Dual Offer Sheets Can Accelerate A Rebuild
The concept of a dual offer sheet is simple: send offer sheets to two separate restricted free agents currently employed by the same team, especially when that team is in some amount of cap distress. Essentially, you are forcing a team to make a choice between their assets.
Article 10.4 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement [Warning, PDF link] covers the compensation levels and draft pick requirements for offer sheets:
Clubs must use their own draft picks (being those awarded directly to the Club by the League for use by it in the Entry Draft, including such draft picks described in the first clause of this parenthetical that a Club has traded or encumbered, and subsequently re-acquired or unencumbered.) Clubs cannot acquire picks to use as compensation (with the exception being a Club's own draft selections that are traded and then re-acquired).
Article 10.4 also outlines that the selections must be available the following season:
- Clubs owing one (1) draft selection must have it available in the next draft.
- Clubs owing two (2) draft selections in different rounds must have them available in the next draft.
- Clubs owing three (3) draft selections in different rounds must have them available in the next draft.
- Clubs owing two (2) draft selections in the same round, must have them available in the next three (3) drafts.
- Clubs owing three (3) draft selections in the same round must have them available in the next four (4) drafts, and so on
Below are the estimated salary ranges and corresponding compensation for 2010-2011:
| Salary Range | Compensation | |
| $ 1,034,249 | No Compensation | |
| $ 1,034,249 | $ 1,567,043 | 2012 3rd round pick |
| $ 1,567,043 | $ 3,134,088 | 2012 2nd round pick |
| $ 3,134,088 | $ 4,701,131 | 2012 1st round pick, 2012 3rd round pick |
| $ 4,701,131 | $ 6,268,175 | 2012 1st round pick, 2012 2nd round pick, 2012 3rd round pick |
| $ 6,268,175 | $ 7,835,219 | 2012 1st round pick, 2012 1st round pick, 2012 2nd round pick, 2012 3rd round pick |
| $ 7,835,219 | 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 1st round picks. | |
By navigating the salary ranges and compensation a General Manager could send two offer sheets and risk his 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks in the 2012 draft. An offer sheet between $1,567,043 and $3,134,088 would require a 2nd round pick as compensation. An offer sheet between $3,134,088 and $4,701,131 would require a 1st and a 3rd round pick as compensation.
The best way to make sure the strategy makes an impact is to target teams who are either cash poor or cap-strapped with two worthwhile RFAs and force that team's General Manager to make a decision. Below is a list of teams with financial issues and attractive RFAs.
Chicago Blackhawks
Michael Frolik ($1,275,000)
Troy Brouwer ($1,025,000)
- The Blackhawks 2011-12 payroll has already cleared $54 million and they only have 16 players under contract. In one of the most mind-blowing trades at the deadline, Stan Bowman was able to land Michael Frolik from the Panthers in exchange for Jack Skille and $24 of trinkets. Frolik is the goods. Through his first two years in the league, he took on the tough minutes next to Stephen Weiss and beat them while scoring 20 goals He's skilled and physical and hasn't entered his prime. A offer sheet worth $3.5-3.75 million would be ideal for Frolik. Brouwer, on the other hand, is a physical wing capable of scoring goals and playing a supporting role to skilled linemates. Brouwer has played sparingly on the penalty kill in Chicago, but he's been solid in those limited minutes. An offer for $1.6 million per season would fit with the offer to Frolik.
New York Rangers
Ryan Callahan ($2,300,000)
Brandon Dubinsky ($1,850,000)
- It's Déjà vu all over again in New York. Brandon Dubinsky and Ryan Callahan were part of the initial inspiration for the concept of dual offer sheets and two years later, as the Statler Brothers would say, Here We Are Again. Dubinsky and Callahan have improved by an enormous amount since then and the two of them still make up the ideal targets for a dual offer sheet. In George Ays' wonderful breakdown of both Dubinsky and Callahan we learned that they are both extremely valuable players with Dubinsky carrying more offensive ability and Callahan carrying much more ability on the penalty kill. Ays' predictions on both Dubinsky and Callahan were nearly bang on last season. The Rangers' payroll is $42 million and the rumor is that they are trying to make a run at Brad Richards. If Ays is right, and Dubinsky is a 60 point+ guy going forward (note the caveat about shot totals was fulfilled) he's worth $4 million. If Callahan is going to post 50 points per year and continue his superior work on the power play, he's worth $3 million. It's worth noting that Callahan was a Tom Renney favorite and vice-versa.
Winnipeg Somethings
Zach Bogosian ($3,375,000)
Andrew Ladd ($2,350,000)
- Winnipeg isn't in any sort of cap distress, but the Oilers could make life miserable on their future division rivals by either pushing the signing cost up or stealing an extremely talented player out from underneath the Winnipegs. At the age of 20, Bogosian is still just a baby in defensive years, but the Thrashers paid for his development and now the Oilers could send him an offer sheet and avoid development costs on a top-pairing defenseman who should be in the lineup for the next 10 years. Ladd is an even-strength killer and a penalty killing maven. He's also captain of the Winnipegs, so unless the offer sheet number is significantly higher than the Wininpegs are willing to go, he will be the least likely leave of any player mentioned here.
For a team like Edmonton, Long Island or Florida, teams exiting a rebuild, dual offer sheets make sense because they allow a rebuilding team to acquire a proven, young, veteran player for a reasonable return. Adding anyone of the above players to a rebuilding team's lineup gives them a talented veteran to lead a young core.It's time for my annual dual offer-sheet article in which I implore some sharp NHL General Manager to step into free agency and force his colleague's hands through the use of dual offer sheets.
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1) In two years, the Oilers have Hall, Eberle, Paajarvi, and Petry coming off entry level deals at the same time. That is requires a lot of cap space to reserve to defend AGAINST a multiple offer sheet attack. So one better be very careful how one spends cap space now (and be careful about setting internal salaries scales that will make it difficult to sign your own players in two years).
2) The Thomson family is wealthier than Katz. They also own a newspaper. I don’t know if it would be wise to get into a pissing contest with them. An amicable trade for Bogosian would probably be preferable to “hostile” action.
I’m not saying don’t do it, but one has to factor in ALL the potential indirect consequences also.
I might write an article some time this summer about this line of thinking. Mention offer sheets and invariably the response is something about revenge and shutting out trade partners. But it’s never happened. Teams can’t manage their franchise based on revenge.
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But it’s never happened
The Blues fired back (@ Steve Bernier) a week after Vancouver signed Backes to an offer sheet.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 21, 2011 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions
And Bernier is not good. See what managing by revenge gets you?
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I would love to read that. That was all we heard when Penner signed here and what ever came out of it? Nothing. A well managed team doesn’t manage out of revenge or fear, just what’s right for their club.
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but bad blood is almost always there. One can say that the RFA offers to Vanek and Penner was one of the reasons Lowe was removed as GM
Success is not a goal..its a byproduct
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Where in the world does this come from?
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If an NHL GM didn’t make a trade with the Oilers that would have benefited his team just because of the Vanek/Penner offer sheets then he wasn’t doing his job. If I’m a fan of that team I’d be pissed and if I was the owner I’d fire him.
My company recruits employees from other companies all the time, those companies don’t then spite recruit from us. I really don’t think that the NHL isn’t any different.
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One example you give is a bad idea because you don’t consider the consequences. And my post had nothing to do with worrying about revenge.
Winnipeg doesn’t have cap issues, and has an owner with deeper pockets than the OIlers. So it would be moronic to offer sheet Bogosian because that means you won’t get him. Once Bogosian is offer sheeted and Winnipeg matches, he because untradeable for one full season.
But because Bogosian had issues with previous management or coaching, there is a chance he still might have issues this year. And with the salaries committed to other defensemen in Winnipeg for the long term, and because that team has other holes, Bogosian might actually be an asset that one can trade for. An offer sheet would take him off the market.by the CBA for a full year. So it would be a dumb thing to do.
For a team with no cap issues, and an owner with deep pockets, as with Bogosian in Winnipeg, an amicable trade is the only means of getting him. Going hostile in this case would actually be counter-productive (because he might be available in a trade, and an offer sheet makes him untradeable).
But because Bogosian had issues with previous management or coaching, there is a chance he still might have issues this year.
There’s a chance he might strip down and skate around the rink during a line brawl, but it’s not likely either. Winnipeg’s management will be competent (or at least more competent that Atlanta’s) and isn’t going to trade Bogosian unless they get equal value or win the trade. If he’s not going to be traded, you put pressure on them and force them into a larger deal than they originally intended, soaking up cap space for later years when they might be competitive.
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The only way to get Bogosian is to trade for him. A trade is less likely now with new management. But the chance of getting Bogosian with an offer sheet is 0. An offer sheet for Bogosian would just make the Oilers look stupid.
An offer sheet for Bogosian would just make the Oilers look stupid.
Unless the goal was to get Ladd or drive the price for Bogosian up.
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While Skille for Frolik was a bit of a shock (I think the GM originally wanted to draft Skille, so Skille was his boy all along)…. the steal of that deal was Alexandar Salak. A very talented young Czech goalie who I think will be remembered for that trade more in the long run. Basically, I’m not even sure if Frolik was the best Czech in that trade yet alone player. And, obviously, I’m a big Frolik fan (although Czech coaching staffs seem to prefer him on the 4th line no matter how well he plays).
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by red army line on Jun 21, 2011 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Tallon’s love for Skille blinded him pretty bad on that trade. Can’t see that deal working out for him in the long run.
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Ays’ predictions on both Dubinsky and Callahan were nearly bang on last season.
I got lucky.
That said, I’m amazed you didn’t include Anisimov on the list as well. Also, you can’t have any of them.
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Anisimov did not really have that good a season. And I also think that NYR might part with him but Callahan and Dubinsky would/should be priority
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Anisimov did not really have that good a season.
Well, I mentioned because I know Derek loves him. But what do you mean he didn’t have that good season?
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by George E. Ays on Jun 21, 2011 9:25 AM MDT up reply actions
George, what rough dollar figures do you see the big 5 RFA’s in NY receiving, respectively (Dubinsky, Callahan, Anisimov, Gilroy, Boyle)?
by ranford4life on Jun 21, 2011 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Dubinsky/Callahan $7.5m between them (how it’s split, doesn’t really matter)
Anisimov $1.8-$2.3m (basically, somewhere between Dubi and Cally’s current contracts)
Gilroy – not going to get a qualifying offer. Maybe gets re-signed for 2 yr/$1m type thing, they have a lot of D though, they may just let him go.
Boyle – $1.5, +/- $250k. Might be less if he’s the guy Sather decides to unleash his RFA wrath on.
Not included: Mike Sauer – $1-$1.25m His lack of offense will keep his contract down, but $1m is still a ~100% raise. He earned it.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 21, 2011 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Anisimov had an outstanding season for his age and pedigree.
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Chicago would match the offer for Frolik.
The cap is set to be 64 million so they have 10 mill in cao space.
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Chicago would match the offer for Frolik.
So make them do it.
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I suppose that depends who Chicago wants to keep/add. They have $10mil in cap space with 16 players signed. Keep in mind that most of their potential wiggle-room is gone because $5.6M of their $6.4M (10%) summer cap-overage allowance is tied up in the one-way contract of Huet.
If they have their hearts set on a $2.5M offer to an aging depth player (like Madden a few years back), then they’ll have some difficult decisions to make.
Frolik is legit, but his counting numbers last year may cause CHI to balk at a $3M multi-year offer.
This same logic applies to the Rangers, who’s entire cap-overage allowance is tied up in Wade Redden. If they can’t move one of Drury or Redden, they’re in a tight spot with Duby, Callahan, Anisimov, Boyle, and Gilroy all needing new contracts.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 21, 2011 9:40 AM MDT reply actions
I agree conceptually with this idea, but I’m don’t think I’d risk losing a 1st as Edmonton at this stage.
I also find it interesting that you’ve chosen marks just at the low end of the compensation changes. (ie 1.6 and 3.5 for Brouwer and Frolik, rather than 1.5 and 3) Presumably the idea is that teams are more likely to take the picks if they are a little better. However, isn’t the idea here to obtain an asset cheaply by exploiting teams in bad cap positions? If Chicago can’t quite make the cap dollars work for Brouwer at 1.6, does going to 1.5 and giving them a second instead of a 3rd really make a difference? I suspect putting a 1st rounder in the package (especially Edmonton’s) would drastically increase the odds of a team not matching, but if you are expecting a team to be forced to let one of the two go, shouldn’t minimizing the picks lost be a priority?
I agree conceptually with this idea, but I’m don’t think I’d risk losing a 1st as Edmonton at this stage.
Edmonton with Dubinsky, Frolik or Bogosian + some low-cost, serviceable UFAs and a cheap veteran backup goalie and some health isn’t a lottery team, and any of those three guys is not only worth more than a non-lottery first rounder, it’s against the odds that a non-lottery first rounder will ever be better than any of those three.
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Only 1 Offer Sheet Allowed at a Time?
That’s an interesting idea with the dual offer sheets, but I always thought that only one offer sheet could be tendered by a team at any given time when the same picks are in play. I figured this would prevent a team from doing exactly what’s being proposed here.
Exactly what I was thinking. Otherwise what would happen if the offer sheet was successful with both players?
by Peacecountry on Jun 21, 2011 10:58 AM MDT up reply actions
I was wondering that myself – what if the other team called their bluff.
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You’d lose your 2nd rounder on the lower offer sheet and your 1st and 3rd rounders on the larger offer sheet.
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You can offer them provided you have the picks to do it (your own picks).
If you have your picks from rounds 1-3 you could offer:
Player A 1.567 – 3.134 mil/season (2nd round pick as compensation)
&
Player B 3.134 – 4.701 mil/season (1st & 3rd round pick as compensation)
You can’t offer 2 players an offer sheet that involve the same picks.
In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!
I even linked to the rules governing this.
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I think it’s a clever tactic, but given that the NHL is essentially still an old boys network, and the damage the Penner sheet did to Lowe’s and possibly ST’s ability to deal, trading or UFA’s would be better.
I think for an NHL GM good peer relationships is key to the team’s best chance for success, especially long term.
and the damage the Penner sheet did to Lowe’s and possibly ST’s ability to deal, trading or UFA’s would be better.
Edmonton has made a dozen trades since then.
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Nothing for a prime player without issues – age, injury etc.
The “rebuild” only went online after they found there was nothing out there for them. I think Lowe found himself on the outside and hired ST who may be there as well.
Chiarelli does deals for good players that don’t have a big overpayment as the only means of them happening.
The Oilers had a deal for Heatley in place that the player had nulled.
They acquired a pretty good defenceman in Vishnovsky.
Let’s be honest here, teams generally don’t trade for multiple prime players over a 4-5 year span. The Oilers essentially did it twice.
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True but like I said Vis was already old, so I guess Heatley was one.
As for teams not making deals, well that’s true, but the good teams are the ones who do, when the team needs improvement.
I want the Oilers to be one of the good teams again, so I hold them to a high standard. Following the pack into mediocrity isn’t enough, nobody should set that as their standard of success. If you fail, so be it, but doing nothing when things are wrong is not acceptable to me.
We’ll see what happens in terms of acquisitions when the picks start getting middlin’ again. There will be no way to claim rebuild at a certain point.
The Rangers combo of Cally & Dub is killer. That should be a slam-dunk for someone to exploit. If Winnipeg wanted to spend some cash, they could actually be a buyer in this process with a lot of cap room on hand.
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The kicker is, Callahan’s likely to be named captain w/ Drury doing whatever it is he’s doing. So I really don’t think $3m gets him to sign an offer sheet elsewhere, and I guarantee Dubi won’t do so for $3m. So they’re actually not very good candidates for the dual offer, they’re both going to be looking at 1st/3rd level money.
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by George E. Ays on Jun 21, 2011 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Love the idea I think it would really work for some, I would never give Dubinsky the offer sheet of 4 million, not because he isn’t worth 4 million (4 mill isnt a bad deal) but because he isnt worth the 2012 1st rounder. I would ove to have him though if we could work a trade for his rights.
Would love to offer Bogosion 3.1 million because if he only cost us a second round pick that would be unreal, I think Bogosion is a likely trade target because he will fetch more then a 2nd round pick but there is no way Winnipeg will want to pay him 3 million a year.
, I would never give Dubinsky the offer sheet of 4 million, not because he isn’t worth 4 million (4 mill isnt a bad deal) but because he isnt worth the 2012 1st rounder.
You believe the 2012 first-rounder will be a lottery pick?
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Ya I think it has a good chance to be, I hope it isn’t and if that’s the case Dubinsky is worth a first, he is a perfect center for the Oilers, he does it all. But the Oilers are a huge question mark for next season, with some solid signings and the 3 youngsters continuing to improve I think we are out of the lottery, add decent goaltending and limit the season ending injuries and the Oilers might compete for 8th in the West, alot of variables but all achievable but also none could happen so I would hang on the pick.
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by Passive Voice on Jun 22, 2011 2:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Aside from Yandle, who interests you?
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You could do something on the lower end with Boedker and Turris. Something like 2 years at 1.5 for Boedker and 2 years at 2.5 for Turris both frontloaded (say 2 / 1 and 3.3 / 1.7) to keep their qualifying offers down. Obvious overpayment but it adds a lot of talent at a pretty low cost and I’m not sure the Yotes would be too keen on spending over $5M on those two players next season.
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by Scott Reynolds on Jun 22, 2011 10:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, Boedker and Turris were the other two I was thinking of. But mostly I like the idea of tweaking a league-owned team.
by Passive Voice on Jun 22, 2011 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Last year was the year to mess with the Yotes..
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If they’re still owned by the NHL, every year is the year to mess with the Yotes.
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