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Oilers Trade Kurtis Foster to Ducks for Andy Sutton

Kurtis Foster had a terrible season. Jonathan Willis wrote about it being the worst offensive season of his career and it may well have also been the worst defensive season of his career too. When the Oilers signed Foster a year ago, I thought that the signing was solid for a guy who could help on the power play, play bottom pairing minutes well, and potentially play well enough to be a reasonable option in the top four. Things didn't work out that way. He struggled on the power play (along with the rest of the Oilers), and looked overmatched playing on the third pairing, nevermind the second. So today, the Oilers traded Foster to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for Andy Sutton. Sutton is more expensive ($2.25M compared to $1.8M in real dollars), but is he really any better?

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In his prime, Andy Sutton was a player who could play solid minutes on your bottom pairing, and play in your top four in a pinch, but at thirty-six years old, Andy Sutton is no longer in his prime. Last season, he played in just 39 games for the Anaheim Ducks. He missed 21 games because of a thumb injury, but there were plenty of other nights when Sutton was a healthy scratch, and when he was in the lineup, he didn't play much, averaging just 12:23 per game at even strength, more than a minute less than guys like Andreas Lilja and Luca Sbisa

So what did he do with those limited minutes? Like all of the bottom-pairing defensemen, Randy Carlyle tried to protect Sutton at evens, but the results weren't pretty. Sutton had 53.3% of his end-zone starts in the offensive zone, but had 45.4% of his end-zone stops in the offensive zone. His Corsi of -18.74 per sixty minutes was the second worst among the team's defenders, and much worse than any of Edmonton's regular defenders with the exception of Jason Strudwick.  When Andy Sutton was on the ice, the puck was going the wrong way.

Of course, that's not why the Oilers acquired him. They acquired him because he hits people. He hits people like Fernando Pisani, people like Shawn Horcoff (no video = me sad), and people like J-F Jacques (time to argue about this play again, Bruce!), all of whom ended up out of the lineup after their run-ins with the 6'6'' 245 lb. defenseman. So there you have it! He's an old run-down version of what we hope Theo Peckham might one day become (and interestingly, those two will likely be competing with one another to stay in the lineup). To be perfectly frank, I think I'd rather have bet on a bounce-back year from the much younger and less expensive Foster.

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Wow Sutton is much shittier than I thought

Success is not a goal..its a byproduct

by SumOil on Jul 1, 2011 3:50 PM MDT reply actions  

Well, he was once a pretty good defenseman. He’s just old now.

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by Scott Reynolds on Jul 1, 2011 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Addition through subtraction

Sutton got little ice time, looked like his play dropped off a lot. Maybe he will be terrible.

But Foster was atrocious, and I’m not buying it was so much of an off year. He created little in the way of scoring chances, bu absolutely leaked them. His bad year was no fluke. He is that bad, I’d argue.

Also, the Oilers will be forced to use someone else on pp, rather than see if Foster can work through his issues out there. Terrible passer of the puck, from what I saw.

At worst, this is a wash.

by David Staples @ The Cult of Hockey on Jul 1, 2011 4:00 PM MDT reply actions  

I think they are expecting someoen like Barker to take over that role

Success is not a goal..its a byproduct

by SumOil on Jul 1, 2011 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, David. I think this might be a case of knowing Foster a lot better than Sutton. He was terrible for the Ducks this year. I have a feeling you’ll be saying a lot of the same things about Sutton (“atrocious”; “created little”; “he is that bad”) this time next year, although you’ve made a great point about this deal getting Foster off of the power play.

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by Scott Reynolds on Jul 1, 2011 5:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

You’ve not seen, nor researched, Sutton.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 1, 2011 11:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

This bad player can at least kick butt, and I think that’s what it’s about. Bad players who don’t like to or can’t protect the good players and don’t contribute physically are the most useless type of useless.

I think we have seen a step forward in the rebuild. The talent will be protected and they can ice actual NHL level players in every position, so should they choose, and before everyone gets hurt.

I hope to see them really work on playing the system and knitting together as a group. Not getting pounded should help with pride in the team.

ST gets a gold star.

by FastOil on Jul 1, 2011 10:27 PM MDT reply actions  

Bad players who don’t like to or can’t protect the good players and don’t contribute physically are the most useless type of useless.

Except that he’s significantly worse than Foster.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 1, 2011 11:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Bad players who take penatlies > bad players.

Interesting logic.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

by dawgbone98 on Jul 5, 2011 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Two things:
A) at least Sutton may still be playing for one final contract
B) we just had this player in a smaller form-factor in Vandermeer

Besides, with Petry likely to begin the year with the club, Whitney healthy, and Barker taking up minutes, we won’t be throwing Andy Sutton out against the Sedins. Anaheim had an awful blue after Lubo last year, so my guess is that Carlyle used him improperly until he figured out where to slot him.

All in all, he’s a major upgrade on Strudwick.

by John Chambers on Jul 1, 2011 11:17 PM MDT reply actions  

All in all, he’s a major upgrade on Strudwick.

no, not really. He might be a slight upgrade on Strudwick.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 1, 2011 11:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

By the looks of things, Sutton was consistently in the bottom four and usually bottom pairing in Anaheim. He had to deal with some early injuries last season, and he’s been better in previous seasons, so it may be that last year was an off-year rather than a permanent decline, but he’s never really been better than a strong #5, so if it is decline – and the guy is getting old – he’ll have a lot of trouble staying in the lineup. And even if he is an upgrade on Strudwick, isn’t the right question whether or not he’s an upgrade on Foster? I don’t know the answer to that question, but I wouldn’t be betting on Sutton. The fact that Sutton’s the guy with the heftier contract makes it that much more difficult for him to cover the bet.

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by Scott Reynolds on Jul 1, 2011 11:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’d be willing to bet money that the analysis of this trade came down to “he’s hurt three Oilers”

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by Derek Zona on Jul 1, 2011 11:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

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