Oilers v. Canadiens - Joshua 24:1-3a, 14-15
Then Bruce called all of the people together, both young and old, journalists and bloggers, intellectuals and emotionalists, every man, woman and child who wears the jersey of the Oildrop, but doesn't take to the ice.
Bruce said to the people, "Long ago, some of us and some of our fathers lived in a time before the Oilers, and so we worshiped at the feet of the Canadiens and Maple Leafs. But then God brought Wild Bill Hunter across the prairies, led him to Edmonton, and blessed both him and us with many things. Through him, Edmonton received Memorial Cups, the WHL, the WHA, the Oilers, Northlands Coliseum, and finally a place in the NHL."
"And so let us remember the great things that have come to us from our ancestors and let us fear Yahweh, the God of the Oilers, and cheer for the team he gave us with all of our hearts. Put away forever those old sweaters that you used to care about so much, and serve Yahweh and his team alone. Or would you prefer to cheer for a team that has the referees in their pocket and made the rules of the league to suit their purposes? Or perhaps a team that tried to exclude Edmonton from the NHL altogether? Whatever you do, I know that I and my family, will watch, cheer, complain, moan, jump up, let loose our biases, and let our blood boil for the city of Edmonton and its Oilers."
Edmonton Oilers (8-3-2) @ Les Canadiens de Montréal (5-6-2)
Bell Centre, 5:30 p.m. MST
Television: Sportsnet West
More analysis after the jump...
Home Team Scouting Report:
The Canadiens haven't won many games to start the season, but there are a lot of things that are going well. When the score is tied, the team is getting 54.4% of the shots and 52.5% of the Fenwick events during five-on-five play. Their overall numbers are slightly worse, but still well above average at 52.1% and 51.6% respectively. They're allowing the fewest shots against during four-on-five play in the league (33.8 per sixty minutes), and their power play is generating the third most shots in the league during five-on-four play (61.2 per sixty minutes). They haven't been able to turn these advantages into consistent outscoring yet, but I'd be very surprised to see the Canadiens continue to press this kind of advantage in all three game states only to end up outside the playoff picture.
Expected Lineups:
Edmonton Oilers (8-3-2):
Smyth - Horcoff - Hemsky
Hall - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
Jones - Belanger - Gagner
Eager - Lander - Petrell
Smid - Gilbert
Peckham - Potter
Barker - Petry
Khabibulin
Les Canadiens de Montréal (5-6-2):
Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gionta
Cammalleri - Desharnais - Cole
Moen - Eller - Kostitsyn
Darche - Nokelainen - Blunden
Gorges - Subban
Spacek - Weber
Gill - Diaz
Price
By the Numbers:
- With an assist in his last game against the Phoenix Coyotes, Jordan Eberle passed Scott Thornton for 100th on the Oilers' all-time regular season scoring list with 54 points. Taylor Hall is currently tied for 106th with 51, and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is tied for 199th with 12, which is just one point behind Matt Greene.
- Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle both draw a lot of penalties at even strength. Hall leads the team drawing 1.9 penalties for every sixty minutes of five-on-five ice time, and Jordan Eberle is tied for second in penalty differential (with Hall and Anton Lander but behind Magnus Paajarvi), drawing 1.1. more penalties per sixty minutes of five-on-five ice time than he takes. It's a bit odd, then, that Ryan Nugent-Hopkins has yet to draw a single penalty during five-on-five play so far this season.
- Going back to last season, Eric Belanger has played twenty-five consecutive games without scoring a goal. That's the longest drought he's had since... last season... when he went twenty-seven consecutive games without scoring a goal from November 12th, 2010 to January 10th, 2011.
- When the Oilers are short-handed, they've done a very good job at limiting the number of shots against, but they've done the best when Lennart Petrell is on the ice, allowing just 27.7 shots against for every sixty minutes of four-on-five ice time with him on the ice, compared to 43.2 overall. That overall number is good enough for fourth place in the league, but is well behind Montreal's league-leading 33.8.
- There are only three Oilers with a PDO below 100.0 this season, which speaks to the quality of the team's goaltending. The team leader is defender Cam Barker who clocks in at 106.4. And people still generally think that the guys stinks. Just imagine the rage if he wasn't getting the bounces!
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Agreed, probably my favorite so far this season.
Although as game previews go, E from Theory of Ice has him beat today
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Oh, no doubt about it.
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by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2011 5:43 PM MST up reply actions
seriously, after reading this post, then reading this quote
me thinks i might start attending church….so long as scott is preaching there
by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Nov 8, 2011 11:26 PM MST up reply actions
I thought he would never be able to top the “but” verse, but he did it.
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Thanks everyone.
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by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2011 6:17 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t know why you guys are giving Scott all the credit when 90% of it is my words.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2011 10:41 PM MST up reply actions
The SportsNet panel has a much higher opinion of Montreal fans than I do. Call me jaded, but I somehow don’t think we’ll be seeing them “ooh and aah” when Hall, Eberle or RNH “do something spectacular”.
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Just be happy Sutton isn’t playing or he would have a warrant out for his arrest by the Montreal PD if he makes a hit.
by Oiltank on Nov 8, 2011 5:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
This just in, Hemsky dislocates both his shoulders while trying to put on his Jersey.
The Edmonton Oilers - All we do is win!!
by OilLeak on Nov 8, 2011 5:26 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
There is nothing like the feeling I get when the Oil play Montreal. My bile-filled acidic hatred for the Habs gets stronger each year. Worst fans in Pro sports, period.
Let’s have a GREAT game ce soir, OILERS!
They can be pretty snobby about their team, but Vancouver fans are way worse.
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Actually, Vancouver does it after losses. We’re the ones that riot out of joy.
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The Sports Riot: First We Lose or Win, then We Set this Sucker on Fire
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Ryan Miller is Khabibulining it all up again.
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And now the Jets are Jetsing it all up again.
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https://twitter.com/paulvechkin/status/134067287341801472
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You have to be some kind of masochist. That said I’m some kind of stupid since I keep clicking on those twitter links.
"When you find yourself rooting for mediocrity – you might be an Oilers fan." - Neal Livingston
Because you know if it’s here, it must be eyebrow-raising.
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What a joke sitting Paajarvi. After playing a pretty effective game last game, and even collecting a point, he gets sent to the pressbox, just as in the same situation with Omark. If Gagner, Jones, Petrell, Eager, or Lander are performing better than Paajarvi this season, I’d like to see the evidence.
Jones is playing more effectively. He’s held his own on a legitimate NHL first line. Paajarvi is probably the better player long term, but Jones has earned his spot.
Gagner is coming back from an injury, and should probably have a couple more games to get things going.
Eager, Petrell & Lander are all worse players, but Paajarvi is wasted in a fourth-line role, and I’d sooner see him sit for a game or two than be relegated to a checking role.
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Pajaarvi Omark Lander would be interesting.
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Putting Omark and Paajarvi together at the beginning of the season didn’t seem to work well at the start of the season, and I’m not sure adding Lander would make the line much more effective unless against the worst of the opposition.
By definition that’s what the 4th line does hopefully, play against other 4th lines, and that one could kill (the opposition hopefully). They had one pretty good shift together where Omark passed out front to Lander who just couldn’t quite pull the trigger in time.
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Why is anyone wasted in a 4th line role, and why should he be on the 4th line? I’m sure he’d rather be playing on the 4th line regardless as opposed to the pressbox. If he Paajarvi is playing well with underperforming teammates as well, sitting him is just deploying assets inefficiently. We have enough penalty killers that Petrell is not needed anymore. Lets get both Swedes back in the lineup and field the best team possible, instead of old boys club 4th line useless players.
How are Lander and Petrell members of the old boys’ club by any definition?
If he were on the 4th line, Paajarvi would be getting 5-6 minutes per game, and he’d be playing with (as you pointed out) worse linemates than he’s got now. His odds of scoring go way down, and there would be even more pressure on him than there is now (despite his low stats, no one has been saying that Paajarvi is a bad player).
Looking at the players in the top nine tonight, there’s a strong argument to be made that Paajarvi has been performing worse than any of them (and that Omark was too, for that matter). He’ll probably sit for a couple of games and draw back into the lineup on Friday.
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I wish I could find the stat on drawn penalties, although there doesn’t appear to be one. Paajarvi draws a lot of penalties, while taking few himself. At a feeble 15% conversion rate this helps add to team Goal For/Game indirectly
You can find it at Behind the Net. Paajarvi has drawn a lot of penalties so far this year; last year, he was pretty middling, but had a strong differential.
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by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2011 6:22 PM MST up reply actions
I largely agree with you here, but he’d probably be playing more than 5-6 minutes per game. Lander and Petrell are both averaging over ten, which is pretty typical of fourth lines (except in the playoffs).
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by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2011 6:16 PM MST up reply actions
“When the Oilers are short-handed, they’ve done a very good job at limiting the number of shots against, but they’ve done the best when Lennart Petrell is on the ice, allowing just 27.7 shots against for every sixty minutes of four-on-five ice time with him on the ice, compared to 43.2 overall.”
Paajarvi can’t fight as well as Eager, kill penalties as well as Petrell, it’s arguable whether he has been better than the others.
You can’t have a team of 12 offensive players, and unless Paajarvi can be better offensively (or defensively) than other top 9 wingers, so he is sitting for the same reason as Omark.
You can’t have a team of 12 offensive players
You don’t believe 12 Gretzky’s would be any good?
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Unless we’re playing NHL 94, someone has to know what to do when the other team has the puck or is on a powerplay.
It’s Gretzky(s), the refs won’t call him for anything.
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Plus, Gretzky was pretty good on the PK.
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by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2011 6:23 PM MST up reply actions
Of course, if more than a couple of these Gretzkys are actually Brent and not Wayne, this experiment may fail.
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I’ve yet to see fighting win a game in the NHL, or any league for that matter.
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Well, skating really fast without creating many chances sure helped us win a lot of games when Cogliano was here. Fighting can help create momentum, but overall I agree that good hockey players are more important. I just don’t blame Renney for benching someone when the results aren’t there.
All things being even, I’d take Cogliano any day over Ben Eager.
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Fighting can help create momentum,
http://www.puckprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=222
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That showed a very small (probably insignificant) positive effect from winning a fight. Momentum and intimidation are very difficult things to quantify and predict, and previous models designed to predict the effects of fighting are not very robust.
I’m sure other teams are terrified of the numerous bad penalties they get, and 5 minutes of ice time or less of the typical enforcer.
Detroit, Boston, Vancouver etc. all seem to do okay without enforcers as well. Also to imply that professional hockey players in the NHL play any differently because of ‘intimidation’ is insulting to the players.
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Not that I’m watching for it or anything, but Ryan Jones is chasing his tail
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No kidding. That was vintage Jones.
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by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2011 5:56 PM MST up reply actions
I think we need to start counting them again. What were the fall types?
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Cam Barker might be the slowest-moving carbon-based life form in the universe.
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He and Gill should do a slow-off.
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That was really, really terrible defending. Although on the previous sequence, I thought he made a pretty good escape to get the puck over to Potter. He’s actually got pretty good hands. It’s just that the rest of his game is awful.
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by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2011 5:57 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, his hands were on display for his goal. The rest of his game is on display every shift.
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Who is killing this with Petry? Is that Peckham? He might as well be a on the bench. That was an awful shift.
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That was a really weird shift where Petry stepped up, Peckham moved across to cover, and Petrell down to cover for Peckham. I guess that’ll happen sometimes if you’re playing three along the blue-line, but it just looked kind of odd to me.
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That was Petrell? Now it makes sense.
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Ladislav Smid with his best Cam Barker imitation. That was a bad pinch attempt.
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This power play stinks – Hemsky and Gagner are trying to play the same spots on the ice.
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It got much better as soon as Hemsky moved into the slot.
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Yeah, I liked the last sequence where Hemsky attacked the slot from the far boards.
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by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2011 6:05 PM MST up reply actions
I think they just said “Dave Gagner”, for some reason I found that really amusing.
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Twice so far, Dave has rotated back to cover for a pinching D and did so without a hitch.
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Reanud Lavoie of RDS said chances were 5 to 4 for the Canadiens. Shots were 6-4 Oilers. More chances than shots is a new level of scoring inefficiency for the Canadiens.
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The even strength stuff has pretty much evened out. Its the special teams with the wacky percentages.
by Stephan Cooper on Nov 8, 2011 6:22 PM MST up reply actions
Good to see that the Canadiens continue to employ a somewhat liberal interpretation of the rules.
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It’s good to see Hemsky’s shoulder survive that fall
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Worst penalty differential in the NHL the past couple of years, I’ll point out. Though you’re right, brutal non-call.
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Two sets of NHL rules:
Montreal rules at home.
Then other rules for the other 29 teams.
Always been a joke.
You haven’t watched the team with one of the worst penalty differentials in the league these past two seasons much, have you?
by Stephan Cooper on Nov 8, 2011 6:46 PM MST up reply actions
Montreal has gotten the benefit of the doubt on calls at home since I started watching hockey 25 years ago. You can gimme any stat you want, but I’ve watched a lot of their games & it never changes. They get favorable calls at home. Period.
Every team in the league gets favourable calls at home.
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The Habs have been getting them for a century.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 8, 2011 10:53 PM MST up reply actions
What an opportunity for Lander! Who set him up?
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And shortly after that, he has a chance to dump it for the change and skates it straight into a too many men penalty.
HUA
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http://twitter.com/JohnnieOil/status/134082020895752193
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Jones makes a wonderful steal on a backcheck, then literally hands the puck over at the blue line
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A sniper in the crowd took down one of the Montreal backcheckers on the play.
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by Scott Reynolds on Nov 8, 2011 6:44 PM MST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc#t=0m08s
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That penalty on Petrell was pretty brutal. Didn’t think he touched him at all.
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Was the arm up prior to Eager crashing in there?
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Things that can’t go away fast enough:
“Flow” meaning “bad hair”
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Maybe they should just play the entire game on the penalty kill?
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Everyone is trying that same backhand deke move on Price. It’s amazing. Obviously works a lot.
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That was a nice move by Gilbert against the Pacioretty forecheck.
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That should’ve been a penalty on Barker. You would think that he knows how slow he is and he should stop trying to pull on people with his stick when he’s burnt.
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“keep an eye on that situation”
possible fight, possible injury, possible principe interview
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Neither here nor there, but just found out about flooding in Taiwan halting hard drive production. I happen to be sitting on a small cache of hard drives…ka-ching!
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You know, if I were a MTL fan, I might be a bit upset by not getting a whistle after that non-goal.
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It was Khabibulin that responsible for the rule change that they could have reviewed the play even with no whistle. In game 6 of the 2004 final the puck went off the foot of Khabilbulin, but over the line but since there was no whistle, there was no review. Calgary would have won the Stanley Cup as that would have been the go ahead goal in the third period.
Khabibulin makes a clean stop, no rebound.
It’s going to be awhile before I get used to typing that.
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I thought sure that was going to kick right onto someone’s stick
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http://twitter.com/msccust/status/134096263527403521
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Seems to me that Plekanec and Cole had monstrous periods
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Yes, but do they have strong muscular legs?
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Plekanec has been head to head with the kid line. Renney can’t avoid the matchup.
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He’s certainly been doing his job; Hall-RNH-Eberle have been completely shut down for 40 minutes.
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And they’re coughing up chances left and right
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would it make sense for Renney to break up the kid line on the road?
by Passive Voice on Nov 8, 2011 7:26 PM MST up reply actions
Yes, but dear lord, keep it quiet, lest you be accused of being a big meany
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but so if he’s coaching to win this year, which at least sort of appears to be the case, why doesn’t he do it?
by Passive Voice on Nov 8, 2011 7:32 PM MST up reply actions
They haven’t played as well on the road as at home, but it’s a small sample size so far (five road games before tonight, and I don’t think they were together for the first one). And they’ve had chances; this is the first game where they’ve been utterly dominated.
That said, I think it’s time to try switching things up on the road.
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And they’ve had chances; this is the first game where they’ve been utterly dominated.
Before tonight:
RNH Home Adj. Corsi/60: 11.03
RNH Road Adj. Corsi/60: -19.61
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Principe to Spector on the Canadiens:
“This is a team, unlike the Oilers, who want to make the playoffs and then do something while they’re there”
You have to be kidding me.
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I’m pretty sure the takeaway there is that the Oilers don’t want to make the playoffs…
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Another chance against there against the 4-93-14 line
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I’ve only started watching since 9 minutes left in the 2nd… but the Oilers seem to be ‘getting their show run’ by the Habs.
Oh, I wouldn`t worry, they’re very good at what they do. Or don’t do, in this case.
Thanks for trying to raise my spirits though. ;)
Looks a bit like the immovable object meeting the irresistible force here. Oilers are bound and determined to surrender the lead and the Habs aren’t finishing.
by TakeoutArtist on Nov 8, 2011 7:45 PM MST up reply actions
http://twitter.com/Kero0rr/status/134095894407688192
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Cam Barker is awesome to watch on the ice. He does the funniest stuff.
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This is the kind of game that Oilers we know and love give up two late to lose on some ridiculously stupid play.
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First decent shift in forever for the Hall line. Pleks and company did a good job of keeping them out of the dangerous ice though.
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Renney has ’em on the bench. 12 mins so far.
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Petrell was boogeying to get back on that backcheck on Desharnais
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Typical Habs game.
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Gagner is having a helluva nice little game here.
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He has been one of the best players on the ice tonight.
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Fourth line takes a shift with 2 minutes to go ?
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Smyth-Horcoff-Hemsky had an amazing night. Not too many Oilers did, but those three were ridiculous.
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This was one of the worst games I’ve seen the Oilers play in a while. Khabibulin kept this from being embarrassing (never thought I’d type that). Gagner might actually become that solid 2nd line 2 way centre we’ve all be hoping for, at the ripe old age of 22.
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http://twitter.com/NiqueQ/status/134112600425369601
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You have 3 of easy virtue and a half dozen bottles of Irish whiskey at home after calling your boss up and giving him a few choice words?
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Tough game, but I’m happy enough for the win. 3-1 makes the game sound a lot more lopsided than it was, though.
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The game was that lopsided, just in the other direction.
by Stephan Cooper on Nov 8, 2011 8:08 PM MST up reply actions
https://twitter.com/Dullaxe/status/134107803282448384
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