JF Jacques Signs With the Ducks

by Lisa McRitchie on Jul 6, 2011 1:19 PM MDT

The exodus of unsigned Oilers' UFAs continues out of Edmonton this morning as Edmonton Oilers drafted winger Jean-Francois Jacques has signed with the Anaheim Ducks.

JFJ was drafted in the second round by the Oilers in the 2003 NHL entry draft because of his size and his physical game. Jacques played 7 games in the NHL with the Oilers in 2005, but never stuck. Jacques continued to play a majority of his games in the AHL until the 2009-10 season where Jacques played the season in the NHL. Well, when he was healthy.

Through his short career, Jacques has had two back surgeries and has never played the same since. It looked as though Jacques was always playing worried that he would re-injure his back with any hit. Jacques does have the size and ability to be the player that Kevin Lowe saw in him and spoke of often, but it will be up to him what he will make of his career.

Numbers have not yet been released, but I would bet money (note I rarely bet money because as soon as I say that, it doesn't come true) on this one year deal being a two way contract where Jacques would receive a significantly lower salary for playing for the Syracuse Crunch in Syracuse NY. While with the Oilers, his last two years were one way deals, but it seems fairly clear that despite most of the Oilers team not living up to their contracts, Jacques was one of the worst offenders. Jacques has 9 goals and 8 assists in 160 games with the Oilers.

UPDATE: I should buy a lottery ticket before I get home, capgeek has the numbers online now. JFJ will make $105,000 AHL and $650,000 NHL.

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Jacques has 9 goals and 8 assists in 160 games with the Oilers.

Terrible numbers that only scratch the surface of his uselessness. Bye bye Jacques, I’m not going to miss you.

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by ryanbatty on Jul 6, 2011 1:25 PM MDT reply actions

So I should have posted a poll? I was going to, but then decided I alread knew the result.

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by Lisa McRitchie on Jul 6, 2011 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions

The only purpose of a poll would be to find those that think Jacques is a good hockey player and expose them to ridicule. Call it tough love.

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by ryanbatty on Jul 6, 2011 1:59 PM MDT up reply actions

Nobody thinks JFJ is “a good hockey player” we just think that a fucking savage who runs people through the boards is a requirement on a dynasty team. Having a guy who runs fuckers, and scores goals, and is agile enough to track somebody and actually finish his check is a dream for me. Ben Eager represents that dream at this point…I belive it was Scotty Rey who wrote that the tuffest guys can be aquired thru FA, hence no point in drafting them…If Eager plays well, point proven scott.

Somebody else suggested not to draft DMen early because high pedigree D are often availbable at low cost in later years.
Itj’s funny how we all wanted Tambi to deal for a top 8 pick this year, and were willing to give up so much….yet nobody has given him credit for picking up the #3 pick in the 04 draft for nufing!

by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Jul 7, 2011 3:01 AM MDT up reply actions

yet nobody has given him credit for picking up the #3 pick in the 04 draft for nufing!

Where a player is drafted matters exactly one time, at the draft. That Barker was drafted at #3 means absolutely nothing now. It doesn’t make him automatically better than the player drafted behind him (Ladd) or even the next defenseman taken (Smid). Daigle went 1st overall one upon a time, I’m sure he’d come pretty cheap too.

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by ryanbatty on Jul 7, 2011 8:22 AM MDT up reply actions

Bonsignore and Kelly also say hi.

I feel kind of dirty lumping Kelly in there, don’t think he ever lacked for effort.

by proxy on Jul 7, 2011 8:31 AM MDT up reply actions

Because the #3 pick in 04 has only demonstrated that he’s a terrible hockey player.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

by dawgbone98 on Jul 7, 2011 8:37 AM MDT up reply actions

Enjoy the process

You’re making fools of yourselves….and for a bunch of stat guys, i’m surprised.

Draft position, in the hockey world, sticks to a player more than NATIONALITY FOR FAAACKS SAKES!!!

think of a draft pick from an economic standpoint. Every unchosen pick has value, the higher the pick, the higher the value….once a player is chosen, it becomes a sunk cost, and a less tangible asset.

So buying Barker is like buying the shittiest run down house on the 3rd best block in the city. Here’s to fixin her up!

by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Jul 7, 2011 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions

Please try and explain this again, you’ve lost me completely. I still don’t see how acquiring Barker is good move just because he was a 3rd overall pick seven years ago.

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by ryanbatty on Jul 7, 2011 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions

Thing is, all those draft busts mentioned had tons of skill, they just didn’t make it big, motivation, work ethic, who knows why it didn’t happen.

Cam Barker has lots of Skill, and Edmonton seems to have a great dressing room attitude, so If the team can flip that switch in Barker’s head, and turn a Daigle into a Koivu, or a Bosignore into a Smyty

by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Jul 7, 2011 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions

Maybe they can maybe they can’t. But I don’t think it’s reasonable to think Tambellini deserves credit for bringing in a guy who hasn’t been good just because he has a skill set that says he could be good. Now if he brought in a player that actually is good then that’d be a different story.

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by ryanbatty on Jul 7, 2011 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions

There’s a lot more than a switch.

Some players rely on things and excel at things in junior that just don’t work in the NHL.

The best 17 year old doesn’t necessarily translate into the best 25 year old. Not only that, but sometimes the talent levels in certain leagues make players look way better than they are.

Take Daigle for instance. Finished 3rd in the league in points in his draft year. But during that time, the QMJHL was just a terrible league. From 1991-1994, there were 16 total skaters taken from the Q who played at least 250 NHL games in their career. Of those 16, 0 were what can be considered impact players.

1994 Dandenault, Roy, Aubin
1993 Daigle, Bordeleau, Daze,
1992 Traverse, Barnaby, Bouchard, Laperriere
1991 Poulin, Lapointe, Boucher, Corbet, Perreault, McCarthy

Oddly enough, if you look at the WHL that Barker played in, it was also relatively weak. There were more NHLers picked and at least an impact player chosen (Getzlaf), it was still relatively weak on the whole.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

by dawgbone98 on Jul 7, 2011 12:50 PM MDT up reply actions

I watched Roy snap a bone in Jan Hedja’s shoulder….I would call him an “impact” player

by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Jul 7, 2011 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions

I’ve seen an ice rut dislocate a knee…

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

by dawgbone98 on Jul 7, 2011 7:12 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs

That value only exists so long, and is ultimately irrelevant after a period of time.

And the house analogy is all well and good, except that no matter how shitty the house is, it is always possible to make it better (even if it means tearing it down completely and rebuilding it).

You can’t always do that with people.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

by dawgbone98 on Jul 7, 2011 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions

Yeah I didn’t really get the analogy. You can put time and energy into a house and get value out of it but with a player time and effort doesn’t guarantee any return.

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by ryanbatty on Jul 7, 2011 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions

Good point dawgbone,

Maybe Barker is like Kenny Powers, and just needs to get off the booze and cigs.

by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Jul 7, 2011 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions

I am sure there is a good deal of excitement about JFJ in Anaheim – just like all of the retreads we try here that never work out.

by book!e on Jul 6, 2011 2:44 PM MDT reply actions

Of course they’re excited, he’s 6’4". How can you not be good at hockey if you’re 6’4"?

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by ryanbatty on Jul 6, 2011 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions

And he can skate too...

Heck I’ve read that his skill level is so ridiculous that he doesn’t even need a stick to play his game and maintain his level of effectiveness.

by proxy on Jul 6, 2011 3:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions

etc..etc…etc…Barker, Sutton….etc…etc…etc…

Success is not a goal..its a byproduct

by SumOil on Jul 6, 2011 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions

JFJ

Au revoir!
À plus tard.
Bonne chance.
Toast et le bacon.
C’est tout, les gars!

by Fred Furlong on Jul 6, 2011 3:41 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs

hahaha very funny

by Screaming69 on Jul 6, 2011 11:24 PM MDT up reply actions

JFJ will score a goal against us if he’s playing in the NHL, book it.

The Edmonton Oilers - All we do is win!!

by OilLeak on Jul 7, 2011 12:10 PM MDT reply actions

Of course, that’s SOP for the Oilers.

by TakeoutArtist on Jul 7, 2011 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions

And by the same token, Stortini will notch his 2nd career hat trick against the Oil.

by TakeoutArtist on Jul 7, 2011 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions

It’s like that old saying; one man’s garbage is another man’s garbage.

by jeanshorts on Jul 7, 2011 10:36 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs

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