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Oilers v. Islanders - 1 Samuel 13:8-15 (A Classic)

The fans waited for seven years - the timetable set by the madman - but when the time came, everyone was overwhelmed by just how underwhelming the finished product really was. After three years, they all decided to take a break and think on what they had seen. When the team returned, the fans had begun to scatter, so the madman said, "Give me the phone! It's time for a rebuild, and this time we'll do it right!"

After some small trades were made, Wang looked around and said, "What are you doing?" The madman replied, "I saw that the fans were scattering, and I saw how bad the team had been playing and so I picked up the pho-"

"You have been very foolish!" interrupted Wang. "You have never once tried to build a team patiently. You've had all this time, and never once thought about just waiting! If you had spoken consistently I would have allowed you to rule this team forever, but now your rule must come to an end. If rebuilding is the plan, there will be a new man for the job, patient and smart, one who will be willing to listen to everything I say!"

And with that, Wang went to the dressing room to find his man. When he walked in, he yelled, "Big news goalie!" but Rick was the only goalie in the room, so Wang panicked and made up some big news for him too.

Edmonton Oilers (15-18-3) @ New York Islanders (12-17-6)

Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum, 11:00 a.m. MST
Television: Sportsnet West

More analysis after the jump...

Star-divide

Home Team Scouting Report:

I know this isn't a real shock, but the Islanders are one of the worst teams in the NHL. They're also a cautionary tale for the people invested in the Edmonton Oilers. This is now the fourth consecutive season that the Islanders have been "rebuilding" and while it's true that the team is closer to being done today than they were four years ago, they're still awful, and there's no elite team just waiting to come on out. These things rarely happen with a slow and steady climb, but teams like the Islanders are a good reminder that the sudden jump out of the rebuild and into a playoff contender is a whole lot harder than the intentional dive down the elevator shaft.

Expected Lineups:

Edmonton Oilers (15-18-3):

Smyth - Horcoff - Hemsky
Hall - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
Gagner - Belanger - Jones
Eager - Lander - Petrell

Smid - Gilbert
Sutton - Potter
Peckham - Petry


Dubnyk

New York Islanders (12-17-6):

Moulson - Tavares - Okposo
Rolston - Nielsen - Parenteau
Martin - Bailey - Grabner
Niederreiter - Reasoner - Wallace

Streit - Jurcina
Hamonic - MacDonald
Mottau - Eaton

Nabokov

By the Numbers:

  • New York's leading scorer is P.A. Parenteau who has 30 points in 35 games. Michael Grabner and Matt Moulson are also among the team's top six scorers. All three of those guys weren't able to establish themselves in the NHL until arriving in New York. On the one hand, the Islanders deserve credit for finding these guys. On the other hand, it tells you just how much opportunity matters, and a good reminder that replacement level is extremely difficult to measure (though I think all three of these players should be comfortably above that mark).
  • John Tavares is the guy you'd expect to be leading the Islanders in scoring, and he is just one point behind Parenteau. But perhaps more impressive is the fact that he's currently tied for fifteenth in shots on goal in the entire NHL, which bodes well for his ability to produce goals in the future.
  • No team has lost more than the Islanders since the lockout, but the Oilers are the closest. Both teams are also still terrible and counting on star players acquired through the draft to turn things around. Both teams have at least five players chosen in the top ten in their draft year already.
  • Tom Gilbert leads the Oilers in ice time per game by over three minutes (he has played 24:10 per game compared to 20:42 for Ladislav Smid). That's the third largest gap from first to second in the NHL. The only bigger gaps are in Chicago and Calgary where Duncan Keith and Jay Bouwmeester handle over 26:00 per game.
  • Rick DiPietro's cumulative save percentage since the 2007-08 season is .887 on 1,384 shots when he's actually been healthy enough to play. This season, he's back on injured reserve. I know they must want him to retire, but I wonder how long the club holds on before deciding to buy him out.

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Tavares was matched power vs power vs Jarome when the Islanders played the Flames and looked like the best player on the ice for most of the contest.

Now, the Iginla line is getting beat up by just about everyone at ES these days, but it was the first time I watched Tavares where I thought “future star”.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 10:36 AM MST reply actions  

Thanks Kent. And no you still can't have Nielsen next year.

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by garik16 on Dec 31, 2011 11:16 AM MST up reply actions  

That’s because in a fantasy world, the Oilers are going to get him.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

We can trade you Reasoner.

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by garik16 on Dec 31, 2011 11:30 AM MST up reply actions  

They’re also a cautionary tale for the people invested in the Edmonton Oilers. This is now the fourth consecutive season that the Islanders have been “rebuilding” and while it’s true that the team is closer to being done today than they were four years ago, they’re still awful, and there’s no elite team just waiting to come on out. These things rarely happen with a slow and steady climb, but teams like the Islanders are a good reminder that the sudden jump out of the rebuild and into a playoff contender is a whole lot harder than the intentional dive down the elevator shaft.

But, I thought BAM! Stanley Cup?

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 10:52 AM MST reply actions  

To be fair to the Islanders, the Oilers have been “rebuilding” for a lot more than four consecutive seasons.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 10:55 AM MST up reply actions  

I'd point out one extra thing here - the Isles don't even appear to be trying not to be awful this year.

One of the most frustrating things about this team is that it has several players who are probably ready for the Show who are solidly ranked prospects….and yet the Team refuses to call them up instead of crappy veterans who made the roster (Pandolfo, Staios (both Tryouts who made the team for some reason), Rolston, Mottau, Eaton, Jurcina, etc.). Our entire D-line could be greatly improved in a heartbeat, but the team refuses to commit to the youth movement.

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by garik16 on Dec 31, 2011 11:15 AM MST up reply actions  

You should root for the Oilers.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Tom Gilbert leads the Oilers in ice time per game by over three minutes (he has played 24:10 per game compared to 20:42 for Ladislav Smid). That’s the third largest gap from first to second in the NHL. The only bigger gaps are in Chicago and Calgary where Duncan Keith and Jay Bouwmeester handle over 26:00 per game.

He’s so good and still hated by a bunch of fans and under-appreciated by the rest. Next year is his shiv year, FYI.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 10:55 AM MST reply actions  

Ken Morrow played 550 NHL games and is getting a longer, more bullshit ceremony than the Oilers gave Mark Messier.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:12 AM MST reply actions  

We like our dynasty players too

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by garik16 on Dec 31, 2011 11:17 AM MST up reply actions  

As soon as the Oilers have a long ceremony to induct Jeff Beukeboom into the Oilers Hall of Fame, I’ll criticize them for the same thing.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:25 AM MST up reply actions  

Good luck today guys

very interested to see the youth on youth rebuild progress between the two. I read Copper and Blue stuff all the time because the similarities are just so close. Gotta try to get the fanbase to see that sometimes, it’s not just your team that goes through some of this torture.

Would love to see some more clash of dynasties. Happy new year!

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 31, 2011 11:14 AM MST reply actions  

What a ridiculous move by Hemsky.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 11:24 AM MST reply actions  

Undressed Streit

been happening so much this year it’s driving everyone nuts. Sweet move.

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 31, 2011 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

We’ll take Streit… we’ll take Streit! Do you guys need any energy players? We have a boatload of them!

by Czechboy on Dec 31, 2011 11:29 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah! Streit and Sutton both get debacled all the time defensively, but Sutton runs shows!

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:30 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry we've dealt with the Andy Sutton experience already.

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by garik16 on Dec 31, 2011 11:38 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Most of the fanbase would say so

CALL UP HALEY AND GILLIES!!!11 THIS TAEM HAS NO TUFFNEZZtwelve

Streit is probably playing too many minutes after missing a full year and the bottom three D are awful/old

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 31, 2011 11:34 AM MST up reply actions  

If his hair wasn’t so long he’d have held it on his stick and put it in.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Eager

Of course he gets a roughing call.

Two more years of this

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 11:25 AM MST reply actions  

And it’s a goal against. Thanks for all of that toughness Ben!

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions  

But think of all the momentum we got from that big hit oh fuck. I thought aggressive penalties were easier to kill!

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:27 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

The battle of the Master Planners… this could very well be the cup final as both teams have been losing for consecutive years and drafting well… look at all the young prospects. Just a matter of time!

by Czechboy on Dec 31, 2011 11:30 AM MST reply actions  

Does your wife want to do the post-game this afternoon? She seems to pretty much have it figured out.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:31 AM MST up reply actions  

This many years of hearing me grumble has her on top of things with the team.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 11:37 AM MST up reply actions  

Taylor Hall is ridiculous.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 11:31 AM MST reply actions  

Nice job by Wreck’em to get back on the counter, though.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:32 AM MST up reply actions  

WING GUY

Thank you Leroy!

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:33 AM MST reply actions  

Petry got that shot blocked and was really quick to get to the corner to hold the puck in. He was off-camera, so I can’t see how he moved that fast. Wow.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 11:38 AM MST reply actions  

Awesome effort by Gagner there. He does that on a consistent basis now. If he played with a shooter, he’d have so many more GFON

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 11:41 AM MST reply actions  

Corey Potter: offensive dynamo.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:42 AM MST reply actions  

I love American road games where the Oilers get a favourable call and the crowd, on balance, cheers.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:43 AM MST reply actions  

Soccer game breaking out here

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 31, 2011 11:43 AM MST reply actions  

Except there’s replay.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:44 AM MST up reply actions  

The moulson one looks like a goal to me.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 11:43 AM MST reply actions  

Agreed. No Distinct Kicking Motion™.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Clearly the oilers paid off the officials.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 11:46 AM MST reply actions  

Because god knows they’re not spending the money on a good hockey team.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:49 AM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Gagner must be feeling it. That’s three times now he’s yelped for the puck.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 11:49 AM MST reply actions  

Does Dubby look a little nervy ?

by southampton viking on Dec 31, 2011 11:50 AM MST reply actions  

He knew he was going to do that before he even pivoted

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 11:52 AM MST up reply actions  

Yup. The execution was spot on too.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

GO UPSTAIRS REF! GO UPSTAIRS!

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:52 AM MST reply actions  

Corey Potter needs a lesson or ten on defending against rushes.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 11:52 AM MST reply actions  

Two guys go to the same man. Brilliant.

by painfulloss on Dec 31, 2011 11:53 AM MST reply actions  

Potter played that poorly.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks again for not showing that faceoff, Sportsnet! Steve Staios did something but that Sportselect ad was great!

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 11:53 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

I hate that. They now have wine ads that pop up during play and take up the bottom third of the screen.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 11:55 AM MST up reply actions  

You’ve got to be kidding me. TWO guys are standing on top of Hopkins, waiting for them to feed him the puck and Potter and Hall can do nothing but stare at Hopkins and force the puck to him.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 11:56 AM MST reply actions  

I don’t know exactly what language (Finnish? Swedish?) the announcers are speaking on my internet feed, but it sure beats Quinn, Debrusk & Principe!

by painfulloss on Dec 31, 2011 12:01 PM MST reply actions  

Could it be the Punjabi announcers? I love those guys. Wish I understood them.

by eddy the lip on Dec 31, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

KNOCK ME DOWN AND CALL ME SUSAN

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 12:11 PM MST reply actions  

It’s an Islanders – Oilers game, so just minor-league hockey.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 12:17 PM MST up reply actions  

St. Albert vs Whitemud West

by melancholyculkin on Dec 31, 2011 12:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Eager shoves Matt Martin for a while! MOMENTUM!

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 12:18 PM MST reply actions  

And there goes Eager, trying to knock school books out of kids hands.

….and the inevitable goal. Thanks for the grit!

by eddy the lip on Dec 31, 2011 12:18 PM MST reply actions  

Islanders announcers:

“And Ben Eager has cost his team two goals”

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 12:18 PM MST reply actions  

But produced an abundance of energy, so it’s all equal in the end.

by DarrenV on Dec 31, 2011 2:14 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Jones and Gagner working hard, with Belanger cruising around wondering where the hell to go next. Seriously, buddy is a boat anchor. Gagner is really getting screwed this year with these guys.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 12:19 PM MST reply actions  

He’d be having a heckuva year if wasn’t for the boat anchors.

by eddy the lip on Dec 31, 2011 12:20 PM MST up reply actions  

He was doing great subbing in for Hall. Not sure why Renney doesn’t try more of that on the road.

Oh right, gunning for a lottery pick. Forgot for a moment there.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 12:23 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

No doubt about that. He’s played good hockey.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 12:20 PM MST up reply actions  

That was a really aggressive penalty. Theoretically, we should score a shorthanded goal… oh, never mind.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 12:19 PM MST reply actions  

Two more years of this crap.

And watch Renney compliment his stupidity in the postgame.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

The funny thing is eager is basically forced to play like this. Otherwise he doesn’t have a job. The real stupidity is the thinking that that type of play has some sort of meaningful benefit.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 12:23 PM MST up reply actions  

No sir. The real stupidity is signing that type of player to a three year deal

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 12:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Wrist shot from the hash marks? I had such high hopes for Dubnyk this yr & he’s sucked.

by painfulloss on Dec 31, 2011 12:19 PM MST reply actions  

Well, I’m out. Have a great New Years everyone!

by painfulloss on Dec 31, 2011 12:20 PM MST reply actions  

Happy New Years! Apparently it’s not too early to start drinking.

by eddy the lip on Dec 31, 2011 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

And now, are there any further questions as to why Dubnyk is riding pine so much?

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 12:20 PM MST reply actions  

Yes. This game is definitely Khabibulin bad but Dubnyk is younger and cheaper. He at least has theoretical future value.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 12:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Matt Martin is the isles MVP apparently.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 12:21 PM MST reply actions  

To the liquor store!

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 12:21 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Oh, and why is there a Flamer fan in our game thread?

by painfulloss on Dec 31, 2011 12:22 PM MST reply actions  

What I don’t understand is why you watch our awful awful team when you have your own awful awful team to suck it up and grudgingly endure.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

I ask you this everytimg you’re here: can we have Glencross back?

by eddy the lip on Dec 31, 2011 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

We returned the favor by trading for staios.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 12:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Now that’s a true friend!

by eddy the lip on Dec 31, 2011 12:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Pulling a Derek

https://twitter.com/#!/bonfire99/status/153194260173307904

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 12:24 PM MST reply actions  

If Hemsky can’t show his worth to the team by putting up points he should at least be fighting people.

by Yeti# on Dec 31, 2011 12:26 PM MST reply actions  

You mean taking penalties by trying to fight people I assume.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 12:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Once in a while, he should just take the instigator and pound someone. It would prove to everyone his shoulder is fine and his heart is with the team.

by Yeti# on Dec 31, 2011 12:38 PM MST up reply actions  

If he tried to do that, it would pretty much prove how injured he was when his shoulder falls off onto the ice during the fight.

by Jeremywilhelm on Dec 31, 2011 12:40 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Hey, look, another Steve Staios penalty we didn’t get to see! EAT A LITERALLY INFINITE AMOUNT OF SHIT, SPORTSNET!

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 12:29 PM MST reply actions  

Here’s a break….Pisani…..SCORES!

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 12:30 PM MST reply actions  

Ahhh…the patented “Hemsky pass to nobody”.

For a guy who’s been around as long as he has, you’d think he’d have those things locked down by now.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 12:30 PM MST reply actions  

2 solid D-men and Mrazek in goal, we’d be kicking these guys asses.

*Wonders why he tortures himself so much.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 12:33 PM MST reply actions  

I just said the same thing. Wife asked why I still watch.

I’m getting tired of this crap. Maybe I’ll start writing about the Coyotes.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 12:34 PM MST up reply actions  

You can write about the flames if you want to experience a slightly different form of purgatory.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 12:36 PM MST up reply actions  

The thing is, the situation we’re witnessing is totally manufactured. THAT’S what really pisses me off.

I think I watch to see if the young will guys get it together and screw the best laid plans of mice and Tambellini.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 12:37 PM MST up reply actions  

But if they do, he takes credit for it.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 12:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Steve Tambellini, master of the “Check and mate”.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 12:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh man. Could you imagine playing chess with him?

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 12:40 PM MST up reply actions  

This is the game that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friends…

The Edmonton Oilers - All we do is win!!

by OilLeak on Dec 31, 2011 12:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Timed chess would be great too. He’d run out of time on the first move.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 1:13 PM MST up reply actions  

You just need to sucker him into a trade for that big pawn with huge upside.

by eddy the lip on Dec 31, 2011 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Tambellini staring at the board on his second move, killing fifteen, twenty minutes, then confidently playing 2. g4.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 1:14 PM MST up reply actions  

(One for the chess nerds today.)

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 1:15 PM MST up reply actions  

Dear Andy Sutton, you’re about to be suspended again.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 12:37 PM MST reply actions  

Why is Eager on the ice again?

by Bob Arctor on Dec 31, 2011 12:37 PM MST reply actions  

And Eager with more stupidity. Please send him to the A and bring back Magnus.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 12:38 PM MST reply actions  

Sutton must hate playing for the Oilers. He keeps trying to get suspended.

by Jeremywilhelm on Dec 31, 2011 12:38 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

The feeling is mutual.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 12:38 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

He must be going for some sort of record for consecutive suspensions.

by Yeti# on Dec 31, 2011 12:39 PM MST up reply actions  

I suspect that is the reason so many oilers get injured every year as well.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 12:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Eager is even the laughing stock of the Islanders’ announcers. Anyone else see something wrong with this?

by dessert1111 on Dec 31, 2011 12:38 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah, right now he should be their MVP.

by eddy the lip on Dec 31, 2011 12:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Best thing about an Eager penalty? He’s not out on the PK.

by eddy the lip on Dec 31, 2011 12:38 PM MST reply actions  

I can’t decide whether Eager or Dubnyk is in the lead for 20th star right now. It might be both.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 12:39 PM MST reply actions  

You might need a new set of categories for this.

by Yeti# on Dec 31, 2011 12:44 PM MST up reply actions  

So what was the eager penalty for anyways?

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 12:42 PM MST reply actions  

Something about a “bushlep”, from the sound of it.

by eddy the lip on Dec 31, 2011 12:44 PM MST up reply actions  

What kind of crap is this?!!!

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by OilLeak on Dec 31, 2011 12:42 PM MST reply actions  

Impressive, Sutton has made it 25 seconds on his shift without hitting anyone in the head. Baby steps.

by Jeremywilhelm on Dec 31, 2011 12:42 PM MST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I think Gagner just misses his old kid linemates. Oilers should reaquire Nilson and Cogliano. I mean, if one kid line is good, lets go for two!!

by Jeremywilhelm on Dec 31, 2011 12:45 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Gagner misses linemates. Period.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 12:47 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I’d like to see him back with Hall.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 1:10 PM MST up reply actions  

before bought Nilson out, send him to A? Likely to late

by Screaming69 on Dec 31, 2011 12:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Gagner is on the line where offense goes to die.

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by OilLeak on Dec 31, 2011 12:47 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I really feel bad for him. The number of solid goal feeds he’s seen dribble off sticks would be enough to turn the sanest man into a confirmed alcoholic.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 12:50 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Well the bright side is that if the Oilers don’t trade him, he’s going to be really cheap to resign.

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by OilLeak on Dec 31, 2011 12:52 PM MST up reply actions  

His development has been totally sacrificed for the three new kids. If I were Sam, I’d be begging for a trade. Some smart GM will pick him up and surround him with finishers. Then we’ll be linking his scoring stats in anger during losing cause game threads for the foreseeable future.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 12:58 PM MST up reply actions  

If I were any Oiler drafted in the first round I’d be begging for a trade.

Ha ha, look at Staios throwing out the old “fastest team in the league” bit for our benefit.

We heard that shit in the early ’90’s too. I think it’s the Oilers team version of “energy line”.

by RiversQ on Dec 31, 2011 1:02 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Hartikainen and Omark on the third line please.

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by OilLeak on Dec 31, 2011 1:05 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s the secondary scoring we dearly need. Man I’d love to see Omark and Gagner working together.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 1:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Just wait until any of the Chosen Line stumbles. They’ll turn on them too.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 1:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I actually think the oilers have been better at es vs the islanders than the flames were the other night. Constant penalties and bad goaltending has them in the hole though.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 12:45 PM MST reply actions  

Hey, there’s a good Eager? I knew nothing of this.

by eddy the lip on Dec 31, 2011 12:54 PM MST reply actions  

Oilers PR guys are in the color booth waving hundred dollar bills again.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 1:00 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

I was one of those guys apologizing for being so hard on Dubnyk earlier in the year. And of course his game has totally gone into the shitter since then.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 12:54 PM MST reply actions  

The PP is just totally off the rails now. I suppose they have grabbed a couple goals in the last few weeks but they haven’t been a result of a well executed system. Outside of the occasional sublime individual effort, they’ve got nothing.

by RiversQ on Dec 31, 2011 1:05 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Horcoff and Smyth are being overplayed at ES, so they’ve got nothing left for second-line PP duties. Opposing teams just have to blanket RNH because they know everything is going through him.

As long as we have guys like Belanger negating secondary scoring, we’re ridiculously easy to game plan against on the road.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 1:11 PM MST up reply actions  

The first power play is clueless if they can’t force it to Hopkins on the wall.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 1:12 PM MST up reply actions  

You do see the occasional team that clearly hadn’t bothered to watch the tape on the Oilers PP. They generate some chances in those situations too.

by RiversQ on Dec 31, 2011 1:15 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Nice power move by Eberle

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by OilLeak on Dec 31, 2011 1:09 PM MST reply actions  

no disrespect to anyone – but both these teams are poor

by southampton viking on Dec 31, 2011 1:11 PM MST reply actions  

Disrespect to everyone – both of these teams are unbelievably shit.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 1:11 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Thinking about turning this off to watch the Winter Cashgrab alumni game. IT’S COME TO THIS.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 1:11 PM MST reply actions  

I woke up this morning thinking I needed an excuse to drink.

by eddy the lip on Dec 31, 2011 1:13 PM MST up reply actions  

The ’80s Oilers are well represented.

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by George E. Ays on Dec 31, 2011 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Let’s trade RNH for Weber and Suter, problem solved.

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by OilLeak on Dec 31, 2011 1:11 PM MST reply actions  

Hall with his second post. He’s so friggin good. Shame he’s wasted on this management team.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 1:14 PM MST reply actions  

I’m getting to the point where I’m looking forward to seeing Gagner, Hall, Eberle, and Nugent-Hopkins play for an actual NHL team someday. I’ll cheer for them in Detroit!

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 1:15 PM MST up reply actions  

You know, if sutton didn’t play like an idiot he could be mildly effective.

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by OilLeak on Dec 31, 2011 1:15 PM MST reply actions  

Petry pinched in – Belanger I think covered – break out pass attempt and theres no defence

by southampton viking on Dec 31, 2011 1:18 PM MST reply actions  

You know what pisses me off the most? This is a winnable game. We don’t seem to be able to convert many of those this year. BRUTAL.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 1:18 PM MST reply actions  

Spector needs to end up in a ditch somewhere, what a blowhard.

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by OilLeak on Dec 31, 2011 1:21 PM MST up reply actions  

This is why I don’t usually follow your twitter links. I can feel the brain hemorrhage coming.

by eddy the lip on Dec 31, 2011 1:21 PM MST up reply actions  

To be fair to Spec, apart from Dubnyk the most conspicuously useless players have been vets: Eager, Belanger, Sutton.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 1:24 PM MST up reply actions  

That’s embarrassing. You know I do wonder if Winters is right with his last Oilerland cartoon. Maybe these idiots don’t need to be manipulated. They just believe this shit right out of the gate.

by RiversQ on Dec 31, 2011 1:25 PM MST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

Well, you have to think, if the oilers finish last this year jobs have to be in jeopardy.

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by OilLeak on Dec 31, 2011 1:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah. The equipment manager better update his resume.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 1:30 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

“IF”? I’ve never seen a management team work so hard to finish last.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 1:30 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t get it. Eager could just focus on crushing key players against the boards. Then he’d get his precious fight.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 1:22 PM MST reply actions  

the two commentory teams have different opinions about not willing to fight/drawing penalties – ha !

by southampton viking on Dec 31, 2011 1:24 PM MST reply actions  

Dubnyk really coming through when his team needs him the least.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 1:26 PM MST reply actions  

Hey, it’s only three goals and this is still the New York Islanders defense. Anything can happen!

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 1:27 PM MST up reply actions  

“After letting in the 4th goal, Dubnyk has shut the door”

How do these SN guys get their jobs?

by SoCalOil on Dec 31, 2011 1:31 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

It’s either there or Oiler’s management.

by eddy the lip on Dec 31, 2011 1:32 PM MST up reply actions  

You answered your own question. They aren’t necessarily paid to be accurate.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 1:33 PM MST up reply actions  

maybe they are just paid to read the stats sheet – hey I could do that

by southampton viking on Dec 31, 2011 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

More like paid to read the stats sheet with the appropriate spin.

by Kent Wilson on Dec 31, 2011 1:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Hall with 10 shot attempts in total so far

by southampton viking on Dec 31, 2011 1:33 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

So I forgot. Who are we failing for this year in the entry draft? Has consensus been finalized yet? Just want to make sure I’m on the proper bandwagon for the rest of the year.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 1:36 PM MST reply actions  

I’m not sure there is a consensus #1 d-man yet.

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by OilLeak on Dec 31, 2011 1:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Check the WJC thread. Russia preview.

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by Derek Zona on Dec 31, 2011 2:45 PM MST up reply actions  

these Isles attempts – just score effects …

by southampton viking on Dec 31, 2011 1:38 PM MST reply actions  

Jones. Busted ankle. Book it.

by David S on Dec 31, 2011 1:39 PM MST reply actions  

Whoa what? Jonesy got hurt?

by Jeremywilhelm on Dec 31, 2011 1:39 PM MST up reply actions  

That was ugly

sorry guys…think you’re right on that one.

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 31, 2011 1:40 PM MST up reply actions  

Bright side, one of hartikainen or paajarvi gets called up.

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by OilLeak on Dec 31, 2011 1:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh good. We get to watch more of Magnus being completely out of his depth. Hooraaaaaay.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 1:44 PM MST up reply actions  

On the positive side, Jones doesn’t score 15 goals and I still win my bet.

Yes, Im petty like that.

by DarrenV on Dec 31, 2011 2:20 PM MST up reply actions  

You know what? Fuck this. I am watching the alumni game.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 1:40 PM MST reply actions  

Just saw Shjon Podein score. More entertainment than the Oilers have given me all year.

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by Benjamin Massey on Dec 31, 2011 1:48 PM MST up reply actions  

You know

Other than when you play the Canucks
I’m really pulling for your Oil this year, I really like the young kids
But when you play bums like Eager and Hordi
Who are actually WORSE than useless as they do nothing but HURT your team
I can’t really feel any empathy for you

by Beantown Canuck on Dec 31, 2011 2:12 PM MST reply actions  

It’s okay, we don’t feel any empathy for us either.

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