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Evgeni Malkin is out for the season with a knee injury. This is terrible news for a pro hockey player in the middle of his most productive years. On the other hand, a new opportunity has just popped up for the Oilers. You see, the way that the cap system works, is that if a player is put on long term injured reserve, his team is allowed cap relief up to his total salary. Effectively speaking, the Pittsburgh Penguins were up against the cap and now have Malkin's 8.7 million in cap space available for the rest of the year.

 Pittsburgh currently sits second in their division to Philly and second in points in the east with 72. Anytime you have Sidney Crosby on your team you are a threat to win the Stanley Cup. Ray Shero has a history of making moves to improve his team at the deadline.Pittsburgh is now in need of a top 6 winger. Preferably one that can fill the holes on either side of Sid that the Penguins have for ever been searching for.

Edmonton is in an opposite division and no where near the playoffs. Edmonton has 2 wingers in Dustin Penner and Ales Hemsky that would fit like a glove beside Sid.

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Before I go any further, I want to clarify my position here. What the Oilers really need going forward are veteran, outscoring players on good contracts. DP and Hemsky are exacty that. The problem is there is the distinct possibility of losing one or both of them to UFA at the end of next year. If Tambellini doesn't move them this year, and can't get them resigned next year, their worth on the market will be significantly less at next years deadline. According to the CBA, a contract renewal can't occur until the last year of the existing contract. So, there is no way of getting anyones name on a contract right now. This is the part that regular fan has no insight into. Will Penner and Hemsky be willing to resign next year? If the answer is yes, then the rest of this post is pretty much a moo point. It's also worth taking into consideration the ages of the players we are talking about. By the time Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Magnus Paajarvi and Linus Omark and the other prospects that are bubbling under are ready to contend in a few years, Penner and Hemsky will be on the downside of their careers. The injury to Malkin has opened up an interesting window that needs to be explored by both GM's.

Now let's talk about return.

Pittsburghs first round pick is likely in the 25-30 range. Edmonton already has a pick at 31. However, the Penguins have some very nice looking prospects.

The ideal return here is Jordan Staal. It's not happening. Teams with Stanley Cup aspirations don't trade away their second best forward. Especially if he is only 22 and signed to a nice contract. Here are some other interesting players.

Eric Tangradi (2nd round 2007 42nd overall) is a 20 year old 6'4" 230lb LW with a mean streak (seen here ragdolling Radko Gudas ) who is putting up nice numbers in the A and has had 11 games with the big club this year. He projects out as a 20-25 goal guy who takes the body and drops  the gloves. In other words, he is JFJ in Tambellini's world. 

Simon Despres ( 1st round - 2009 30th overall)is a 6'4" 225lb defenseman who is killing the Q right now. This is not a tremendous accomplishment for someone 19 years old, but still a big body D man putting up a point per game is pretty attractive.

Beau Bennett ( 1st round - 2010 20th overall) is a scorer who is having a nice first season at the NCAA level.

In the end, I don't want to see the Oilers trade away either Penner or Hemsky. However, Ray Shero could come up with a very attractive package involving some of these prospects and picks that would certainly be worth another 100 or so exciting last place hockey games from one or both of them.

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Tangradi has been completely underwhelming on a dominant team.

These moves do nothing but set the team back by at least two years and completely burns Hall and Paajarvi’s ELC.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2011 10:25 AM MST reply actions  

You could target a guy like Goligoski instead to get a real NHL body that is 25 years old with 170 NHL GP’s and better than a 0.5 PPG.

-He’s playing third pairing minutes EVs with lower-end competition and linemates
-2nd most TOI for D on the PP with a similar scoring rate to Letang on the PP (4.25 pts/60 vs 4.48 for Letang).
-He has the best +-ON/60 (~1.5) and third best Corsi Rel among the D core.
-Decent salary/status: He has another year at 1.8 and then is an RFA.

I’d say there is room for improvement, however he’s not that big: 5’11 and 180 according to NHL.com.

He seems to be about the only piece we could get from the Pens that wouldn’t be a huge step back for the team in terms of fielding a competitive unit. Although it’s still possible its a negative move even if they throw in some of their top prospects.

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by mindmasher on Feb 6, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Goligoski is a third-pairing defender on a good team. In fact, he’s a third pairing defender on a healthy Oilers team and that should tell you something.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2011 12:00 PM MST up reply actions  

How far ahead are they if Penner and/or Hemsky walk at the end of next season for zip.

by Matt.N on Feb 6, 2011 12:02 PM MST up reply actions  

To be honest you always have next years trading deadline to ensure return. It would likely not be as good as this years trading deadline,but it would still be OK. That would give you the opportunity to make a concerted effort to resign them.

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by mindmasher on Feb 6, 2011 12:04 PM MST up reply actions  

This opportunity of LTI cap relief for a Cup contender may not exist next year. Hockey trades don’t get made anymore, this is one situation where a deal doesn’t have to be made that is dollar in, dollar out.

by Matt.N on Feb 6, 2011 12:07 PM MST up reply actions  

I’m not sure what you are saying here. There will always be teams willing to pick up top 6 wingers. Do you thinktht we might be able to extract more from the Pens in this situation?

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by mindmasher on Feb 6, 2011 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

There is an opportunity to make a deal without equal cap hits getting exchanged. Most trade proposals you see making rounds that involve DP and AH have some kind of crappy contract coming back to help the other team fit under the ceiling.

by Matt.N on Feb 6, 2011 12:16 PM MST up reply actions  

Also, they would need to figure out space for the 4M next year regardless.

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by mindmasher on Feb 6, 2011 12:15 PM MST up reply actions  

also, I think I should get a pass for fitting Radko Gudas into a post.

by Matt.N on Feb 6, 2011 12:08 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

The announcer of that fight is a moron… not sure what he was calling.. he mentions Gudas never fights… yet, down that side there are 3 more Gudas Fights. He also mentions he was knocked out… I watched it a few times an dnever saw the punch connect.

by Czechboy on Feb 6, 2011 4:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Any post mentioning my man Radko Gudas gets a Rec from me!

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by Bruce McCurdy on Feb 7, 2011 4:00 AM MST up reply actions  

I am not really hot for Goligoski. We have a number of similar players on the roster. I would really ask for someone like Zbynek Michalek for Penner and/or hemsky. He is an actual Nhl body and not a prospect. He is capable of stepping in and make an immediate impact just like any of the two aforementioned forwards would.
Another reason why we wont get Jordan Staal is that they just lost Malkin who also was a center, though they did try to play him at wing. Furthermore, if they acquire Hemsky, I see Shero wanting his coach to use him as a Winger for Staal and using them against the other team’s top lines thereby letting Crosby feast on lesser opposition. Hemsky and Crosby don’t make sense on the same line as they would both like to carry the puck, but Staal and Hemsky would make a Hemmer+ Horcoff combo, where Hemsky carries the puck and Staal tries to bury it. Similarly, I think Penner will make more sense on Crosby’s line giving him all the space in the world to do his thang!

Rebuild is a convenient excuse for GMs who dont wish to do their jobs

by SumOil on Feb 6, 2011 11:33 AM MST reply actions  

I’m not really hot on the idea of adding an expensive Dman who just signed a deal from UFA. Then again I do tend to agree, Goligoski is an OK piece but certainly not great (unless he takes some steps forwards).

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by mindmasher on Feb 6, 2011 11:57 AM MST up reply actions  

You can certainly see how a deal would make sense from Pittsburghs point of view. Question is, can Tambo find a deal that makes sense for the Oilers.

by Matt.N on Feb 6, 2011 12:06 PM MST up reply actions  

idk Matt, what we want is staal, michalek, maybe letang. Basically the assets we would like is exactly what Shero might not want to part with. I think with Marincin/ Blaine and others, we have a good stable to D men in the Chl. What we would want are D men who are just in the right stag of developement to make an impact on the Nhl soon. That way a team lie Nashville makes sense…Blum + 1st or Blum + Franson..something like that.

Rebuild is a convenient excuse for GMs who dont wish to do their jobs

by SumOil on Feb 6, 2011 12:37 PM MST up reply actions  

knowing ST and his crappy 5year vision, it seems to me like he will be happy with a crappy 1st round pick and top prospect as you mentioned. It might work for ST, but i dont know if it works for the Oilers!

Rebuild is a convenient excuse for GMs who dont wish to do their jobs

by SumOil on Feb 6, 2011 12:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Brooks, babbling about him

Penner for Orpik.

Send Penner now, get Orpik back at the draft.
Obviously, other pieces would be involved.
Its a variation on the Vandermeer – Prust series of trades.

Though, if i were Shero, I’d be thinking of keeping my powder dry for this season.
Just write it off and regroup for next year

by Mr DeBakey on Feb 6, 2011 8:51 PM MST reply actions  

Though, if i were Shero, I’d be thinking of keeping my powder dry for this season.

If Shero can find someone high on Goligoski, he should pull the trigger immediately. That guy’s numbers are never going to look better. They’ve got Bortuzzo, Sneep and Strait in the A and Despres a couple of years out. It’s not hard to find guys to beat up on 3rd pairing minutes (DOES NOT APPLY TO EDMONTON).

Shero could find some lower-end fowards for lower-end picks in Florida in Stillman and Higgins.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 6, 2011 11:56 PM MST up reply actions  

If Shero can find someone high on Goligoski, he should pull the trigger immediately.

Some team did call about Goligoski (believed to be Columbus) and Shero said no.

I understand this, as we currently don’t have anyone to take his place. I agree with Shero, I’d like to see Gogo traded in the future but not now. The guys you mentioned (primarily Bortuzzo & Despres) aren’t ready for the NHL full-time just yet.

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by BobPurkey34 on Feb 7, 2011 12:24 PM MST up reply actions  

We were actually just discussing this on Pensburgh

If I had it my way, Tambellini and Shero would become good friends in the next month if they aren’t already.

First, about your possible returns. I don’t think it needs to be said, Staal is about as untouchable as you can get right now. GMRS would hang up the phone if someone asks.

I don’t like the idea of Tangradi, however if he would be part of a deal for Penner, I would accept it. In total fairness to Big Dog, he hasn’t been “totally underwhelming” on a dominant team. He got 9 games with the Pens at the beginning of the season and saw almost no ice time away from the 4th line, and the same has been true in his return. It’s true power forwards take longer to develop but he’ll be a very good player in the future.

I would not even think about trading Despres (or Bortuzzo for that matter) because the popular road we see is Goligoski being traded down the road when he becomes dispensable. You can have Bennett if you like.

But, what would Edmonton be looking for in return for someone like Penner? Do you want draft picks (if so, what), do you want defense, offense? From the past several years, Shero does not like giving up current members of the NHL team so if that’s ideally what Tambellini is going to want, then we might not be in business. But if you’re more interested in draft picks or prospects, Shero has definitely shown he’s willing to pull the trigger on moves like that.

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by BobPurkey34 on Feb 7, 2011 12:15 PM MST reply actions  

concurring

Goligoski won’t be going anywhere this year
Next year, perhaps
But the Penguins need him if they are to make a run at the Cup this year
and any trade would be motivated presumably by just that fact

if Goligoski won’t be moved, then even more so neither will Orpik, Z, Martin, Letang.

by Diomedes7 on Feb 7, 2011 2:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Pittsburghs first round pick is likely in the 25-30 range.

With Malkin done for the year and Crosby tentatively looking at a March return, I wouldn’t bet on that.

Zona’s pretty much dead on for “Sell-high” on Goligoski. Guy looks like a 5D, bordering on a 4, with some offensive skill on a territorially dominant team (2nd in adjusted ES Fenwick%, essentially tied with Philly and well clear of the next group of teams; Chicago, Detroit, and Montreal). If GMRS is getting interest in him, he really ought to investigate – he might find himself with an attractive return package if the team is starved for a PP guy. That’s only reinforced if the Pens are going to be without Malkin and Crosby for an extended period. Without those two, they’re a scrappy, hard working team that’s going to have huge trouble putting the puck in the net.

As a Caps fan, I’d really hate for the Pens to get either Penner or Hemsky. I’d definitely love to see either guy in Caps Red, though.

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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 9, 2011 2:31 PM MST reply actions  

Guy looks like a 5D, bordering on a 4, with some offensive skill on a territorially dominant team (2nd in adjusted ES Fenwick%, essentially tied with Philly and well clear of the next group of teams; Chicago, Detroit, and Montreal). If GMRS is getting interest in him, he really ought to investigate – he might find himself with an attractive return package if the team is starved for a PP guy.

Exactly. I know Pens fans think he’s necessary for a cup run, but there are a bunch of small skating guys that can beat easy minutes.

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by Derek Zona on Feb 9, 2011 6:28 PM MST up reply actions  

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