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PK Save Percentage in 2010-11 - Final Results

Much like in past seasons, earlier this year I looked at PK save percentage across the league to see who was performing well, and which teams might be benefiting from a goaltender who's been particularly hot on the PK and likely to regress during the push for the playoffs. Over a long period of time, goaltenders generally cannot sustain a PK save percentage higher than .900, but in one season, that kind of performance isn't uncommon. That doesn't, of course, mean that we should expect it to continue into the playoffs. So let's take a look at the year-end results and figure out which playoff teams might have been getting a bit of luck (or unusually in-the-zone performance) from their starting goalies.

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In the chart below, I've included all of the goaltenders who have faced at least 200 shots during the 2010-11 season. There were only twenty-eight goalies who met this criterion, and their average PK save percentage was .879, which is much higher than the longer-term trend, which suggests that (including all NHL goaltenders) average performance is closer to .866.  In the table below, I've used each benchmark, although I'm quite partial to the first one as being "average" for a starting goaltender. Here are the results:

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One of the things that we should note from the difference in this group's average and the longer term trend is that talented goalies really are better at this, and so while we do expect some regression to the mean, that regression would be to each individual's long-term trend rather than to a "league average" type number. It is interesting, however, to note that even though only twenty-eight goalies made this list, all sixteen playoff teams have a representative and none of those are in the bottom five. Also, Nikolai Khabibulin is so, so bad. Anyroad, let's take a look at the playoff goalies, and compare this year's results to some longer-term results:

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It's probably not super clear in the table, so I'll just say that the "Post 2007-08 Save %" column includes results from the 2007-08 season. Now, obviously, some of these goalies have more results than others. Michal Neuvirth, Corey Crawford, and Sergei Bobrovsky are all crowded together because they just haven't seen many shots. That said, none of those guys is blowing the doors off, so we shouldn't expect any of them to regress too much (with Neuvirth being the most likely to be an exception). On the other hand, a few of the more established goaltenders have had years way out of line with their longer-term-but-still-recent trend. Pekka Rinne, Jonathan Quick, Roberto Luongo, and Ilya Bryzgalov have all made their clubs look better than they probably are on the PK, and could well play well below their season performance in the playoffs, although with so few PK shots in a playoff series, it amounts to just one or two goals. Still, one or two goals ain't nothing, especially for teams like the Kings and Coyotes who need everything to go right in order to have a chance to win.

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By any chance, is the prize for coming last in regular season PK save% several cases of fine vodka? I was hoping that might account for what looks like a deliberate tanking by our MVP. I can’t believe how far adrift he is of the pack.

by Yeti# on Apr 12, 2011 7:49 AM MDT reply actions  

In fairness, it’s not exactly like the the exercise in futility that the Oilers PK strategy was for a fair chunk of the season was any help.

Khabibulin isn’t a very good ’keeper anymore, but the team he was playing in front of helped exasperate that.

by proxy on Apr 12, 2011 9:08 AM MDT reply actions  

Dubnyk played a fair amount behind that travesty as well.

Even as the PK improved to end the season, Khabibulin still put up awful numbers on the PK.

The Oilers PK did have some holes in terms of the plaers in front of the goaltenders, but Khabilbulin was a huge part of the PK woes this year. Dubnyk at least gave them a pretty good chance.

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by dawgbone98 on Apr 12, 2011 9:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the difference between Dubnyk and Khabibulin makes Khabibulin look inexcusably bad because all of those “shot quality” type explanations take a big hit.

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by Scott Reynolds on Apr 12, 2011 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

I realize this is intended to be about ‘the playoffs’…. But wow.

Starting Khabibulin over and over again, expecting a different result. What’s the definition of insanity again?

by CDA on Apr 12, 2011 9:20 AM MDT reply actions  

Is it bad that I instinctively scroll to the bottom to look for Khabibulin?

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by ryanbatty on Apr 12, 2011 10:08 AM MDT reply actions  

Great work by the Panthers to take some fantastic goaltending this season from Vokoun and turn it into a lottery pick. That takes some serious talent.

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by ryanbatty on Apr 12, 2011 10:11 AM MDT reply actions  

MVP! MVP!

If the team’s objective is to get high draft picks, It becomes really easy to see why Nik is the MVP on this team. Guy can single-handedly lose games for the Oilers on the PK alone. But how many is he really losing for the Copper and Blue, and what does it mean for the team?

Based on the 5V5 numbers at BTN, with MVP facing 27.3 evenstrength shots a game, and letting in 2.95 EV goals a game, that puts his EV sv% at ~.892. If we look at that over ths shot total at EVs (1280) we know that he let in 138 EV goals.

If memory serves, the replacement level NHL goalie has a sv% of .908. On the same number of shots, that goali only lets in 118 EV Goals. So that’s another 20 goals ReKhab lets in that the average NHL Goalie doesn’t.

I can’t beleive how aweful this one signing has made this team. 30 goals! That has to be worth at least 10 of the losses we took this year on its own, maybe more.

And before anyone else suggests part of this is the team, look at Dubnyk. Same team! .911 EV Sv%. Kids PK SV% is almost as good as Khabbi’s EV Sv%.

Another 10 wins (20 points) would put the Oilers in 23rd in the NHL —> still crappy, but not lottery crappy. Maybe Steve really does know an MVP when he sees one – this team doesn’t get nearly as good a pick in the draft without Nik.

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by Permaculture on Apr 12, 2011 10:31 AM MDT reply actions  

Something is a little off. The NHL has Khabibulin facing 1087 shots at EV (including 4-on-4) and has him with an EV Sv % of .905, which is still awful, but a whole lot better than .892. One things you should be careful with is the confusion of “replacement level” and “average”. I don’t know where you got “replacement level” at .908 but that sounds possible. Average is closer to .915 or .920 (at EV).

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by Scott Reynolds on Apr 12, 2011 11:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Of course! I was pro-rating the GA/60 and SA/60 for the number of GP. I didn’t see the EV SA or the EV GA on BTN, so just did what seemed to make sense. Really a silly mistake – not all games will be played at 5v5. So, of course the Shot# will be lower in reality than the one I posted.

I would love to see the 4v4 numbers – they aren’t at BTN, and I don’t see the NHL Numbers online for it. Must be pretty good to boost the 5v5 number so much.

As for the replacement level sv%, it’s a number I remember being tossed around on the blogosphere at some point in the last few years. The bar is already set pretty low around here for goalies, so I thought it would be more realistic to have a slightly lower number. If you want to use your numbers thats fine.

Thrust of the post remains the same – If you want to lose hard, MVP belongs to Nik.

by Permaculture on Apr 12, 2011 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hawerchuk looks at the sv% here and his combined number is .908, so presumably your .910-.915 is more accurate for EV S%.

I still want to know where you got the combined 5v5 & 4v4 number from.

by Permaculture on Apr 12, 2011 7:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

ALso, based on that methodology, the 30 goals would only be worth 10 points in the standings, putting the Oilers in a tie for 28th, instead of being 23rd. where I thought we were if those goals were worth more. I think that 3 goals is worth more than 1 standing point, but I’m not going to argue that right now.

by Permaculture on Apr 12, 2011 7:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Tyler’s study is getting a bit on the old side now, but he had .917 as the average EV Sv% from 1998-99 to 2007-08. If anything, it’s probably a bit higher now (although that depends a bit on how you calculate average).

The combined 5v5 and 4v4 total is how the NHL tracks EV Sv%, so it’s easy enough to find.

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by Scott Reynolds on Apr 12, 2011 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

So 9 goalies with at least 10 GP finished with a higher SHsv% than ESsv%…Braden Holtby, Kevin Poulin, Martin Biron, Mike Smith, Tomas Vokoun, Henrik Karlsson, Alex Auld, Andrew Raycroft, Nathan Lawson.

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by red army line on Apr 12, 2011 10:41 AM MDT reply actions  

I was curious as to why only 28 goalies so I looked deeper; with Roloson representing 2 teams but Edm having 2 on the list, i found TOR and NJD to be off the list. Toronto jumbled goalies a lot this season so its not to surprising, but Brodeur played the majority for the Devils.

He is ranked 20th in minutes played according to nhl.com, ahead of guys like Bobrovsky, Backstrom, Anderson, and others. He faced 196 shots against so he just barely missed this list.

Any thoughts to if that is a result of a better PK system in NJ?

Even if so, he didnt help out his team much, as he had a PK SV% .862 which would have placed him 23rd among that list. Not a good year for him.

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by VanillaAcid on Apr 12, 2011 1:03 PM MDT reply actions  

New Jersey is in fact very good at suppressing shots on the PK. They’ve also been one of the league’s least penalized teams for the last few years, and this year was no different.

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by Scott Reynolds on Apr 12, 2011 1:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

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