The 2003 Entry Draft - A Tale of Fortune and Woe
In 2003 the Florida Panthers held the #1 pick in the draft. Already rich in goal with Bobby Lou, they got clever and made a complex trade with Pittsburgh that saw them flip the pick along with what would eventually be Daniel Carcillo for the 3rd overall pick and Mikael Samuelsson. In hindsight, this wasn't all that bad a trade. But if FLA were to have to chance to do it all over again, they might've operated differently.
Darren Dreger suggested yesterday that the Oilers might be looking to do the same thing. If you're like me you're lukewarm on both RNH and Larsson, and see an opportunity to add a greater volume of assets given our position. But what is the value that a #1 pick holds over a #4 or #5 pick, and is it worth it to degrade our return in favour of quantity over perceived quality?
The 2003 draft might be looked upon as an event that catapulted the Anaheim Ducks and Philadelphia Flyers into perennial playoff teams, and likewise has kept the Oilers, Panthers, and Blue Jackets swimming in the NHL toilet. I won't bore you with the details, but when you can draft 2/3 of the next decade's top line at #19 and #28 overall, someone powerful is smiling down on you.
The 2011 draft isn't nearly as stocked with generational talent. For all their strenghts, RNH is small, Larsson doesn't possess overwhelming offensive skill, and Sean Couturier may be the second coming of Chris Gratton. Assuming that you can fetch a quality C in Huberdeau or Strome at 5 or 6, what is a good trade that we might seek with the NYI or Ottawa to want to make this deal work?
In hindsight, given the depth of the '03 draft, FLA might've well considered trading their #1 to a team that could offer them a multitude of picks within that draft. Let's say that Philadephia had managed to acquire another mid-first round pick, FLA might've traded one pick for three, and we might've stocked our playoff pools with Panthers over the past couple of days.
Since 2011 doesn't seem to offer the same cachet, the Oilers should seek HIGH QUALITY prospects in return for the #1 pick. An exchange that nets them another second rounder, or someone destined to not be a top-6 forward or top-3 dman isn't worth the risk.
Example of a bad trade - Oilers swap picks with NYI, and also trade a 3rd rounder but get C Josh Bailey. Although he's young and the Oilers need a C, Bailey isn't a compelling enough talent to deal away a sure-thing like the 'Nuge.
Example of a good trade - Oilers swap picks with NYI, and also toss in their King's pick for Nino Nightrider (sp)? We'll still end up with a high quality C or with Dougie Hamilton, and another smash-mouth SOB top-6 winger.
The difference between the two is that the Oilers obtain an asset with a much higher chance of becoming a game-breaking player as compensation for moving down in the draft. Who knows, given that the Isles have found a gem in Grabner and given that they're likely lusting after a D-man like Larsson, this might be feasible.
Looking back on this draft, someone much talked-about will end up as the Nik Zherdev of this class ... although i doubt that player is RNH, Larsson, or Landeskog, there is a great opportunity to leverage our position to add several key assets to the re-build, but a huge risk in ending up with nothing if ST gets too excited over a lustrous object named Jared Cowen. I guess we'll see.
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What would the Cowen deal look like? Six is a long way down, but Cowen and the 6th for the Oil 1st and 31st would be worth exploring. What would Cowen look like next to Whitney or Petry? Pretty damn good, I would think. Knee is a bit of a worry though. If number six gets you Strome or Hamilton, I think you would have to look at the deal.
Considering that Jared Cowen is a slightly bigger version of Jason Smith I’d say this trade isn’t very good.
Defensive d-men are horribly over-rated in terms of impact. Yes they are nice to have but it’s not hard to find a guy to play 18-20 minutes who play well in their own end and don’t contribute offence.
In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!
I can't imagine Ottawa making that kind of deal, though
Bryan Murray’s said many times he’ll be taking the best player available. Larsson seems like the consensus guy to that end. So the Senators would be trading one of their best defensive prospects to draft… a defenseman? It feels like a lateral move to me. Sure, the Sens pick up a high second, but I genuinely don’t see the upside in Ottawa paying the price to move up to #1.
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I agree But if Murray, who’s GM skills are questionnable at best, put a deal on the table, you would have to look at it. Sadly, the only over the hill player we have of the Kovalev/Goncher ilk is Khabby, and even Murray wouldn’t want him now that Anderson is locked up.
We obviously disagree about Murray's GM skills, but I agree that if an offer from Ottawa is on the table, Edmonton has to consider it
I just don’t see the kind of offer you came up with as one coming from our GM.
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I think that the senators cant afford to do that.. unless they really believe they need a top guy that badly ( witch i dont think they do) i think they would be better of to stay at the number 6 spot and grab a guy like couturier or huberdeau with there 6th pick then draft a guy like I think its bodin? anyways iv heard alot of good things about his game and if the senators could get him here we could have gold on the blueline for years oooor tradable assets in the future

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