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Smytty's Back

The Edmonton Oilers completed their second Ryan Smyth trade of the weekend earlier today, sending their 7th round pick in 2012 and Colin Fraser to Dean Lombardi's Los Angeles Kings in exchange for the man with the mullet. The trade is a good one for all parties with the Kings getting the cap space that they need, Smyth getting to come back to Edmonton where he wants to be, and the Oilers getting a player that obviously fits in with what the team needs at this time. So in some ways, it's surprising that the deal was so hard to complete, but credit where due, Steve Tambellini understood his negotiating position well and managed to do better here than I would have for sure. I'm not sure what the original asking price was from Lombardi, but I guarantee you that "worst possible draft pick and player I don't want" wasn't it. It's unfortunate that Gilbert Brule had to be traded an untraded in the process, but in the end, I'm confident that Steve Tambellini handled this situation very well.

Of course, the Oilers didn't just get a hockey player back with this trade. I still remember the day that Smyth was sent away, and it seemed at the time like the Oilers lost their identity too. Of course, a lot has changed since Smyth left: just two players remain on the roster, the coaching staff is completely different, the training staff is completely different, and the Edmonton Investors Group has been replaced by Daryl Katz. Still, I can't shake the feeling that the return of Smyth is really the return of "my" Oilers.

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Vic Ferrari told a great story a week or so back on Pat's blog (it's the first comment) that was simply fantastic, and because I don't think it spoils too much of the story, and may encourage you to read it if you haven't already, I'll just say that Ryan Smyth was my Daphne too. Of course, my response was quite different, a step away from fandom and toward a more honest engagement with the game that seeks to understand more of what's happening. A 5-0 blowout is now an opportunity to see how the game changes rather than a reason to turn the damn T.V. off since we aren't winning this one anyway, which isn't to say that I'm ambivalent about the Oilers winning and losing, just that the emotional connection isn't really there.

That emotional connection is easy to have in one's youth, so it was never a problem then, but as I got older, I came to value the connection I'd made with particular players, and the guy in that regard was Smyth. Whether it was Coffey or Gretzky or Messier or Weight or Joseph, it seemed like the best Oilers always moved along, and those that didn't - your Greggs and Niinimaas - were sent to the glue factory. Ryan Smyth was going to be different, the beloved Oiler who would stay his whole career. When that didn't happen, my emotional connection to the team diminished, and I realized it was missing bit by bit as time wore on. Her article spoke loud and clear the first time I read it, but every time I revisit Ellen's wonderful article, it speaks again:

Hockey teams do not, generally speaking, have souls, nor do they need them. Players, maybe, have souls, but their souls, their hearts, are entirely their own- their passion remains theirs, exclusively, we just get to watch it. For the players, for the management, and especially for the fans, it is sufficient that the team be comprised of talented, committed individuals who can play an exciting game and win regularly. Those are the only real functions of a hockey team: to play, to entertain, and to win, and they can be accomplished easily with a revolving-door roster and some cagey managing.

 

Nevertheless, sometimes, something happens to take root in the erg, and sometimes, equally rarely, some hockey teams develop a soul. There is no consistent pattern or predictability or process to how it happens. It is sheer luck, or fate, if you believe in that sort of thing. Some patch of sand stays solid enough, long enough, the right seed lands there at the right point in the season, and eventually there’s a tree where there absolutely shouldn’t be. And it hangs on in that spot, spreads out its roots, stabilizes the surrounding sand, and it becomes a place. People notice it, remember it, travelers use it to navigate, playing children use it as a meeting spot, tourists take pictures of it. It is only a tree, nothing very remarkable in the wide world, but in the context of the erg it’s an attraction, an object of fascination and interest. It is the only place that is actually a place, that was there yesterday and will be there tomorrow.

The Edmonton Oilers have looked like a blank desert for a long time now. Today, at least for me, the team looks just a little bit more like a place I know, a place I love, and a place that I can come back to. Welcome back, Smytty.

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Scott you nailed it with this line:

I can’t shake the feeling that the return of Smyth is really the return of “my” Oilers

Success is not a goal..its a byproduct

by SumOil on Jun 26, 2011 4:51 PM MDT reply actions  

double triple qouadruple rec!

Success is not a goal..its a byproduct

by SumOil on Jun 26, 2011 4:59 PM MDT reply actions  

The sentimentality is off the charts and brings the Oil closer to playoff contention… still, this is one high paid sentimental player!

by Czechboy on Jun 26, 2011 5:52 PM MDT reply actions  

see if we were a cap team, then there would have been concerns. But our owner is not cheap and we have tons of cap room. Then why not put some sentiments in it too?

You should seriously read Vic’s comment which scott has linked to. You would inderstand.

Success is not a goal..its a byproduct

by SumOil on Jun 26, 2011 5:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

What makes you think I haven’t read the comments? 6.5 for a guy past his prime who is 35 years old and no longer even selected by Team Canada. For 2 million I’d be all over this. Also, if our owner is so rich then please god go overpay some Free Agents in their prime. I’m also sure that Smitty is coming back for more money then we offered him for when he was an amazing Oiler. Hope I’m wrong… hope he gets 60 points, 25 goals and you can point it out to me.

by Czechboy on Jun 26, 2011 6:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind that he’s making $4.5M in real dollars next season. I don’t think the Oilers could get a player as good as Smyth for that price in free agency at this point, especially if they wanted to keep the term short (I think it’s reasonable to expect Smyth to get about 20 goals and 50 points assuming he plays some on the 1PP). Even if you ignore the sentimentality, I think this is a great deal for the Oilers.

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by Scott Reynolds on Jun 26, 2011 6:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

1PP is a big assumption with Hall competing for that ice time. I would think its more realistic for Smyth to get 2PP time from Paajarvi.

Assuming RNH goes back to red deer, I would expect the lines to be

1st line and 1st PP: Hall – Horcoff – Eberle

2nd line and 2nd PP: Smyth – Gagner – Hemsky

Omark gets PP time when Hemsky gets his (inevitable) injury or is traded

by gcw_rocks on Jun 27, 2011 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

The Oilers PP was pretty crappy last season, so I don’t see much reason not to change it. I’d probably try something like Hemsky, Omark, Hall, Smyth, and Whitney and see what they can do with that.

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by Scott Reynolds on Jun 27, 2011 10:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well said, rec’d.

The Edmonton Oilers - All we do is win!!

by OilLeak on Jun 26, 2011 8:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

yep

That about sums it up alright.

;__;

Weeping manly tears for Smyth’s return.

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by Temujin on Jun 26, 2011 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

holy smokes

It went green. I’m extremely honoured. :)

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by Baroque on Jun 27, 2011 7:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

Welcome home, Ryan Smyth. Edmonton missed you. :)

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by Baroque on Jun 26, 2011 6:03 PM MDT reply actions  

Of course, my response was quite different, a step away from fandom and toward a more honest engagement with the game that seeks to understand more of what’s happening.

Interesting, and it might be the same. However, I think the post 2006 playoffs teardown kicked that whole process off.

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by Derek Zona on Jun 26, 2011 7:44 PM MDT reply actions  

Yeah, the “problem” for Vic and Rivers is that they were already doing that. For me, it was a new and oddly exciting way of looking at the game. For them, it was just keeping on.

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by Scott Reynolds on Jun 26, 2011 8:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think Spacek walking away and replacing him with Tjarnqvist was what sent me over the edge.

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by Derek Zona on Jun 26, 2011 8:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

I thought he replaced Pronger….

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by dawgbone98 on Jun 27, 2011 8:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

I remember those days well. Spent a LOT of time on Oilfans and then HF and then the Smyth trade went down and… well… I started a blog.

I think, for me, my troubles with Oiler management all started with the Weight trade.

Wait. That’s not right. My issues started when I did my first draft retrospective on the Oilers (first posted on Oilfans in 2000 I think) and I showed, pretty conclusively, that the Oilers had HUGE issues in their scouting department and had chosen not to address them over a span of 15+ years. Which indicated to me that the team wasn’t well managed (I was doing some reading on internal audit back then if I recall). The Weight trade started to get me ornery and the 2006 tear down was just… epic.

It was funny reading some of Scott’s draft stuff recently – as this is something I wrote back in 2007:

It is interesting that the Oilers haven’t touched Finland since the Niinimaki blow out and in, what appears to be, a COMPLETE reversal of policy the team has drafted 8 Swedes in the last 7 years. In all of the 22 years prior… 3. Wow. It’s like magic.

 
I may have to write another draft history piece one day. Thing is something like 18 posts though… and then there will be the inevitable diagreement with Bruce over the importance of Jaroslav Pouzar’s career when only looking at his NHL numbers… :-)

by Jaysen Knight on Jun 27, 2011 1:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

What is the Jaroslav Pouzar debate?

by Czechboy on Jun 27, 2011 8:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

There’s no debate unless somebody dares intimate that Pouzar was some sort of bit player or afterthought.

We got him near the end of his great career, but he made a nice contribution to the Oil.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 28, 2011 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

The day before Ryan Smyth got traded I flew south to sign back on to work on Cruise ships, and although communications at sea had improved considerably by then, I never realized the rage and betrayal felt by fans. I knew what happened, yet I had no idea the enormous effect it had upon people. When I settled back into town a couple of years later it had all seemed to have passed, and I had been able to follow the Oil close enough to know they were awful and didn’t really think back much on the Smyth trade.

Those links were to amazing articles (I really like Vics second post at that link too!), and taught me something I never knew. Thanks so much for that.

Welcome back Ryan. I have a feeling your money is no good at many places in the city, especially if I’m around.

by Mesmer on Jun 26, 2011 8:03 PM MDT reply actions  

Nice read Scott, and Vic’s was something, hey?

For those worried about anything to do with Smyth, it doesn’t matter. Not money, not age. It’s not even about the team regaining heart. It’s more than that, as Scott said it’s about the team regaining it’s soul.

For those old enough to have followed the team from it’s entry to the NHL to now, we have gone from the huge rush of being likely the best team that’s ever been, with the best player that’s ever played, and then on a long painful journey with very few respites (2006). Pocklington, money trouble, maybe losing the team, watching the slow destruction, few successes, the politics of EIG, mostly good players leaving and not many good coming in.

Other than the original group of players, only two others for me really defined the team and carried the standard of what it meant to be “Oiler” – Doug Weight and Ryan Smith. I posted toward the end of last season that they should try to get Weight back, but of course now he’s finished.

When Smyth was let go, we were left with no connection to our legacy, to our past, to the team that was so great and made us so proud and helped define a city.

This is an amazing thing, like the prodigal son returning, and their will be a joyous feast.

Welcome home son.

by FastOil on Jun 26, 2011 10:29 PM MDT reply actions  

This is an amazing thing, like the prodigal son returning,

No, not at all. I was waiting for someone to use this, though. This is the opposite of the prodigal son story.

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by Derek Zona on Jun 26, 2011 10:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

To me it is more reminiscent of the old man, lying on his death bed, realizes how foolish and stubborn he’s been and finally reconciles with the son he disowned for so long.

by TakeoutArtist on Jun 27, 2011 8:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well Derek, thanks for that. Technically you may be correct, but not in regard to the feelings it seems to be widely creating amongst just regular old fans.

I guess we could discuss the finer points of his resigning falling through, but I wasn’t looking for a theological debate.

I’ll make sure to be more literarily precise and less banal next time.

by FastOil on Jun 26, 2011 11:10 PM MDT reply actions  

I’ll make sure to be more literarily precise and less banal next time.

It’s not about precision, but the entire story is the exact opposite of what happened here. Team cut son loose, the team wasted all of the money, the team realized their mistake and the team (maybe) repented and brought the son back.

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by Derek Zona on Jun 27, 2011 6:24 AM MDT up reply actions  

Player takes bad advice from agent or lets stubborn pride allow him to walk away from team of many years over small (relatively speaking) dollars, player gets big bucks from high profile team, new team craters, player gets traded to LA, realizes the grass isn’t greener and player repents and asks to return “home”.

You can spin it both ways.

by gcw_rocks on Jun 27, 2011 9:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Smyth is still a good hockey player. That’s what matters most to me.

I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t fond of Smyth or even if I said he wasn’t my favourite Oiler. However, what was really crushing about him leaving was realizing that management had no clue. They dropped the ball big time from a pro scouting perspective when they decided on the Pronger package and now they made another crippling hockey decision.

Later on, this would be a trademark of Oilers management – send the good ones away and keep the bums, or better yet find more of them.

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by RiversQ on Jun 26, 2011 11:59 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

I’ll finish that thought.

As a fan, it’s almost impossible to have hope when there is no management. No players or draft picks can fix that.

Does getting Smyth back change any of that? I’d like to think so, but I’m a cynic and one move isn’t enough.

by RiversQ on Jun 27, 2011 12:02 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

So true, but at least we have another bright spot to look forward to next season that might ease the pain a bit of what is likely another impending disaster.

Might be able to finish a few more games.

by FastOil on Jun 27, 2011 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Does getting Smyth back change any of that? I’d like to think so, but I’m a cynic and one move isn’t enough.

Agreed. This was easy because it was served on a platter. Cutting Jacques and Khabibulin loose, signing real NHL players, moving Cogliano to a wing, not overpaying Brule and Jones – if they start to do those things, there is hope. I don’t believe they’re going to do those things.

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by Derek Zona on Jun 27, 2011 6:22 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Here’s the trick – and this is partially in response to Lisa’s great piece posted just after this one – it’s EASY for the Tambellini to look good right now.

I repeat – this is the EASY part.

That is why I don’t give too much credit to what is happening right now (though I am legitimately thrilled to see Smyth back) – the picks are easy to make and only an idiot wouldn’t have noticed/learned from Mad Mike’s mistakes. On talent alone this team will probably make the play-offs for several years (maybe as early as next year) but a good GM should be able to take this rebuild and make of it a perennial CONTENDER for the Cup.

I haven’t seen those kinds of moves out of this group. Yet. And almost ever.

by Jaysen Knight on Jun 27, 2011 1:35 AM MDT reply actions  

Lowe did build the 06 team. It was well built for playoff hockey obviously. Like you are saying, his inability to keep it together, and the clumsy way it was dismantled really makes it hard to have confidence or give him credit.

For every good thing they do, it seems very closely followed by something disturbingly foolish.

ST’s beaming and grinning at the draft bothers me. I suppose he is being friendly which is good, and he warmly welcomes the draftee at the podium when he calls the name. Still, it comes across that he is not aware that drafting first is not a feather in his cap, especially consecutively, or that it gives the Oilers special status, but is a sign of massive failure.

by FastOil on Jun 27, 2011 10:04 AM MDT reply actions  

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