably too cynical to say that the team is purposefully being throttled until an arena deal is in place.
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A cynical person is a well-informed idealist?
by Roman_Pilgrim on Aug 14, 2011 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions
I don’t think the Oilers being lousy affects the deal. They don’t have attendance issues.
I think they are being throttled for another high pick. Hopefully this is the last year. They are chock and block full up front.
The pieces missing will take forever to home grow, goalie and top D, unless Doughty or Price clones appear at next year’s draft.

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