Oilers v. Avalanche - Ecclesiastes 9:11-12 (A Classic)
by Scott Reynolds on Nov 26, 2011 4:30 PM MST
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PrintThis is what I have noticed about what transpires on the ice:
The game is not always given to the fast,
and victory does not always present itself to the strong.
Wise management is not always rewarded,
and strong underlying numbers do not guarantee a win.
Time and chance happen to them all.
No team knows when its hour has come.
Just as a Wild fish gets caught in a cruel net,
Or a tree is felled after years of standing by an Avalanche,
so some fans grow accustomed to luck
and think it skill. When the luck turns
they are devastated by the mounting losses.
Edmonton Oilers (12-8-2) @ Colorado Avalanche (9-12-1)
Pepsi Center, 5:00 p.m. MST
Television: CBC
More analysis after the jump...
Home Team Scouting Report:
The Colorado Avalanche have a terrible record. That was also true in 2010-11, probably should have been true in 2009-10, and was most definitely true in 2008-09. The reason is that the Avalanche were a terrible team that was given a one-year reprieve from the basement thanks to some great goaltending from Craig Anderson. Here's the thing though. They're a pretty good team this year. Shot differential? +4.6 per game. A little of that comes from playing from behind so much, so what about their Fenwick with the score tied at even strength? +319 -300, or a very solid 51.4%. Perhaps most encouraging of all, it's the good young players leading the way - Gabriel Landeskog, for example has the best Corsi rate on the team (+23.0 per sixty minutes of five-on-five ice time) despite starting more than half of his shifts in the offensive zone. So what's wrong? They aren't getting any love from the percentages. Not a single regular has a PDO of 100 or better five-on-five; no one with an on-ice shooting percentage above 8% and no one with an on-ice save percentage above 93%. After trading away a first-round pick for a goalie, that's got to be particularly galling for both management and the team's fans. Still, the percentages should turn around, and the Avalanche should be able to get out of the bottom five. Heck, they're close enough to the pack that, with some luck, they might make a run into the playoffs.
Expected Lineups:
Edmonton Oilers (12-8-2):
Hall - Horcoff - Hemsky
Smyth - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
Jones - Belanger - Gagner
Petrell - Lander - Hordichuk
Smid - Gilbert
Whitney - Petry
Peckham - Teubert
Dubnyk
Colorado Avalanche (9-12-1):
Jones - Stastny - Hejduk
Landeskog - Duchene - Lindstrom
Porter - O'Reilly - Winnik
Galiardi - McClement - Kobasew
O'Brien - Quincey
Hejda - Wilson
O'Byrne - Hunwick
Varlamov
By the Numbers:
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Milan Hejduk has scored 0.59 points per game so far this season. If he finishes the year at that level, the thirty-five-year-old would match the worst offensive season of his career in terms of total output while playing significantly more minutes. I think that it was a great idea to make Hejduk the team's captain, but unfortunately, it looks like he might be slowing down.
- Then again, maybe Hejduk will have a resurgence like fellow oldster, Ryan Smyth. Smyth has never scored more than 68 points in a season, but with 24 points already this season, he's on pace for 89, and already more than halfway to last season's total of 47. He's not likely to sustain his current scoring pace over the whole season, but if he does, it could be one of the more heart-wrenching contract negotiations. I mean, if I had a career year at age thirty-six, I don't know that I'd be in any kind of big hurry to sign a one-year contract, but if I were the Oilers, I wouldn't be in any big hurry to sign a thirty-six-year-old to a multi-year deal either.... May Smytty's love of Edmonton of prevail!
- Ryan Smyth is also one of two Oilers that ranks in the NHL's top ten in points (Ryan Nugent-Hopkins), one of three Oilers that ranks in the NHL's top twenty (Jordan Eberle), and one of four that ranks in the NHL's top forty (Taylor Hall). The last time that any of those things were true would have been... a couple of decades ago and then some?
- This whole trading for Semyon Varlamov thing isn't working out too well, but not really in the way that I was expecting. The Avalanche forwards and defensemen have actually been better than I had expected, but Varlamov himself has been awful. His even strength save percentage is a lowly .905, and the usual shot quality excuses are getting blown to bits by Jean-Sebastien Giguere, who's standing tall at .931. I thought that the Avalanche would lose a great pick out of this deal, but I also thought they'd be getting a very good goalie. Their fans were hoping that only half of that would be true. So far, it's the wrong half.
- Some of these scoring droughts are getting ridiculous: Eric Belanger, Magnus Paajarvi, and Sam Gagner are all among the league's top fifteen forwards in terms of total ice time without a goal. Eric Belanger is #1 with a bullet with 341:54 in total minutes, including 38:59 on the power play.
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They’re a pretty good team this year.
That O’Reilly line (with Landeskog) is the goods. The underlying numbers are so good that I expect Landeskog to make a heck of a run in points very soon
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landeskog’s numbers are fucking retarded this year.
by Passive Voice on Nov 26, 2011 6:36 PM MST up reply actions
2.75 seasons until he can be offer-sheeted
by Passive Voice on Nov 26, 2011 6:36 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, well, that ain’t happening. Amazing rookie season, though.
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by Scott Reynolds on Nov 26, 2011 6:43 PM MST up reply actions
Can you imagine if your team passed that guy up in the draft?
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 6:44 PM MST up reply actions
you’re right, maybe under the new cba we can offer sheet after 2 years
by Passive Voice on Nov 26, 2011 6:52 PM MST up reply actions
GOILLERRRRZZZXXZZZXXXX
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 4:51 PM MST reply actions
I dont know
Avs at home after a bad loss
Oil away after a good win (hey beating the ‘curse’ lol)
I think they will come out hard – not sure that it will end up well for the Oilers …
by southampton viking on Nov 26, 2011 4:54 PM MST reply actions
well considering how the start went I shouldnt have been
by southampton viking on Nov 26, 2011 5:22 PM MST up reply actions
This anthem singer is so terrible that the game can’t possibly be worse. Thanks, Colorado!
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 5:14 PM MST reply actions
Petry in, not Plante. That’s good.
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The STREAK if over!!!
Thank god… no pressure until 2017 to score his next goal.lol Varlamov was definitely worth first round pics for that one.lmao
Am I the only one who saw Gagner get the puck to Smid, with Varlamov completely assholed and spinning in his crease, and thought “oh god Smid’s going to dump it into the corner”?
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 5:20 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I thought it was going back to Gagner.
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Did you see Jones holding up the goalie there
by southampton viking on Nov 26, 2011 5:20 PM MST reply actions
Awesome. Just awesome, Theo. He left his damn position to go fight Wilson and abandoned Teubert and Dubnyk.
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Theo, next time, don’t forget about the play and try to fight Wilson. Forget about the play and paralyze him.
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 5:24 PM MST up reply actions
Thanks for that boarding call when Wilson tried to paralyze one of our best players, you fucking stripes.
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 5:23 PM MST reply actions
Wilson would have seen the proverbial stop sign (although Hall turned into it slightly to chase the puck; if he hasn’t he would have gone in face-first instead of arm-first). Hall was, what, eighteen inches from the boards?
It’s not five and a game but it’s two.
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 5:28 PM MST up reply actions
His back wasn’t turned, he wasn’t defenseless.
Not sure how it’s boarding.
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It’s not boarding, it wasn’t even charging. as clean as clean gets. Hall put his arm up to stabilize and that’s why his shoulder popped out. If he keeps his arms tucked and leaps into the boards that’s a different outcome entirely.
by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Nov 26, 2011 6:23 PM MST up reply actions
Just turned on the game. I can’t believe I missed a Smid goal. That’s a once in a lifetime rarity.
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And a Hall injury, though that’s not at all rare.
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Is he out of the game?
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by Ben Johnston on Nov 26, 2011 5:31 PM MST up reply actions
Nope. He’s already taken another shift. You need a scotsman and a sword to stop him.
Or a Blue Jacket and a fight.
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by Derek Zona on Nov 26, 2011 5:33 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
He’s awesome to watch, but if he keeps eating big hits, it’ll eventually catch up with him.
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by Ben Johnston on Nov 26, 2011 5:35 PM MST up reply actions
Nice coverage by renowned hardman Brad Gilbert.
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 5:29 PM MST reply actions
Smid shoots again! Wide but I think he’s got ideas! BOBBY ORR
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 5:30 PM MST reply actions
Whitney and Petry didn’t work well together against Minnesota and they aren’t doing well again tonight.
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Whitney looks like he needs to get his legs
by southampton viking on Nov 26, 2011 5:36 PM MST up reply actions
Oh well, I’m off. This one is on DVR.
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Looks like he’s not feeling too good after that original hit. Shaken up again there.
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by Scott Reynolds on Nov 26, 2011 5:45 PM MST up reply actions
Eric Belanger used to be good, right? I’m sure Eric Belanger used to be good.
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 5:44 PM MST reply actions
SO BEN EAGER HOW’S THAT DETERRENCE GOING
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 5:46 PM MST reply actions
Huh. Jones playing on the power play. Did a good job of setting that screen too.
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Huh. Belanger playing on the power play. He’s shitty at that too.
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 5:48 PM MST up reply actions
Late in…Smid scored?! Can the Higgs boson be far behind?
by eddy the lip on Nov 26, 2011 5:49 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
You wouldnt believe it – he beat all 5 guys twice over stickhandling around them then went spin-o-rama round the goalie – highlight reel for sure …
by southampton viking on Nov 26, 2011 5:53 PM MST up reply actions
I thought the way he deliberately turned the puck over just so he could strip it back was a little gratuitous.
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 5:54 PM MST up reply actions
WTF, how did I miss that!
Damn niece and nephew. This is what half a decade of putrid Oilers hockey has done to me…I actually had to form bonds with my family and now they expect me to spend time with them when there’s an Oilers game on.
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Beauty pass by Gagner to find Belanger. Naturally, it’s Jones who gets the goal off Belanger’s rebound.
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Jones is an opportunist, maybe he’s been taking lessons from Smyth this year.
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Hey, it was Jones who made the steal and soft feed to Gagner to set up the first goal. That was a real good play, a well-earned assist.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Nov 26, 2011 9:22 PM MST up reply actions
I get knocked down! But I get up again!
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 6:11 PM MST reply actions
It’s really a shame that Copper & Blue has had to move to plan B on goal music due to budget cuts.
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by Ben Johnston on Nov 26, 2011 6:13 PM MST up reply actions
Remember, kids, if it’s one line it’s fair use!
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scoring from the bottom 6 today eh ?
by southampton viking on Nov 26, 2011 6:12 PM MST reply actions
If we give Peckham two sticks, he’ll be Gilbert?
(Visiting relatives, so I’m strictly peanut-gallery tonight)
by eddy the lip on Nov 26, 2011 6:20 PM MST up reply actions
Paajarvi cannot throw his weight around…He’ll move to D once one of Gilbert or Whitney leaves permanently
by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Nov 26, 2011 6:27 PM MST reply actions
Not yet, but he’s got the frame for added weight and strength, he needs to concentrate on his strength workouts in the off-season.
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Fuck that man, it’s in your brain, it’s something you’re born with…. some guys can hit through people some guys can’t, MPS can’t
by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Nov 26, 2011 6:41 PM MST up reply actions
Try to tell that to Andrew Cogliano, strength matters. Pajaarvi does not feel comfortable in that role yet. He needs to develop and mature, both physically and mentally
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Look at RNH, he can hit through guys even though he’s 170lbs…
“tell that to Andrew Cogliano” ….touche
by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Nov 26, 2011 6:46 PM MST up reply actions
In all fairness, Paajarvi is not as nimble and agile as RNH, hard to be when your as big as Paajarvi.
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true….the good thing and i think what you’re alluding to is that once MPS is stronger, guys won’t be able to knock him down…
by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Nov 26, 2011 6:58 PM MST up reply actions
Gibby made a nice block with his skate there, bet it doesn’t even get counted so cutty
by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Nov 26, 2011 6:40 PM MST up reply actions
Plus we’re being outhit! GETTING OUR SHOW RUN!
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 6:39 PM MST up reply actions
Hordichuk leading in hits though so far
by southampton viking on Nov 26, 2011 6:52 PM MST up reply actions
Hmmnn… that Landeskog line is quite good.
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by OilLeak on Nov 26, 2011 6:41 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I’m not going to watch this one, but have to say, yeah, like I said, that line is the goods.
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It makes such a big difference when the guy along the boards has time (or takes the time) to make a pass. Nugent-Hopkins didn’t and just bumped the puck up the boards right back to the Avs; Horcoff did, and made a pass right on the tape to get the Oilers out.
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totally agree, hand grenades are brutal cause it makes the guy you’re passing too look bad. It’s so important in hockey not to “head man the puck” but to pass to the guy who balances between most time available and reasonable scoring area
by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Nov 26, 2011 6:44 PM MST up reply actions
Its an odd game – I just fear that the Oilers may tire in the 3rd
by southampton viking on Nov 26, 2011 6:48 PM MST reply actions
The game’s moving pretty slowly, though. The intensity seems maybe a half-step low for both teams; the Oilers are conserving energy, the Avalanche are falling into the lull and haven’t got the morale or the skill to buck out of it (a few exciting breaks aside).
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 6:50 PM MST up reply actions
Oh god someone on Twitter thinks I’m a Leafs fan. Am burning the Internet now.
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by Benjamin Massey on Nov 26, 2011 6:48 PM MST reply actions
You’re not? I thought you had deserted C&B for PPP…
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by Ben Johnston on Nov 26, 2011 6:52 PM MST up reply actions
Gagner is on fire tonight.
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by OilLeak on Nov 26, 2011 7:06 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
HE’S SOFTER THAN BUTTERSCOTCH PUDDING. TRADE HIM WHILE HE STILL HAS VALUE!!
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Why trade a skilled player entering the Prime of his career?
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Do I detect a certain…ambivalence?
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by Ben Johnston on Nov 26, 2011 7:10 PM MST up reply actions
AMBIVAWHA?!!? DON’T USE YOUR FANCY WORDS WITH ME BOY! I SAID TRADE DA BUM!
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by OilLeak on Nov 26, 2011 7:16 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d, as long as you hook me up with some of whatever the hell you’re on.
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by Ben Johnston on Nov 26, 2011 7:19 PM MST up reply actions
He should get the burning sensation checked out then.
"When you find yourself rooting for mediocrity – you might be an Oilers fan." - Neal Livingston
His game has been coming on each day. He’s…good.
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Avs were keying in on Gagner in the third. The avs realized that Gagner was the only one creating any offense. Smart move because the rest of the team looked lazy.
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by OilLeak on Nov 26, 2011 8:36 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
It’s about time he gets back to center. And gets some linemates.
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Wow. The Avs looked poor for a while there before they finally scored.
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Extremely poor. Entering the zone with two extra men should not be that hard.
Nice goal, though.
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by Ben Johnston on Nov 26, 2011 7:12 PM MST up reply actions
now I realise my feed is a little behind
by southampton viking on Nov 26, 2011 7:17 PM MST up reply actions
I don’t know if the boys have it in them to score another goal. I think they used up all their magic points to activate Smid’s goal scoring ability. Would have been more judicious to use those points to have Eberle score 3 goals instead…his skill costs less.
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Never underestimate the power of Smyth.
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by Ben Johnston on Nov 26, 2011 7:21 PM MST up reply actions
I never thought I’d see Jones stirring the drink on a line with Belanger.
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I wouldn’t mind seeing Gagner or Jones on the wing with Horcoff and Hemsky instead of Belanger at the moment.
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Belanger looked godawful in the last period, the only one I saw. Man just seems to try to shoot on net regardless of situation, usually not a bad idea, but christ you have to pick your spots. He’s death in the offensive zone right now.
Gagner is still skating with knee issues, so hopefully it’s improving. Wonder what he’d be like if he started out of the gate at 100%.
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Gagner is still skating with knee issues, so hopefully it’s improving. Wonder what he’d be like if he started out of the gate at 100%.
He’s been excellent over the last week.
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Radek Dvorak is the guy I’d think.
Montreal just got robbed on a horrible non-whistle from the refs. Price had the puck frozen under his glove for about 5 Mississippis before Neil came around, hooked his stick under Price’s arm, lifted it, took the puck out, and scored. Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving team, but I’d be super pissed if I was a Habs fan right now.
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