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Ales Hemsky - Assorted Power Play Numbers


GFON/60 Scoring Chances

Hemsky NHL AVG TSCF SCF/15 %CON EDM AVG
2010-11 3.9 6.18 62 6.145 0.145 0.16
2009-10 7.85 6.46 63 12.38 0.159 0.22
2008-09 6.3 6.73



2007-08 7.9 6.14



By goals for on per 60, Ales Hemsky has been above average until last year where there was certainly a problem.  But above average isn't "good".  By the scoring chances, his 2010 numbers were off by half compared to 2009, but the Oilers conversion rate with Hemsky on the ice remained low.  You can find the rest of the Oilers' power play chance numbers here.  Remember the caveat for the scoring chances - we're working with only two seasons of data and both of those seasons were abbreviated for Hemsky.  It's also worth noting Dustin Penner's numbers last season without  Hemsky for 60 games - his SCF/15 was 7.16 and his conversion rate was .208

Last note:  Opponents averaged 11.028 SCF/15 against Edmonton's putrid penalty kill this season.  Hemsky's SCF/15 2009-10 numbers were superior to the rest of the league against the league's worst penalty kill.

I've reached out to the other gentlemen who tracked scoring chances in 2010 to ask them to compile the power play scoring chance rates for their respective teams.  I tracked Florida's chances in 2010, but they were the worst power play in the league and using them as a comparison would make J.F. Jacques look good.

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If we weight each of the average seasons equally, we get an overall average of 6.38. If we weight Hemsky’s seasons by the amount of ice time he had in each, we get an average of 6.59, so slightly above average. If the minimum time on ice per game you used to find the NHL average was low enough to include a bunch of the second unit guys, that is, in fact, a pretty bad result for a player running a first-unit power play.

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by Scott Reynolds on Aug 12, 2011 10:31 AM MDT reply actions  

Try finding comps for this situation. It’s great fun!

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by Derek Zona on Aug 12, 2011 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

For which situation?

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by Scott Reynolds on Aug 12, 2011 10:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

Dominant ES player surrounded by chum on the PP.

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by Derek Zona on Aug 12, 2011 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

I guess “chum” is a matter of opinion. Whatever evaluation you’ve used to consider those surrounding him “chum” needs to be applied to Hemsky himself too.

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by Scott Reynolds on Aug 12, 2011 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

The last time the Oilers had more than one decent player on the power play with him was 2005-06. They had an average power play and he had a ton of power play points.

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by Derek Zona on Aug 12, 2011 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don’t think that’s true. In 2007-08 they had Penner and Pitkanen, and in 2008-09 and 2009-10 they had Penner, Souray, and Visnovsky. These are all guys who have been part of the first unit on other teams (although Penner only briefly).

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by Scott Reynolds on Aug 12, 2011 11:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Pitkanen has never really been good on the PP.

In 08-09 Visnovsky missed 30 games and in 09-10 Hemsky played 22 games and Souray played 37.

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by dawgbone98 on Aug 12, 2011 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

of course he had a ton of power play points, everyone did in 2005-06 who got a lot of power play time.

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by Triumph44 on Aug 12, 2011 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Anahiem

Hey Copper N Blue Peeps,

I was just reading an article on Selanne and the Ducks. The article brought up that if Selanne didn’t return that the Ducks would need a top six F. Hemsky?

Might work. And the return we be ok. I assume Etown wouldn’t get a roster player, but a prospect(s) and pick(s) might be a healthy return.

Any retort?

Well, as the name states it’s…

by Just-a-thought on Aug 12, 2011 1:06 PM MDT reply actions  

And the return WOULD be ok. @&%$$!!!! lol

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