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Thoughts on how Linus Omark and other Edmonton Oilers forwards fit into the bigger picture.


Although the Edmonton Oilers are currently playing at a level unthought of before the season began, it would be wise to remember that they are still in the course of a rebuild.  Sacrifices can and must be made in the short-term in order to achieve long-term gains. 

There has been a lot of debate on where Oilers forwards Linus Omark, Sam Gagner and Ales Hemsky fit into the franchises future.

 For clarity, Let's take a look at the Oilers forwards, both those on the team and in the prospect pipeline.

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The undisputed top line now and in the future for the Oilers is the Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Jordan Eberle line.

Shawn Horcoff, Ryan Smyth and Ales Hemsky form the current second line, but other than Hemsky, there is no future for this line in the top 6.

 I've long loved the idea of a Tre Kronor line of Anton Lander, Magnus Paajaarvi and Linus Omark. They would serve as a solid third line now, but have second line potential in the future. 

Ben Eager and Lennert Petrell should form the nucleus of the Oilers 4th line for the next few seasons, currently alongside Eric Belanger

You will notice that this leaves no room for Sam Gagner. 

In the pipeline, Teemu Hartikainen, Tyler Pitlick and Curtis Hamilton will look for spots for in top 9 over the next few seasons. 

So skip to 3-5 years in the future, the oilers are now a contender. What would the ideal forward line-up look like, comprised of a combination of the players listed above?

the Hall-Nugent Hopkins-Eberle line would stay intact. As would the Tre Kronor line of Paajaarvi-Lander-Omark. Pitlick could center Hamilton and Hartikainen. creating a sort of  Line 2a and Line 2b scenario. 

Horcoff and Smyth by this time would be reduced to the role of 4th line veteran leadership, joined by Petrell or Eager on the 4th line, with the other serving as the 13th forward. 

This leaves Ales Hemsky and Sam Gagner without futures in the orange and blue. Although talented, they lack the size and defensive ability needed for the spots they are fighting for. So the best course of action is to move them this season, and continue building up defensive prospect depth. I believe that Hemsky should be move as soon as possible. His value only goes down with time, as he invariably suffers another injury and inches closers to Unrestricted Free Agency. 

Gagner's situation is not as pressing, and he can be retained and used as the right-winger with Horcoff and Smyth until the Trade Deadline or Draft, where he can then be flipped for an asset. 

Althougb there is another option. Gagner is not much older than Omark, but is more experienced and proven. So why am I so quick to keep Linus and dump Sam? Perhaps Sam can stay, and eventually play with Pitlick and Hamilton, while Hartikainen can team up with fellow Scandinavians Paajaarvi and Lander. It's a choice the Oilers will have to make. 

You'll notice I didn't mention Jones much. He can be traded to a team looking for bottom 6 depth at anytime. 

So let's say that Hemsky and Jones are moved in the near future, where does that leave the oilers forward group? Looking pretty good.

Hall-Nugent Hopkins-Eberle
Smyth-Horcoff-Gagner
Paajaarvi-Lander-Omark
Eager-Belanger-Petrell

Similar to the line-up we've been seeing so far this season, but organised for optimum success. 

I hope you enjoyed reading this, and that it helped clarify some of the debate on the Oilers trade rumours. It also hopefully was not too long! 

Have a great day :)

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There is an underlying assumption in your post that the three Swedes will play well together. This assumption needs to be tested and I hope Renney will do that before the Oilers trade Omark away. Additionally, we have seen no evidence that the three of them can put up points like a top second line (see SJ and Vancouver for examples). Even together they may be a great third line only. Not saying that’s the case, but any forward plan needs to consider the possibility.

I therefore am looking to prospects like Pitlick, Reider, Martindale, Cornet, Hamilton, and Hartikainen to produce a couple of other second line options for the Oilers.

What this article makes me think about is that for all the young forwards the Oilers have with the big club now or coming soon, the Oilers will need to think about how they spend there first and second round picks over the next two drafts to replenish the forward prospect pool.

Like you are, I have long advocated for the trading of Hemsky, and possibly Gagner. Not because they are bad hockey players (they’re not), but because the team has some glaring needs elsewhere (hello Theo Peckman) and these are cashable assets to help fill needs without hurting the forward group materially in the short or longer term.

My worst case fear looks like this:
1) Gagner stays snake-bitten offensively and the Oilers are in the thick of it for a play-off spot come the trade deadline, so Tambo feels he CANNOT trade Hemsky. Hemsky then either walks for nothing (Sather loves brittle Europeans) or signs an extension for too much money for too long and we get to live the Hemsky injury roller coaster for years to come); and
2) Tambo trades some key prospects for a rental or two to help deliver a first round play-off exit and said rental walks, underming what this team could be 12 to 24 months from now.

Waiting to see what Tambo does. It should be interesting.

by gcw_rocks on Nov 9, 2011 9:48 AM MST reply actions  

True, the post does rely heavily on the assumption that the 'Tre Kronor' line gels well.

But i don’t see it as a great leap…Lander is a strong two-way force with some offensive ability. Paajarvi is a solid two-way player with definite offensive potential. Omark is a talented offensive player with some two-way ability. They seem like they would naturally fit we together, not just because of their nationality.

We both agree they would at least make a solid third-line option, and as you noted, there are some other solid options for a true second line. Pitlick and Hamilton seem like ideal candidates.

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by GelatinousMutantCoconut on Nov 12, 2011 3:49 PM MST up reply actions  

I still dont understand how people continue to believe Smyth and Horcoff are not legitimate options. They are only 35 and 33 years old, far from retirement yet, and they are proving this season they can still play at the top of thier game. They are the top line this year (with or without Hemsky) and I see no reason for them to slow down next year either (assuming Smyth is still here). Why all the negativity?

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by VanillaAcid on Nov 9, 2011 12:36 PM MST reply actions  

I am not sure Smyth’s going to drop off next year, but those are hard miles on his body and it would be poor planning to assume he will stay healthy and productive. Hope for the best but plan for the worst, as they say. The other factor with Smyth is figuring out how to ratch down his salary so he isn’t a cap liability when Hall, Eberle and RNH need raises. In an ideal world the Oilers would sign Smyth to a series of 1 year deals reflective of his most recent performance and expectations. I suspect he’ll get a multi-year deal instead, but it would be better for the Oilers if they went the Selanne route.

Horcoff’s injury history suggests banking on him to play material roles as he ages is also risky. This year and next there is a key role for him, but one would hope a couple of years out a players like Lander and Pitlick are pushing him down or out of the line up by playing up to thier potential. If they are, Horcoff will be the most expensive 4th line centre in the league. Would you really be upset if RNH, Pitlick and Lander had proven they are better than Horcoff come the start of the 2014/15 season?

by gcw_rocks on Nov 9, 2011 5:04 PM MST up reply actions  

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