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The Best Young Line In Hockey (It's Not Who You Think. Nope, Not Them Either.)

A few short years ago, the Colorado Avalanche were one of the worst possession teams in the NHL. They were extremely young and partly due to that, overwhelmed on a nightly basis. They were heavily outshot and spent an enormous amount of time digging pucks out of their own end. But they rode some hot goaltending and lucky shooting percentage to the top of the conference and held on to make the playoffs as the 8th seed in the West. Joe Sacco was discussed as the coach of the year (he was a finalist in the Jack Adams voting) and Greg Sherman was highly-regarded by the media as a bright GM at the helm of a quick turn-around. They were 2009-10 model of this year's Minnesota Wild.

They crashed back to earth last season, however. Even though they improved their possession numbers, the Avs didn't get a couple of months of all-world goaltending from Craig Anderson and the bounces weren't as plentiful as they were the year prior. Avs' fans were calling for Joe Sacco's job and wanted a pound of flesh from Greg Sherman. They finished 29th in the NHL and "won" the second overall draft choice in the 2011 NHL draft.

Though a number of dynamic centres and one franchise defenseman were available, the Avs went with the tough-as-nails right wing from Sweden, Gabriel Landeskog. Landeskog was regarded as the most "NHL-ready" prospect in the draft, as evidenced by his scouting report by NHL De-centralized Scouting:

Gabriel does remind me of former Kitchener Ranger (and Philadelphia Flyers captain) Mike Richards. He sticks up for his teammates and is as strong at both ends of the rink as any player in the draft this year.

But Landeskog was also regarded as the prospect in the top group with the lowest ceiling. Landeskog made the Avs out of training camp and Sacco found a home for him on the right side of the Avs' third line with Daniel Winnik and Ryan O`Reilly. Even though Sacco decided to break up the line in mid-November in a search for scoring, the Winnik - O'Reilly - Landeskog line was and is the best young line in the NHL.

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Below is chart detailing Joe Sacco's forward deployments thus far. The chart was conceived by Eric T. at Broad Street Hockey.

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Click here for full resolution chart

The blue glob in the upper right quadrant is the W-O-L line. While the forwards haven't separated themselves via Qualcomp W-O-L are head and shoulders above the rest of the squad by the possession numbers. The chart shows qualcomp on the x-axis, defensive zonestart percentage on the y-axis, color indicates positive or negative zonestart adjusted Corsi and the size of the bubble is the absolute value of the adjusted Corsi. In other words, the giant blue glob formed by the W-O-L line is good, very good and it's showing up in the team's possession numbers.

Even though Sacco broke the line up in mid-November, they haven't played enough minutes apart to generate solid WOWY data. They've been together for approximately 75% of their total time on ice. In a very, very small sample size, each of their Fenwick and Corsi apart numbers are slightly worse than their numbers together. Of note, however: when they were skating together and on the ice, the Avs scored a goal on approximately 3.5% of their attempted shots (including misses), or 1 goal in 29 attempts. Since they've been apart, the Avs have scored a goal on approximately 6.5% of their attempted shots, or 1 in 15 attempts.

How significant was the W-O-L line's performance? 362 forwards have played 15 games or more in the NHL so far this season and the entire W-O-L line ranks in the top 25 in zonestart-adjusted Corsi, with the rookie Landeskog 4th overall in the entire league. Four other teams have three players in the top 25 league-wide, those players are listed by team below.

League Rank Forward
Adj. Corsi Age Average
4 Gabriel Landeskog 20.690 19 21.67
10 Ryan O`Reilly 18.930 20
21 Daniel Winnik 14.952 26





11 Patrice Bergeron 18.524 26 23.50
14 Nathan Horton 17.769 26
20 Brad Marchand 15.113 23
24 Tyler Seguin 14.376 19





1 Chris Kunitz 22.637 32 26.67
3 Jordan Staal 21.731 23
17 Tyler Kennedy 16.309 25





2 Ryan Kesler 22.360 27 27.33
8 David Booth 19.494 27
13 Chris Higgins 18.032 28





7 Pavel Datsyuk 19.768 33 30.33
9 Henrik Zetterberg 19.448 31
22 Jiri Hudler 14.836 27

The W-O-L line is keeping pace with some of the most well-regarded possession players in the league, but by age, they're significantly younger than those other lines.

Though O'Reilly has been great, Landeskog's performance has been jaw-dropping. Though each scouting report noted his all-zones play and his willingness to work the boards and behind the net in both zones, I don't think any scout, any OHL analyst, any draftnik could have predicted the level of Landeskog's play through two months. I mentioned above that Landeskog ranks 4th in the NHL in adjusted Corsi, an unthinkable number for a rookie. Below are the 24 rookie forwards who have appeared in 15 or more games thus far. I've broken them out by their qualcomp rank on their own team. That ranking is noted in the far right columns, i.e. Landeskog ranks 5th of 12 Avs' forwards in rel. Corsi qualcomp. The top table contains the players who have taken on top six qualcomp thus far.

Rookie F
Adj Corsi League Rank / 362 QC Rank (Team)
Gabriel Landeskog 20.690 4 5 12
Colin Greening -4.756 257 2 13
Matt Frattin -8.301 295 5 13
Craig Smith -10.557 310 2 13
Nick Johnson -12.504 326 6 11

Landeskog is killing it compared to his rookie peers. In this group of players facing top six minutes, Landeskog is the youngest by three years. Smith is 22, Frattin 23, and Greening and Johnson are both 25. Not only that, the gap in adjusted Corsi is so large it's almost unbelievable.

The other group - the group playing bottom six minutes is listed in the table below.

Name Adj Corsi League Rank / 362 QC Rank (Team)
Aaron Palushaj 13.255 31 10 12
Sean Couturier 9.693 52 10 11
Ryan Johansen 8.453 64 11 11
Marcus Kruger 8.299 68 10 12
Dale Weise 3.012 142 12 12
Cody Eakin 2.947 144 9 13
Matt Read 2.529 156 7 11
Andrew Desjardins 0.635 177 10 12
Stephane Da Costa -1.429 213 13 13
Blake Geoffrion -4.333 247 12 13
Brett Connolly -4.529 252 12 12
Kaspars Daugavins -7.179 281 8 13
Evgeny Grachev -11.288 315 13 13
Roman Horak -11.464 317 7 12
Cory Emmerton -11.939 321 12 12
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins -13.676 336 8 13
Maxime Macenauer -14.720 344 12 12
Devante Smith-Pelly -23.301 357 11 12
Anton Lander -24.235 359 11 13

The closest rookie to Landeskog is Montreal's Aaron Palushaj, but he's playing 4th line minutes, as are Sean Couturier, Ryan Johansen, Marcus Kruger and Dale Weise, the next four by adjusted Corsi rank.

It was a few long years in the Wilderness for the Avs, but now they're starting to own even strength play all thanks to a couple of kids. They're apart now and getting some bounces, but if things turn south for Joe Sacco, he would do well to reunite the W-O-L line. As for the Avs' low-ceiling rookie, if this is his ceiling, Avs fans are going to be a very happy bunch even without any growth in Landeskog's game. If he does see incremental growth over the next few years, Gabriel Landeskog will go from possession demon to superstar.

*Stats courtesy behindthenet.ca

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While Winnik’s career numbers indicate he’s not much of a shooter, O’Reilly’s current 10.9 S% seems right (and he’s already got 55 SF according to HockeyReference compared to his TOTAL of 119 last season) while Landeskog is only shooting 5.6% on a pace of 250+ shots (a solid number as I’m sure you know). If both Winnik and Landeskog just see a bit of an uptick, then suddenly everyone will be talking about this line.

Good stuff. P.S. – Mile High Hockey even embraced corsi a bit on with their piece on O’Reilly yesterday:

And even though I’m probably going to get run off the board for even mentioning it, his Corsi is second on the team at 14.4 (behind only Landeskog’s 19.1). I’m still not exactly sure what numbers are plugged into what equations to find Corsi, but from what I do understand, this means that O’Reilly has been on the ice for more shots-at-net-for than shots-at-net-against.

by Rob L on Dec 9, 2011 7:33 AM MST reply actions  

I’ve been beating the Corsi drum pretty heavily the last 18 months or so…

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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 9, 2011 9:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Sorry

Just joined your site today haven’t gone back through anything yet but MHH is good stuff.

by Rob L on Dec 9, 2011 10:46 AM MST up reply actions  

My site’s seperate (and seldom posts) but I comment over there quite often*.

* way too much

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Jibblescribbits: C'mon over and waste some time

by Jibblescribbits on Dec 9, 2011 10:47 AM MST up reply actions  

Personally I feel MHH discounted Corsi because it said a lot of things they didn’t want to hear during the ‘09-’10 playoff season.

No soup for you!

by creamy on Dec 11, 2011 7:03 AM MST up reply actions  

I’ve tried to catch a couple of Avs games lately and, confirmation bias be damned, Rhino Riley and Landeskog look like absolute pigs on the puck.

by Passive Voice on Dec 9, 2011 7:49 AM MST reply actions  

pigs on the puck.

My new favorite phrase.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 9, 2011 7:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Winnik is a guy I noticed the last couple of years as well. He and O’Reilly had pretty good underlying numbers by themselves last year in pretty tough circumstances.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 9, 2011 9:18 AM MST reply actions  

Rhino is really good. Maybe better than Duchene.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 9, 2011 7:35 PM MST up reply actions  

That chart is great. One of the problems I have with the advanced stats is that reporting them with decimals gives a false sense of precision. They are indicators not precise measurements and that chart captures everything that is right about the indicators without the unnecessary layer of false precision.

Now use fenwick instead of corsi.

by Captain Obvious II on Dec 9, 2011 9:38 AM MST reply actions  

The Oilers are a pretty good example of why Corsi isn’t worse than Fenwick.

In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!

Tactical contributor to the Copper & Blue and just as boring on the twitters... @dawgbone98

by dawgbone98 on Dec 9, 2011 10:06 AM MST up reply actions  

… because … ?

Oilers fan through thick, thin and anorexic. Writer for The Cult of Hockey.

by Bruce McCurdy on Dec 10, 2011 2:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Now use fenwick instead of corsi.

Fenwick is a team stat, Corsi an individual stat. I need to write about this

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by Derek Zona on Dec 9, 2011 7:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks Derek.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Dec 9, 2011 3:37 PM MST reply actions  

Writing something positive about my team. I know I haven’t found much good to write about lately…

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Dec 10, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

I think Sacco should go back to this line. I know he was looking for goals, but man, this line is just so good on the puck.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 10, 2011 2:53 PM MST up reply actions  

He probably will, but I think there is a small tweak necessary.

We don’t have much sample size to compare against, but I think it’s O’Reilly and Landeskog that are driving that line. Radar sets up both his wingers, but Winnik doesn’t have the finish. We were hoping to see Jones get a lengthy tryout on that line, but Hejduk has been there recently. That worked during the homestand, but with Stastny’s injury, everything has gotten jumbled again. Add in that Winnik has significant PK minutes and with the way they’ve been taking penalties he may not have the gas to keep up with Radar and the Kog if they were reunited.

If we don't get our sauce, we ain't watching the game!

by Mike @ MHH on Dec 10, 2011 5:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Winnik’s numbers aren’t bad on his own. I think he’s helpful to them in the defensive end.

Editor of The Copper & Blue, and leader of The Cult Of Hartikainen.

by Derek Zona on Dec 10, 2011 6:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Well written. Thanks for the analysis.

by avalanchejef on Dec 12, 2011 1:30 PM MST up reply actions  

So Mike Richards…Flyers Captain? Still?

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Dec 12, 2011 11:34 AM MST reply actions  

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