Tom Gilbert - Unappreciated By Some, Recognized As Awesome By Others
Having read through the comments in the Tom Gilbert scoring chances post from yesterday I feel that I need to get something out of the way before I get started with this post just so that we're all on the same page going forward - Tom Gilbert is a damn good defenceman. If you don't agree with that assessment you might just want to consider reading something else because in all likelihood you won't enjoy reading this.
This season was yet another successful season in the evolution of Gilbert on the Oilers blue line. At 28 years old Gilbert has already played four full seasons in the NHL, totaling 337 games. Ryan Whitney is right now, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future, the best defenceman on the team but Gilbert has shown that he can without a doubt hold his own out there and is an adequate fill in for the top pair should Whitney be sidelined with an injury.
Aside from an ugly stretch where Gilbert was paired alongside Jason Strudwick, Gilbert was one of the better Oiler defencemen night after night playing tough minutes and coming out on the good side more often than not. This season saw Gilbert's point production drop to 26 points, down from 31 the season before, and his career high 45 in 2008/09. At the same time Gilbert set a personal low this season in terms of plus/minus with a -14, better than only Jim Vandermeer and Strudwick. Like his points, Gilbert's plus/minus has fallen year over year as well. In 2008/09 he recorded a +6, last year that dropped to -10, and this season it dropped again. So if his production is dropping and his plus/minus is getting worse how can I say that Gilbert is a good defenceman?
Well the plus/minus can be explained, at least partly, by looking at on-ice save percentages. Over the last three seasons Oiler goalies have gotten worse when Gilbert is in front of them; 0.913 to 0.909, to 0.889 this season. That on-ice save percentage isn't just low, it's terrible. Only Jeff Petry endured a worse save rate among Oiler defenders and there were only eight such numbers lower than Gilbert's in the entire NHL this season. If the goalie doesn't stop the puck at even strength there isn't much a player can do about that other than watch his plus/minus fall.
What about the points, those have been on the decline as well. Yes they have but while his points have been declining his minutes have been increasing. This season Gilbert lead the Oilers in total time on ice by a significant margin and his average of 24:30 per game is more than two minutes higher than his average last season. Those extra minutes aren't exactly the easiest available either; this season Gilbert's ice time again ranked as the toughest among the Oiler defenders. If the Oilers could cut his ice back to 22 minutes a night and give the responsibility of playing against the other teams best players I'm sure Gilbert would take more chances and his points would likewise increase but that just isn't an option right now. Considering the circumstances it's hardly surprising that Gilbert has seen a drop off in his point production.
Looking at Derek's post breaking down the Gilbert related scoring chances you can see that despite the tough minutes and reduced points Gilbert is still moving the puck in the right direction. Individually, Gilbert bettered the Oilers season average in every segment of the season that he wasn't paired with Strudwick. Looking at the numbers segment by segment he was below the team only two times; one of those times he posted a chance percentage of 51.8% (not exactly a terrible number), the other was Strudwick related. Individually the majority of Oilers were better with Gilbert on the ice with them than they were with him sitting on the bench.
So how is it that Gilbert is not unanimously loved by all Oiler fans? Look no further than hits. Listed at 6'3" 206lbs fans in Edmonton expect him to be physical. That physical play isn't part of his game doesn't matter. He's big, therefore, he should be physical. And if he's not going to play physical then we all know that Gilbert simply isn't tough enough to play effectively in the NHL.
But are hits really the best way to measure the effectiveness of a defenceman? Dion Phaneuf throws some big time hits and I'd rather have Gilbert on my team any day of the week. Nicklas Lidstrom is arguably the best defenceman we've seen in the last 20 years and he almost never hits. In the six post lockout seasons Lidstrom has 223 hits in 480 games, thats an average of 0.46 hits/game. That Lidstrom doesn't bang everything that moves could be a major reason why he is still as good as he is at the not so young age of 41. Is it unreasonable to think that a factor in Gilbert having missed just three games in his career is that he doesn't wear his body down throwing hits?
The hit totals aren't big but what is often overlooked is that Gilbert's season totals have increased every year he's been in the league. That leads me to conclude that Gilbert only throws a hit if it won't take him out of position and as he has becomes more comfortable with the speed of the NHL game he has taken the opportunity to throw more hits. I think he will continue to hit more but he'll never be Theo Peckham and that's just fine by me.
Focusing on hits as a measure of toughness also marginalizes what it takes to stand in front of an NHL caliber slap shot. I wouldn't do it I can guarantee you that. The most important thing about blocking a shot is that it means that the defenceman is in the shooting lane where he belongs, making it tough to score; in other words he's doing his job properly. And Gilbert is a shot blocking machine. In the NHL this season he ranked 11th overall and lead the Oilers for the second straight season. The only times Gilbert hasn't lead the Oilers in blocked shots he trailed just Steve Staios. How many fans ever questioned Staois' toughness?
To me it's clear that Tom Gilbert is already a very good defenceman for the Oilers and is only going to get better in the coming years. With a cap hit of $4M for three more seasons the Oilers have a key piece of their defense corps locked up at a reasonable price just as he's hitting his prime. I don't understand why some fans want to focus on what he doesn't do when there are some many things he does very well. Whether you want to belive it or not, Gilbert is a hell of a defenceman.
Prediction: With Whitney back in the lineup Gilbert's ice time should be cut back slightly. I think he'll average just over 23 minutes in the upcoming season. I'll go out on a limb and say the power play will be better - could it really be worse - and as a result Gilbert will see his points increase slightly, 5 goals and 25 assists for 30 points. He'll also average a hit per game and block more than two shots a night and somehow still be considered soft by some.
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I rag on him a lot but will admit that we would not be having this discussion if Lowe had not offered such a big contract for a player that had only proven to be a good Dman for one year. Gilbert is great at blocking shots and in other aspects but I think he gets more hate for the money he makes more then his lack of a physical element in his game. Him also playing 1st pairing minutes against the toughest competition did not help him ether.
I still don’t like the contract (Did we really need to give him that kind of money coming off of a rookie season???) and I think he is best suited for the 2nd defensive unit(we had no choice but to play him on the 1st this year).
Him also playing 1st pairing minutes against the toughest competition did not help him ether.
He was fine in that role with a healthy Souray and a healthy Whitney. He cannot play that role with Strudwick and Peckham – even Lidstrom would struggle in that situation.
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by ryanbatty on May 28, 2011 10:04 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
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by Lisa McRitchie on May 29, 2011 10:37 AM MDT up reply actions
Tritto, except for that I am crazy, and I play defence, and study advanced multivariable calculus
by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on May 30, 2011 1:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Isn’t all calculus multivariable?
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It has the potential to be, but not all of it is called that. They didn’t start using that term until my second or third year courses.
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by Lisa McRitchie on May 30, 2011 8:13 AM MDT up reply actions
It was easy for me to believe that Gilbert is a great hockey player, because he was always a personal favourite.
Honestly, Tom Gilbert is a capable first pairing defender. He spent all season against other teams’ very best, and he never had anywhere near a capable partner except for the time he spent with Whitney over the first twenty or so games. If we could count on a healthy Whitney to go with Gilbert, I would be comfortable running them out as a top pairing.
And honestly, he’s worth his contract. If I was GM, I probably would be willing to go as high as 5 or 5.5 before cutting lose a player like 77.
$4 million per season is NOT a big contract for a defenseman. It is basically the market rate for a competent veteran top 4 defenseman. Remember all but 1 of the years in Gilbert’s contract are UFA years.
I disagree. Unless you are a top pick and have a salary that is predetermined in a ELC contract then I don’t think you should be making more then $4M in your second NHL season unless you really blow everyone away in your first year and you could already be labeled as an elite player. Tom did have a good first NHL season but I hardly think he fit that bill after that one season.
The problem was his contract status. The Oilers certainly could have signed him to less money, but if they had done so if would have been on a one or two year deal, and then he would have been an unrestricted free agent. They decided instead to gamble on a longer term deal that was guaranteed to keep him in Edmonton for at least six years. I think that gamble has worked out quite well.
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by Scott Reynolds on May 28, 2011 8:22 AM MDT up reply actions
I don’t get trying to box players into a price range based on having only played one year. Is he living up to the $4M? Yes. And he’s improving which only makes the deal better. The Oilers gambled and won on this deal. I’m happy with it.
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by ryanbatty on May 28, 2011 10:01 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
The small one is Tom Gilbert…
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by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on May 27, 2011 11:56 PM MDT reply actions
Soft.
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by Benjamin Massey on May 28, 2011 10:42 AM MDT reply actions
Ummm.... I think over appreciated is more suited
This guy makes me cringe every time I see him touch the puck. Always a sense of urgency, could never be the player the oilers need him to be. Needless to say, get him out!
What do the Oilers need him to be?
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Peckham provides more
Peckham lead the Oilers in PM with 198(3rd in the NHL!!!), Lead the Oilers with 196 Hits(22nd in NHL!!) and finished 2nd on the team(To Tom Gilbert*) in blocked shot with 123(64th in the NHL !) all for $550, 000. That’s 3 NHL Top 75 category’s and 2 Top 25’s)
That $4M contract is ludicrous in my opinion.
So how is it that Gilbert is not unanimously loved by all Oiler fans? Look no further than third in the league in giveaways. A number that sticks out quite a bit when compared to his fellow leaders in blocked shots, other than Beauchemin and Schenn.
It’s a good thing the Oilers don’t have that bum Duncan Keith. What doesKeith think he’s doing blocking less shots than Gilbert and giving the puck away almost as much? Not to mention somehow having even fewer hits.
If they don’t want him I can think of 29 teams that probably would.
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And that couldn’t possibly have anything to do with the skewed RTS numbers in the NHL could it?
The statistician who tracks Oilers games hands out giveaways and takeaways like freaking candy. The Oilers had more home giveaways than they had road giveaways and takeaways combined.
The Oilers, according to NHL.com, had 73.6% of their giveaways at home.
Does that make sense to anyone?
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