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Dillon Simpson - #21 In the Oilers Top 25 Under 25

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Dillon Simpson was the second "family" pick by the Edmonton Oilers in the 2011 NHL draft, and while rival fans laughed and some Oilers' fans yelped at the Oilers' predilection towards legacy players, Simpson is a legitimate prospect, not a favor to a friend. Though our loyal readership didn't give Simpson much respect in our "Not Quite Top 25" poll -  he garnered only 6% of your vote as a possible Top 25 member - he was certainly in the range, and maybe a bit of a steal when the experts' rankings are considered.

Simpson was drafted in the 4th round (#92), prompting Twitter to explode in cries of "Reach!" because NHL De-Centralized Scouting ranked Simpson #157 among domestic skaters.  But further investigation shows that some scouts liked what they saw.  He didn't crack the top 60 in TSN's rankings, but he was in their top 85 as an "Honourable Mention" candidate.  The Scouting Report ranked Simpson #87 overall, noting:

"In hindsight, Simpson’s draft stock was likely hurt by playing in the NCAA as a 17-year-old....  He will have some time to develop over the next few years and should be well worth a 3rd round pick to see if he can improve on those deficiencies."

The Hockey News liked him even more, ranking him 69th overall. What about our Copper and Blue panelists?

Star-divide

RankPlayer DOBDraftedYearBen
Bruce
Derek
JaysenJonScott
21 Dillon Simpson
02/10/93
92 2011
22
25 14 19 25 23

 

Previous Rank:  N/A

I've got the young defender rated higher than any of my colleagues, and in fact, I have Simpson ranked higher than the Oilers' second round pick, David Musil.  But you'll notice that all of us have Simpson ranked in the top 25, the first time that's happened so far.  Simpson was one of the more difficult players to rank because comparables are difficult to come by:  he was playing defense in the NCAA at the age of 17, not an easy task for any 17-year old, especially a defender.  He didn't catch on at a second-rate school, either.  North Dakota is one of the premier programs in the NCAA, and the Western Collegiate Hockey Association is the best conference in college hockey.  Most 17-year old players are red-shirted, but Simpson isn't just another 17-year old player.  I spoke with Jayson Hajdu, Director or Athletic Media Relations at The University of North Dakota about Simpson.  I asked him about the rarity of such a young defenseman on the Fighting Sioux roster:

"We’ve had a couple of defensemen come in as 17-year olds: Joe Finley and Mike Commodore come to mind, although they were both a few months older than Dillon," said Hajdu.  "However, I can tell you – and you may have already known this – Dillon was the youngest player in NCAA Division I hockey last season."

Commodore was drafted in the 2nd round (#42) in 1999 by the New Jersey Devils and has 454 career games to his credit.  Joe Finley was drafted in the 1st round (#27) by the Washington Capitals in 2005, but has struggled to adjust to the professional game.  Comparing Commodore, Finley and Simpson's rookie seasons is interesting:


GP G A P PIM Team Goals
Mike Commodore 29 0 5 5 74 188
Joe Finley 43 0 3 3 96 164
Dillon Simpson 30 2 8 10 8 178

 

Clearly, Simpson is a different type of defender.  Commodore stood 6'4", and weighed 210 lbs., while Finley was 6'7" and 240 lbs.  Both were rough and tumble players, even as freshman, and their penalty minutes show that.  Simpson is 6'1" and 195 lbs., and has more offense in his game than the other two combined.  

From Redline report:

Stay at home defencemen with savvy and size... has very good hockey sense and understands game situations instinctively. Sluggish skater with a short stride, but shows good gap control and lateral mobility. Tentative to do anything offensively and always has one foot back on defence. Doesn't see the ice well and hurries to get the puck off his stick. Makes sharp defensive reads and is rarely out of position. Struggled 1-on-1 in the corners and down low against more physically developed forwards.

He's a great positional defenseman with a high level of intelligence but struggled with game speed and physical play against 22 and 23 year-olds.  He brings more offense compared to the previous 17 year-old defensemen in the program, and he was the youngest player in the NCAA. Simpson has two or three years to fine-tune his game before he starts his professional career.  When that happens, he'll still be relatively young, especially for an NCAA prospect.  If he gets a couple of breaks and stays healthy, the description of his game sure sounds like Tom Gilbert to me.

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I mentioned on draft day that I think his skating is over-stated.

He looks like a poor skater against 20+ year olds. He’d look like an average skater against his peer group.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

by dawgbone98 on Jul 15, 2011 11:46 AM MDT reply actions  

I think you, Jaysen and I are very similar when it comes to our views on prospects.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 15, 2011 2:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

I disagree. At the development camp I thought his skating looked quite poor and he stood out as one of the weaker skaters in camp. As Redline mentioned, he has a very short stride with very little burst in it. On the plus side, the superior hockey sense and positioning was obvious in any of the 1 on 1 or 2 on 1 drills. But, he’ll need to make significant improvements in his skating to be a be an NHLer.

I’m surprised Simpson made the list over Bunz after the latter was invited to the summer WJC camp and is likely second in line behind Mark Visentin for the starting job right now.

by Double DD on Jul 15, 2011 9:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

At the development camp I thought his skating looked quite poor and he stood out as one of the weaker skaters in camp.

He was the youngest player in camp by far.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 15, 2011 9:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

You’re mistaken. All the other 2011 draftees other than Klefbom were there, so he definitely wasn’t the youngest.

by Double DD on Jul 15, 2011 9:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Let’s put it this way…When recruiters were falling all over themselves trying to get this guy 2 years ago, his skating was a footnote. He was listed as an average skater with great hockey sense.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

by dawgbone98 on Jul 16, 2011 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, the fact that it apparently hasn’t improved in 2 years while his peers have been progressing makes it a lot more concerning since it certainly isn’t average right now.

by Double DD on Jul 16, 2011 6:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

since it certainly isn’t average right now.

Yet he played in 30 games for one of the best programs in the NCAA. One of these things doesn’t compute.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 16, 2011 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

It computes just fine. As I mentioned before, he has terrific hockey sense and positioning and at the NCAA level it compensates for his poor skating. And he’s certainly not the only player who can compensate for mobility probelms at lower levels (i.e. Dylan Olsen).

And really, I haven’t disagreed with this ranking but more with dawgbone’s assessment of his skating. I’d probably put him in that 21 to 25 range on a list like this as well as he has some clear plus skills that can make him an NHLer if his weaknesses are addressed. However, if you don’t think his skating is an issue, then I honestly don’t know what player you’ve been watching.

by Double DD on Jul 17, 2011 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

I never said it wasn’t an issue. He’s a poor skater at the NCAA level.

But based on his age, I think that there is room for improvement and that his weakness there is over stated because he’s playing against players who are further along in their development, so the comparison of his skating ability is based on a different set of criteria than it would be if he was playing against his peers.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

by dawgbone98 on Jul 18, 2011 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

Who says it hasn’t improved?

In the 2 years he’s gone from playing AAA hockey to one of the toughest NCAA divisions (as one of the youngest players), with a stop in the AJHL in between.

It’s more likely that he’s gone up in terms of competition faster than he’s made improvements.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

by dawgbone98 on Jul 18, 2011 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

He’s a great positional defenseman with a high level of intelligence but struggled with game speed and physical play against 22 and 23 year-olds

Did we just get punk’d? We re-drafted Taylor Chorney.

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by doritogrande on Jul 15, 2011 1:07 PM MDT reply actions  

Are you willing to give me odds that Simpson tops Chorney’s 44 GP 3 G 15 A 18 P this year?

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by Derek Zona on Jul 15, 2011 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought only one of the not quite top 25 would make the list. Still he doesnt compare to Bunz

Success is not a goal..its a byproduct

by SumOil on Jul 15, 2011 2:31 PM MDT reply actions  

Um… I hate to break it to you, but only one of the not quite top 25 is in the top 25.

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by Scott Reynolds on Jul 15, 2011 4:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

whaaaaaaat Bunz did not make it? I am surprised..very surprised

Success is not a goal..its a byproduct

by SumOil on Jul 15, 2011 8:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm, Sum, seems my questioning of Chorney ahead of Bunz had merit after all… ; )

by gcw_rocks on Jul 16, 2011 7:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not putting a recently drafted goalie in the top 25 I understand, but behind Olivier Roy? Odd.

by David Supina on Jul 15, 2011 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

Still he doesnt compare to Bunz

Based on…?

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by Derek Zona on Jul 15, 2011 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

the fact that Bunz had a very good draft plus 1 season. He is improved a lot and his arrows are pointing upwards. Dillon simpson had a good season, but his skating is determined as a major flaw.
We dont know how Simpson would progress. But we are seeing good points from Bunz. Hell how/why is perhonen a better prospect than Bunz?

Success is not a goal..its a byproduct

by SumOil on Jul 15, 2011 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

He’s still the 28th-best WHL goalie in the last 7 years. How have the 27 guys in front of him done?

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Jul 15, 2011 9:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wow, this one shocks me. Simpson seems to be a complete crap shoot with Chorney type risk written all over him. Now who has been drinking the koolaid…

by gcw_rocks on Jul 15, 2011 3:14 PM MDT reply actions  

Chorney

What’s the knock on Chorney that makes it hard for him to play NHL? It’s definitely not speed. He was faster than Hall in the skills competition.

by Waltlaw on Jul 15, 2011 4:22 PM MDT reply actions  

His issue has been size and strength.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

by dawgbone98 on Jul 16, 2011 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

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