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Rick Pracey, Director of Amateur Scouting, Colorado Avalanche: The top player in the west is Hopkins. Donny, with all your years of experience, talk to us about Ryan Nugent-Hopkins.

Don Paarup, Avs Scout: Right now there's as much interest in him among all of the scouts as there was in, say, Dany Heatley when he was playing Tier II out there. This kid offensively sees the ice as well as anybody I've seen in twenty years. His puck reaction, his creativity and his mechanics are just outstanding. As far as I'm concerned I haven't seen a kid like this for many years, as far as offence is concerned.

Pracey: Is there anybody in this room that thinks Nugent-Hopkins' offence won't translate?

Room: [Dead silence. Even the crickets shut the hell up.]

Pracey: I take it that's "no". [laughter in the the room]

-- Transcript from pre-draft meeting of Avalanche scouting staff, as shown in the video Colorado Avalanche Entry Draft Special 

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First things first, that's a promotional video on the Avs website that faintly reeks of the same sort of slick production values as ooze through Oil Change. I'm sure that by far the most interesting things said in those meetings get left on the virtual cutting-room floor, and never see the light of that hopeless little screen.

Rarely, however, do you hear something unsaid quite as emphatically as that. I found the scouts' reaction to Pracey's informal poll to be mighty telling. After listening to all sorts of interpretations around the Oilogosphere - some of them brayed from the highest hillside - as to what's wrong with Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, that brief interval of silent agreement among the nine seasoned hockey men around that table spoke volumes.  

The cited bit runs from roughly 11:30 to 12:30 of the linked video, with a nice embedded clip demonstrating RNH's skating "mechanics" as Paarup put it. I assume but don't know for sure that he's the Avs western regional scout, thus the comparison to Heatley rather than, say, Crosby. That would bring some context to that "twenty years" comment, as Paarup would not be the first person to suggest RNH is the best prospect from the Dub since Mike Modano and Joe Sakic, or at least on the very short list. Moreover, that comment was specific to how the kid "sees the ice", which certainly conforms to my own take on Nugent-Hopkins: his vision is extraordinary, and his feel for where the soft spots and wrinkles and time lags can be found is off the charts.

If you've got a few minutes, the whole meeting scene from about 08:45 to 16:30 is fun to listen in on. The Avs of course have the #2 pick, so they are talking about the same group of guys who interest Oiler fans. The 'lanche know one of those guys will be gone when it's their turn, and the feeling I got watching that segment is they expect it'll be RNH who is off the board. They're still very confident they'll get a fine player, as they should be. A couple of the scouts spoke extremely highly of Gabriel Landeskog, who would be a very good fit on a Colorado team that's stacked at centre and just acquired an emerging stud defenceman at the cost of their best power forward.

Interesting to hear the criticisms of Sean Couturier, who was basically the only youngster singled out for negative commentary that actually made the final cut of the video. Legitimate or not, the scouting services and the bird dogs themselves seem to agree that the kid's arrows are pointing the wrong way. So either they're all correct about that, or this is one of those mass delusions that entire groups of people fall into occasionally when they start getting hung up on warts. Hey, it's OK to show our scouts criticizing SC because the conventional wisdom is he's dropping like a stone, and we want it to be seen our crack staff is all over that like a sweat. I did find the comment about Couturier potentially scoring on the level of Corey Perry or Bobby Ryan an interesting comp, especially given both Anaheim stars were knocked for their own skating at one point.

Fact is, there are impact players of that calibre available at pretty much every single draft. Whichever one Oilers choose as pick of the litter will be an exciting prospect who will almost certainly raise the fortunes of the team in the years ahead, and this Oiler fan is prepared to get behind whoever that turns out to be. My decidedly non-professional opinion, for what little that's worth, is that I'm liking Nugent-Hopkins, I'm expecting Nugent-Hopkins, but in Stu I trust.

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This kid offensively sees the ice as well as anybody I’ve seen in twenty years.

He means coming from the WHL, right? There’s this Crosby fellow in Pittsburgh…

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by Derek Zona on Jun 8, 2011 10:13 AM MDT reply actions  

I assume but don’t know for sure that he’s the Avs western regional scout, thus the comparison to Heatley rather than, say, Crosby. That would bring some context to that “twenty years” comment

…but I don’t know for sure. Seems reasonable.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 8, 2011 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

he’s the WHL scout, so I think that’s a safe assumption.

by Ca$h-Money! on Jun 8, 2011 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks for confirming. That was the only context where his comments completely made sense.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 8, 2011 12:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

Colorado will take Landeskog

“A couple of the scouts spoke extremely highly of Gabriel Landeskog, who would be a very good fit on a Colorado team that’s stacked at centre and just acquired an emerging stud defenceman at the cost of their best power forward.”

I’ve been trying to get this point across for a while now, as everyone seems to assume Colorado will take Larsson. I think that with Johnson in place Larsson isn’t quite so necessary, and they have plenty of C’s including a #1 in Stastny. They lost Chris Stewart to get Johnson, and Landeskog is a pretty darn good replacement as a power forward with top line potential on the wing.

by Ca$h-Money! on Jun 8, 2011 11:37 AM MDT reply actions  

Over at MHH, the hands-down pick at #2 (assuming RNH is off the board) for Colorado is Landeskog. He has the dual purpose of being Best Player Available and Filling a Need for the Avalanche. Historically, the Avs take BPA and have an emphasis on non-Russian, hard-working, and leadership. If two prospects are nominally equal, the “soft skills” like leadership and work-ethic will typically be the way the Avs scouts lean. All of this again point to Landeskog, IMO.

FWIW, Pracey is the Director of Amateur Scouting and has a pretty good track record. He was largely panned for taking Hishon last season when some of the collective group delusion you mentioned had him ranked much lower on the board, but that pick appears to be bearing some extremely tasty fruit. As do some of his later-round pickups like Barrie and Elliott (the defenseman not the sieve from Ottawa). As much as you have trust in Stu, we tend to think Pracey knows his hockey business like nobody’s errr business.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jun 8, 2011 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if Landeskog has the offence to be the 2nd best player taken from this draft. I know everyone likes his all round game but is it going to be enough?

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by dawgbone98 on Jun 8, 2011 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

For the Avs, it may well be. They put a preference on all-around games and work ethic.

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by Mike @ MHH on Jun 8, 2011 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Landeskog’s even strength points, and even strength goals (per game) are better than RNH, and not far off the other top guys in the draft.

Unlike Smac, who protects nobody, Landeskog will be able to protect Duschene because he will be on the ice with him.

by godot10 on Jun 8, 2011 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

We don’t agree on much, but lordy are we in sync on this draft.

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by Derek Zona on Jun 8, 2011 6:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Landeskog's ceiling is lower than the guys at the top of the draft, but he's certainly less risky as well.

I’d say RNH, Couturier, Huberdeau, and Strome, as far as forwards go, have higher ceilings than Landeskog, but all four are riskier. Even Zibanejad may have a higher ceiling than Landeskog, and he’s probably less risky than the first four forwards as well. That being said, Landeskog with the Avs is a good fit, but think the Avs should shoot higher.

And just because they got Erik Johnson doesn’t make Adam Larsson any less valuable to the Avs. You need 6 d-men. These kids are 18 years old- it will be a few years before they are fully developed, no one knows what will be going on in a few years. Go best player available.

by Metzfan22 on Jun 9, 2011 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well I think an excellent comparison would be Dustin Brown for Landeskog. The question to be asked is whether Brown is a top 3 pick? Even in a redraft would he go top 3 in his year?
I know Landeskog makes a lot of sense for a lot of teams including Edmonton. But as much as I like him, I am not sure whether or not I would pick him as a top 3 pick if i were a GM.

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by SumOil on Jun 9, 2011 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

aah I just checked he was the part of the legendary 2003 draft. So i guess the redraft point is moot.
But see the 2002 to 2005/06 draft, would Brown be a top 3 pick in any of the drafts

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by SumOil on Jun 9, 2011 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

I like Dustin Brown but I don’t think this is true as I’d take all of the following over him (and probably more, these are just the for sure ones):

2002: Nash, Semin, Keith, Ward
2004: Ovechkin, Malkin, Radulov, Zajac, Green
2005: Crosby, Ryan, Kopitar, Staal, Price, Stastny, Letang,
2006: Toews, Backstrom, Giroux, Kessel, Johnson

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by dawgbone98 on Jun 9, 2011 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly. That is my point too. Brown with all his tangibles and intangibles is not a top 3 pick. So drafting Landeskog is almost certainly more as a pick of need than a BPA. I think he is a very safe pick, but I think teams should strive to pick based on higher offensive ceiling/impact on the team. Other comparables would be Morrow and James Neal or even Chris Stewart. Again as much as I would love to have them on the team, not sure if I would spend a top 3 pick. A 5th overall maybe but not higher.
I think another question to be asked is if the certain player develops as you hope him to, so in 3 years would you trade the pick for him. If the answer is yes, then its worth it; if no, then it would be wise to rethink.

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by SumOil on Jun 9, 2011 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

I blame that on artificial dyslexia.

I read your comment as But see the 2002 to 2005/06 draft, Brown would be a top 3 pick in any of the drafts.

Damn speed reading.

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by dawgbone98 on Jun 9, 2011 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

lol…i forgot the ‘question mark’ too.

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by SumOil on Jun 9, 2011 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Exactly; I have no doubt that Landeskog is going to be very productive and an important player for somebody. I'm just not sure he's going to be a superstar.

Even Brendan Morrow makes for a good comp: a good leader, always giving 100%, drop the gloves if he needs to, chips in 25-30 goals. I just think the other forwards have the potential to be superstars, and Landeskog doesn’t necessarily have that same potential.

by Metzfan22 on Jun 9, 2011 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Why do you think Landeskog and Zibanejad are less risky than the other top forwards?

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by Scott Reynolds on Jun 9, 2011 5:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

They are perceived as NHL-ready (or very close), right? Seems to me like in sports in general, the longer it’ll take a draftee to make the big leagues, the harder he is to project (MLB and NFL are rife with late rounders, NBA and NHL forwards are heavily high picks, NHL D take longer, NHL G are very difficult and take the longest). At least, that’s my perception. There’s no “RNH needs to bulk up” or “Couturier needs to improve his skating since it’s barely fringe”—it’s “this guy is prepared right now since all his tools are NHL-caliber.”

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by red army line on Jun 11, 2011 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

Question for those vying for Couturier as #1 pick:

Does the revelation that he has been playing 30 minutes per game, coupled with the fact that all the pro scouts are down on him, and the scouts from the Avs detailed their critisisms of the guy, make you rethink your choice?

by Ca$h-Money! on Jun 8, 2011 11:39 AM MDT reply actions  

In terms of the ice tim… No, because that’s not out of line with what other top CHL forwards who play PP/ES/PK play.

In terms of scouts being down on him, they have him scoring at the same pace as a Perry/Ryan which is pretty fucking good, especially considering the fact that he supposedly has a much better 2 way game than those guys did at the same age.

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by dawgbone98 on Jun 8, 2011 11:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it changes much since my ranking of Couturier at #1 has always been going against the grain of the scouts. In terms of ice time, it was an interesting tidbit, but it was also off-the-cuff. Basically, I’m not sure that he wasn’t exaggerating for effect there. It would be a good question to ask Couturier’s coach or even Couturier himself. A good question for the other top guys too.

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by Scott Reynolds on Jun 8, 2011 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not at all. If I had the first pick, I would seriously consider Couturier.

This is a 6’4’’ center who plays terrific defense, can skate, and has put up back to back 96 point seasons, the second season having mono and playing ten less games. He also won an MVP award this year. I see him as a lot less risky than RNH or Huberdeau, and wouldn’t fault the Oilers if they shocked the world and went with Couturier.

by Metzfan22 on Jun 9, 2011 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

agree with you 100%

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by SumOil on Jun 9, 2011 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

He’s exactly the player that Oiler fans have said that we need.

A big centre who can score. You pass on him and 3 months down the road we’ll be asking for it again, wondering why this stupid organization can’t fill a glaring need.

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by dawgbone98 on Jun 9, 2011 7:46 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

The glaring need is for talent. I say go with BPA.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 9, 2011 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

I’d argue both are pretty freaking talented.

And who is BPA? The guy who plays at PP/PK/ES or the guy who plays PP/ES?

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by dawgbone98 on Jun 10, 2011 8:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

If landeskog is taken at 2, larsson likely falls to nj at 4. What would it take to get that pick from lou?

If they left the draft with rnh and larsson, wow…

by fuzzy muppet on Jun 8, 2011 12:23 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

NJ trade

This is the rumor that has started circulating:

Hemsky, Cogliano, 5th rder to NJD for Rolston, White and 4th overall.

I like this trade and think it’s a win win for both teams and I love the concept of this trade.

NJ gets a great set up man for Kovalchuck with Hemsky and also sheds some needed Cap room.

We get some Vets to guide the kids and can get some pieces that in the future will solve the major holes on D and at Center (with our 1st overall and with NJ’s 4th overall).

Now this is only a rumor for now, but I would jump on something like this.

by Metal&Oil on Jun 8, 2011 1:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

not sure Rolston would waive is NTC to come to Edmonton, but if he did the trade would be worth it. Rolston’s baggage, but White could be useful and #4 will be good no matter who falls. If I wasn’t 100% sure larsson falls to 4, I might shoot for Larsson at 1 and Huberdeau at 4.

by gcw_rocks on Jun 8, 2011 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

This isn’t a rumor. This is something someone on Twitter made up and put “I’m hearing…” in front of it. This is ridiculous, please keep this stuff to HFBoards.

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by Derek Zona on Jun 8, 2011 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

http://twitter.com/#!/AToilfan83/status/78300408417759233

Completely made up.

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by Derek Zona on Jun 8, 2011 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not Sold

I don’t know. I’ve only seen RNH is this past WHL’s playoffs and nothing i have seen has wowed me. My gut tells to pass on him(I’m only a fan so I am allowed to go by my gut reactions).

I do admit though that me dismissing this kid could very well come back to bite me in the fingers in a few years time.

by Metal&Oil on Jun 8, 2011 1:07 PM MDT reply actions  

I posted elsewhere that this is exactly what I want to see happen on draft day!

by Metal&Oil on Jun 8, 2011 2:34 PM MDT reply actions  

Wonder if Colorado is sandbagging the Oilers with their RNH love and SC criticism. Guess we’ll find out if they take Coutorier #2.

by Henry B on Jun 8, 2011 2:38 PM MDT reply actions  

I just don’t see Couts as the 2nd best player in the draft. Also, ANOTHER center?

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by Mike @ MHH on Jun 8, 2011 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

what happened to BPA arguement if he really is the 2nd best/best player in the draft.
Meh I dont know wht separates Landeskog ahead of Larsson. Colorado could really use a stud on blue line too.
And then get someone like Armia with the 11th pick. I dont think the difference in offensive ceiling is that much when it comes to Armia and Landeskog, but there is a bigger difference between Larsson and Beaulieu

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by SumOil on Jun 8, 2011 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

Dmen take forever to develop, and they just picked up former 1st overall pick Erik Johnson who is their franchise blue line prospect. They have depth at C but are weak on the wing, and need a power forward type to replace Chris Stewart.

All signs point to Landeskog.

by Ca$h-Money! on Jun 8, 2011 4:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

What if Oilers select Larsson? Then will Colorade select RNH?
I am just curious. TIll what point you consider need to be superior to BPA. UNless you really think Landeskog is BPA at 2 then this question is moot.

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by SumOil on Jun 8, 2011 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

If the Oilers go with Larsson, RNH will be wearing an Avs jersey for photos that day.

Landeskog is the perfect fit for the Avs, but RNH’s skill is too great to ignore. My bet is they’d choose him in a heartbeat and deal with our 7 centers later. BPA has RNH over Landeskog.

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by andidee15 on Jun 8, 2011 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Philly has approximately 37 centers in their lineup, they’ve survived.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 9, 2011 8:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

This is what I think too. Centers can switch position to wing and are better off doing it early. All this too much centers argument doesnt jive with me. After all many juniors who were centers end up playing as wingers in the Nhl anyways.

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by SumOil on Jun 9, 2011 8:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

So you truly believe that Landeskog is the second best prospect in this draft.

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by SumOil on Jun 9, 2011 8:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

Am I the only person going “REALLY?” when the head scout says that Landeskog “has so much upside it’s scary”?

by Adam Dyck on Jun 8, 2011 6:33 PM MDT reply actions  

Before the ankle injury, Landeskog was the best draft-eligible CHL even strength scorer.

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by Derek Zona on Jun 8, 2011 6:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ya, I think the projections of him as a 3rd liner are undervaluing his potential. I say that as a guy that believes we shouldn’t select him, but someone else will certainly be pleased.

by Ca$h-Money! on Jun 8, 2011 7:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree they are wayy off-base
But one must ask whether or not Strome/ Huberdeau/ Couturier will be better offensive options.

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by SumOil on Jun 8, 2011 9:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Offensively? Probably. But the Avs are looking for more than just offense. They HIGHLY value intangibles like hard work and leadership qualities. Greg Sherman, our GM, went on later in the special to say that Ryan O’Reilly (or current 3rd line center) is one of the 3 players we will be building around for the next decade along with Duchene and Johnson. O’Reilly has one of the most phenomenal work ethics I think I have ever seen, and he does have a lot of offensive up-side even though he takes care of his end of the ice first. But right now, he’s a 3rd line guy. That’s how highly this club thinks of character and compete.

Landeskog strikes me as a player that’s very similar to O’Reilly in that respect. Everything I’ve read/seen on him says he’s a hard worker with great leadership skills. And it’s not like he’s going to be an offensive liability either. He’ll put up the points. Maybe not as many as the others, but enough. He goes to the net, he shoots, and he sticks up for his teammates. Put him with Duchene or Stastny and good things will happen. Add all of that together, and my bet is that you’ve got the makings of a #2 selection in the eyes of the Avalanche.

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by andidee15 on Jun 8, 2011 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

It’s so close, you might aswell select the guy who also brings leadership, grit, and plays the position you are weakest at.

I mean, I’m all for the BPA argument, but if it’s that close I say pick for need at a certain point. With all the questionmarks surrounding Couter, Landeskog just makes sense.

by Ca$h-Money! on Jun 8, 2011 9:29 PM MDT reply actions  

What are all these question marks? The only ones that comes to mind is “the scouts don’t like him” and his slow speed off the start.

by Adam Dyck on Jun 8, 2011 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

Right, all of the scouts don’t like him, including the scouts from Colorado in the clip.

Look, I’m not saying he’s bad, but ignoring the fact that all the pro’s that have seen him don’t think he is the cream of the crop has to mean something, at least when we are comparing him to the other people in the cream of the crop. He’ll have an NHL career, no question in my mind, but the question here is:

Landeskog (a player that fills a positional need, has great stats, and is loved by every pro scout that has seen him)

vs.

Couturier (a player that doesn’t fill a positional need, has great stats, and isn’t loved by every pro scout that has seen him)

by Ca$h-Money! on Jun 8, 2011 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

For the Avs, slow speed is a pretty big concern. As is the fact that he doesn’t always seem to come to compete. They did say that may be because of his insane TOI, but even just a tiny doubt in their mind about his work ethic on the ice is enough to steer them away from him with #2.

They draft for “skill, character and compete” above everything else. From what I took from the show, they think Couts will be good, but I don’t think it will be with Colorado.

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by andidee15 on Jun 8, 2011 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

Seemed like they were questioning his drive / compete level.

by oilerdiehard on Jun 9, 2011 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that seems to be written between the lines in BOLD CAPS.

Mind you, the early book on Mario Lemieux said much the same thing.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 9, 2011 11:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, there are no reasonable questions about Couturier except for the mono-related ones i.e:

Something like 5% of people who get mono end up with weakened immune systems, become fatigued easier, etc (don’t quote me on this, I read something like it a few months ago, actually in an article about Couturier). So the long-term effects of the mono could worry some teams. But I don’t think it should; I would take a chance that this 18-year old will be absolutely fine like the majority of people who get mono.

by Metzfan22 on Jun 9, 2011 3:30 PM MDT up reply actions  

Henry B

Actually if a high school kid makes it through four or five dozen major junior hockey games at 30 minutes a night in the few months after infectious mononucleosis that is quite an accomplishment. It says a lot to me about his drive and determination. Doing it knowing everyone is watching/scouting/crtitisizing every shift says even more. Over 100 points and +55 looks pretty damn fine. Maybe his skating isn’t up to an NHL star’s level, I don’t know, but this kid is good.

The virus behind mono takes a while to beat and calming down the immune response to it even longer but that is weeks to months. Outside some very rare cancers long term complications pretty much aren’t a concern. He just joins the 95% of us that have been infected.

by Henry B on Jun 9, 2011 5:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

Something like 5% of people who get mono end up with weakened immune systems, become fatigued easier, etc

I’m in the 5% group, so the word "mononucleosis" is a huge red flag. My energy level was never the same after I had mono as a teen. Both my mom and older sister say so, it’s not just me.

Personal bias based on personal experience, but I would tend to shy away from the kid with mono. Oilers’ experience with Marc Pouliot did nothing to dissuade me from this viewpoint.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 9, 2011 7:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

And if anyone is curious what else was said...

Here’s a link to the video and the transcript.

Best of luck to the Oilers in the draft! It will be interesting for sure to see how all of this turns out.

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  10. Dallas Stars (18-22, .450)
  11. Anaheim Ducks (14-19, .424)
  12. Edmonton Oilers (18-25, .419)
  13. Calgary Flames (13-21, .382)
  14. Columbus Blue Jackets (14-31, .311)
  15. Minnesota Wild (8-22,.267)

Eastern Conference

  1. Pittsburgh Penguins (31-13, .711)
  2. Boston Bruins (27-11, .711)
  3. New York Rangers (25-16, .610)
  4. Philadelphia Flyers (21-17, .553)
  5. New Jersey Devils (18-16, .529)
  6. Ottawa Senators (19-17, .528)
  7. Washington Capitals (20-19, .513)
  8. Montreal Canadiens (16-19, .457)
  9. Winnipeg Jets (15-19, .441)
  10. Buffalo Sabres (14-18, .438)
  11. Carolina Hurricanes (13-17, .433)
  12. Florida Panthers (14-19, .424)
  13. Toronto Maple Leafs (17-24, .415)
  14. New York Islanders (8-23, .258)
  15. Tampa Bay Lightning (10-30, .250)

Division Standings

  1. Central (79-58, .577)
  2. Atlantic (68-50, .576)
  3. Pacific (62-54, .534)
  4. Northeast (69-65, .515)
  5. Northwest (49-69, .415)
  6. Southeast (51-81, .386)


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Columnists

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Contributors

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