Steve Tambellini Expects The Oilers To Make The Playoffs, Should He?
According to CBC play-by-play man Mark Lee, he had a conversation with Steve Tambellini Friday night. During the broadcast of the Oilers - Sharks Hockey Night in Canada game, Lee told the audience that Tambellini said he "…thinks they’ve got all of the pieces here to make a run at the playoffs."
As the oft-accused resident Copper & Blue pessimist, I've written about the lack of balance, lack of defense, lack of goaltender, and lack of real NHL players in Edmonton, so Tambellini's statements make me alternate between uproarious laughter and stunned disbelief as I try to figure out why in the world he said this.
Thus far, I've come up with:
- Tambellini is delusional. He looks at the roster and sees the veterans at 100% health, the young players stepping forward in a big way, and career years being the baseline expectation for a number of players. He doesn't see how fragile a significant portion of the roster really is and doesn't realize the defense, as constructed, is full of more questions than answers.
- Tambellini is putting his job on the line to inspire the team. While sitting in last place in December 2010, Tom Renney said he wouldn't be surprised when the Oilers make the playoffs. Prior to this season, Tom Renney again said his expectations were that the Oilers would make the playoffs. But continued failures demonstrate that Renney's job isn't on the line. If the coach can't motivate the team, perhaps Tambellini believes that the head of the club can do so by setting lofty expectations. At the same time those expectations put Tambellini at risk. He's the man responsible for the makeup of the team and if he expects them to make the playoffs, he has to fire the coach or sacrifice his own job when they don't. If he's held to his word by the owner, that is.
- Tambellini is saying the right things so he won't lose this young team. As the Oilers fall through the Western Conference standings, all of the second-year players (Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Magnus Paajarvi, Jeff Petry) risk finishing in last place two years running. Rather than building a winning culture (as Tambellini has talked about at length), the Oilers risk turning a young core into the Thrashers, Islanders or Blue Jackets. If none of the people in charge of the organization expect to win, why should we expect the players to win? Tambellini is putting the brakes on that by setting winning expectations and doing so in a public manner so the young Oilers can see his confidence in the team and his plan.
- Tambellini is worse at team and talent evaluation than any of us ever imagined. Except for signing Eric Belanger, Tambellini has yet to do anything of significance towards building the Oilers. All of the added talent has come through the draft and farm system while Tambellini has traded away an enormous amount of NHL talent. Each time this happens, the local media runs a "pro scouting department problem", but the above statement could indicate the issue isn't with scouting at all.
Have I missed any explanations for what Tambellini sold to CBC?
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I think last week was the last time the Oil would be in 8th place for the rest of the season… I don’t see them getting to a playoff spot even for another day this season.
See that’s what bugs me… fuck the rebuild. They have a great core, so add some players and lets be competitive NOW… it’s entirely possible but won’t happen. I honestly think we are about 2 trades away from being competitive immediately.
Rebuilds can and should include trades. Ottawa is in full rebuild mode and look, they made a trade. And (shockingly) it involved using a player from a position of depth to go get a player for a position of need.
I kinda understood what the Oilers were doing last year (didn’t agree, but understood), but this year I don’t get it at all.
But that was a horrible trade. No trade is better than bad trade.
by Captain Obvious II on Dec 19, 2011 9:33 AM MST up reply actions
If he’s held to his word by the owner, that is.
Therein lies the rub. As long as Katz continues to treat the Oilers like his toy rather than a business, nothing is going to change.
by melancholyculkin on Dec 18, 2011 7:54 PM MST reply actions
Weird
I’ve always been told that the Leafs’ problem is that their owners treat them like a business and not like a toy
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by PPP on Dec 20, 2011 6:59 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Clearly it should be treated as a Toy Business!
Who runs Toys r us? Hire them immediately!
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My real answer wasnt an option so I voted delusional :D
A GM just cant come right out and voice his true opinion. He cant just say that his team sucks and has no chance, because its his team, he built it. The media would attack him and his players and coaches would not want to play/work for him anymore. He has to do the PC thing and say playoffs or bust, because there are so few who tell the truth
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A necessary requirement of the job description of any General Manager is to lie to the media, even if it makes you sound like an idiot.
Of course he is going to say he thinks he can make the playoffs. What is he supposed to say other than that?
If I were a GM, you would never be able to tell if anything I said in public was what I actually thought. A GM is supposed to be a cypher.
How about… “we are not at the stage of the rebuild where we expect to make the playoffs on an annual basis, although according to our timeline, we expect that to change in the next one or two years. We will be aggressive at that point at making moves in order to ensure that we are a competitive team.”
That, even if I disagree (I think they need to start addressing the blue-line now), I could understand, and would seem like a fair interpretation of this roster. I continue to be alarmed by the comments coming from the GM, despite believing that the core talent assembled is on par with that of the Chicagos and Pittsburgs of the world (when people cite other failed rebuilds, the difference isn’t that they “didn’t do it right”, they just didn’t have the kind of core talent those teams had), the managing team does not inspire in me confidence that they have the ability to put in the finishing touches. I’m not sold that they will be a Chicago-like success story, or afraid they will turn into Columbus or Florida, ever rebuilding, never sucessful, but rather, that they turn into Washington or San Jose—ever dominant in the regular season, but never adjusted quite in such a way that a championship results.
by David Supina on Dec 18, 2011 9:42 PM MST up reply actions
Because Lowe gave a distinctly different timeline. Now they’re contradicting each other. He didn’t have to say it, he could’ve held to the party line.
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I go with 3. The question is whether the young team believes it. Few involved fans buy it, so why would the players who are even more invested?
What diminishes the credibility of the official Oiler line, and that I find personally distressing as a fan, is a lack of a sign, any sign that a strategy reflective of professional management is in play. If Tambellini (and Lowe by default) actually believes he has a playoff team after a lifetime in hockey, he is a world class prize winning fool, and well, that isn’t a very nice sentiment at Christmas, so we have to assume he is trying to be a spin doctor, and failing.
I think the problem lies in the management team not having a specific and laid out strategy on place. When you read quotes from or hear Mike Babcock speak, he is dead certain in his views about players and hockey. Unequivocal. The Oilers are showing that they have gray areas in decision making and it just might bite them in the ass and drive me and Rivers Q insane, hopefully not criminally.
The Oilers are flush with prospects as we know. But they are handling them like hoarders, keeping players longer than they should, like all the things in the hoarder’s yard that he couldn’t part with that begin to rot away. Too much stuff that becomes worthless.
I don’t think it is hard to decide what prospects to keep and which to deal. What is hard is predicting which guy has what it takes to step up and make it or become a top player outside of the lottery picks. ST has said he wants uptempo aggressive fast hockey. Every player on the team and in the system should suit that style, and everyone else should be cashed in to get more of them.
Defense will have to be mobile and be able to pass for the game ST wants. It makes no sense to keep Plante, Peckham, possibly Smid. What irks me is keeping them long enough after you know you don’t want them that the shine has come off. Prospects are like new toys, they’re only cool when pretty new. Plante is a pretty good defenseman, big, tough, showed well in his callups and best in OKC. I am sure teams that value speed less might have an interest in him. The Oilers don’t want him anymore, but if they keep him much longer he’s going to be worthless if not already.
That to me is poor management. Moving players that have value that you don’t want for new players is going to give you more chances at finding the best players you can and is going to make the process a lot faster. They should be aggressively pursuing high draft picks or players they want and using vets on short deals to carry the load in the short term.
And the waffling with Hemsky and Gagner is ridiculous. The constant rumours aren’t good, and they’re everywhere. Get them in a position to be dealt or lay it to rest. I am also not feeling good about Whitney and Hemsky hobbling around the ice. Talk about suspect after the Souray fiasco. Get them in better shape to play for heaven’s sake.
by FastOil on Dec 18, 2011 10:52 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
So you want to get rid of Smid, one of our better skating defenseman?
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He’s also one of the worst puck movers.
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Tambellini said he "…thinks they’ve got all of the pieces here
Well if that is the case (it isn’t), then how about a more balanced use of those pieces? I think the 4th line full of plugs is a complete waste and I like the idea of filling it with specialists instead, I would take that one further and make the 3rd/4th lines interchangeable.
Below is how I would try the lines with our available pieces (when healthy of course). All players would get even strength time in accordance with their lines abilities but it’s pretty much a 1A/1B and a 3A/3B set. In brackets are the special teams situations the players would get in addition to their EV minutes.
Smyth (PP/PK) – Horcoff (PP/PK) – Hemsky (PP) ~ 18 min
Hall (PP) – Nugent-Hopkins (PP) – Eberle (PP) ~ 17 min
Gagner (PP) – Belanger (PK) – Jones (PK) ~ 13 min
Paajarvi (PK) – Lander (PK) – Omark (PP) ~ 12 min
Just the thought of Paajarvi and Omark working another teams 4th line for even 5 min a game makes me smile.
For the record, I would easily trade 2 forwards (Hemsky/Gagner/Omark/Eager/Prospect) and/or 2 of the 5/6/7 Dmen (Peckham/Tuebert/Sutten/Chorney/Plante) and/or all of the draft picks after the first round in a package for a top 2 Dman or 2 top 4’s. Some combination of 3 or 4 going for 1 or 2 coming back as long as there is at least A player that slots in above Gilbert/Smid on the depth chart.
Add Horcoff to your list of forwards and you have me completely agreeing. That’s what is driving me nuts… a 2nd rounder and Gagner could get us a D man we need. I wonder what we would’ve had to give up to get Kaberle? Sounds like they were giving him away for free… he may have been a good fit here.
Where is this team with these extra top 4 D?
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For sure they aren’t falling out of trees but they can most definately do better than Sutton and Barker in an off season.
We have some depth at forward, none on defence and they cannot (see: Paajarvi) showcase or support enough of the forwards to keep all of their values up for an extended period of time. If they don’t trade someone while their value is high they will never win a trade or get the players they need to balance the roster.
I know that, but the fans talking points are “just trade for a top 4 D”
Valuable top 4 D that will be around for awhile aren’t going to come cheap.
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