Oilers v. Canucks - Play Safe!
by Scott Reynolds on Oct 1, 2011 4:30 PM MDT
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PrintThe Oilers won last night in Minnesota, but the win wasn't the story. The story was Taylor Fedun who was tripped into the boards and ended up with a complex fracture to his femur. When Derek wrote about the incident this morning, he said:
The debate on no-touch icing is already under way, though I don't believe this play should be used as evidence for either side of the debate.
I couldn't disagree more. To my mind, this is exactly the kind of play that should be used to show those who have the power to facilitate change that no-touch icing really should be implemented. I think they should do it immediately, but as with most big institutions, change doesn't come quickly with the NHL (unless it's because of Sean Avery). Still, I was encouraged when Taylor Hall spoke out on the issue immediately after the game:
Hoping for the best with Fedun. Need to get rid of touch icings. If not this kind of thing will keep happening.
Couldn't agree more. Maybe we'll see it next year. And tonight? I just hope everyone can stay healthy.
Edmonton Oilers @ Vancouver Canucks
Rogers Arena, 8:00 p.m. MDT
Television: CBC
More analysis after the jump...
Expected Lineup:
Edmonton Oilers:
Smyth - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
Hall - Horcoff - Green
Hartikainen - O'Marra - Brule
Petrell - Lander - Keller
Barker - Gilbert
Peckham - Petry
Sutton - Potter
Khabibulin
Dubnyk
Notes from Camp:
- First off, those lineups are my own best guess as opposed to having an actual source. With back-to-back games, I figure we'll see all six forwards that were missing last night (and those top two lines have been practicing together), and then all of the bubble boys. On the back-end, it's just a lefty with a righty, but no matter which way I mix and match, it's pretty underwhelming.
- On the other side, the Canucks have taken some flack for abusing the league's rules regarding NHL players actually playing in the pre-season (they signed a bunch of guys to PTOs in order to avoid dressing their own NHLers), but they'll be dressing a real lineup tonight, which should be a really good test for Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, and for all of those guys competing for jobs on the fourth line.
- The injuries just in the pre-season have been numerous to say the least, but there's still no word on the severity of the injury to Taylor Chorney's knee or Ladislav Smid's shoulder (although Tom Renney described Smid's injury as "a bit of a chronic kind of thing"), so they may well be back before the regular season opener, which isn't until October 9th. Ben Eager has also talked about being ready to start the year, so even though this run of injuries is concerning, it may not be as bad as it seems.
- If Smid, Chorney, and Ryan Whitney are going to be out for a while, the Oilers may consider some of the options that will be available on the waiver wire. Given that these players will eventually be coming back, I expect that the club will wait to find someone on a two-way contract so that they're not stuck paying a guy NHL bucks all year long if he ends up in the AHL.
- There are a few guys on this roster who won't make the team, but there are only four guys in the (hypothetical) lineup who didn't play at least one game in the NHL last season: Nugent-Hopkins, Petrell, Lander, and Ryan Keller (who's an injury away from making this team as a defenseman).
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Hall tweeted and a couple of asshats started ragging on him telling him he needs to be in the league longer before he can bitch about icings.
What a pair of idiots.
In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!
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HA! that’s funny….it’s not like Taylor Hall has been chasing down icings since he was 4 years old or anything
by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Oct 1, 2011 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Agreed, those two ought to experience what it’s like to be rubbed out while chasing down an iced puck before beaking off.
by TakeoutArtist on Oct 1, 2011 5:42 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
scott you watching the leafs/wings game right now?
by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Oct 1, 2011 5:17 PM MDT reply actions
I can’t believe Exelby has is wearing an NHL jersey
by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Oct 1, 2011 5:24 PM MDT reply actions
Just popping in to say
hello
hoping for a great game of hockey to watch :) (though of course my wishes for the outcome probably don’t match yours :P)
Go Canucks Go!
ot - the Nashville jerseys sure are bright
but I don’t think I like them (first time I saw them on ice was the highlights before the game tonight) I think I prefer the old ones lol
Go Canucks Go!
Bad luck for Potter that Samuelsson picked that out of the air. Not quick enough to recover though, and I fear that’ll be the case for a few of the defenders on this roster.
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ya that’s a play that works 9 times out of 10 in the AHL, 5 out of 10 in the show
by One_Roy_Save_On_The_Calendar on Oct 1, 2011 11:10 PM MDT up reply actions
“What the Oilers are calling successful surgery.”
Scott Oake clearly knows the Oilers well.
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lol that’s ok the other guy called CoHo “Cody Hansen” or maybe he was talking about Hansen. Either way he was wrong lol
Go Canucks Go!
I was being sincere! Reminded me of the whole Colin Fraser thing.
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by Scott Reynolds on Oct 1, 2011 8:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Lander has looked really good. He has a great ability to read where the open areas of the ice are really quickly.
In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!
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Agreed, though I’ve mostly noticed him positively on the PK.
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by Scott Reynolds on Oct 1, 2011 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions
It’s the new and improved Gritty Gilbert!
Fuck breakout passes, he’s kicking ass and taking names now!
In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!
Tactical contributor to the Copper & Blue and just as boring on the twitters... @dawgbone98
God I hate Weekes, give Lapierre credit for what? Getting tooled? He couldn’t turtle quick enough at the begining.
by Jeremywilhelm on Oct 1, 2011 9:16 PM MDT up reply actions
He couldn’t turtle quick enough at the beginning.
He quite literally couldn’t!
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by Scott Reynolds on Oct 1, 2011 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions
Nugent-Hopkins gets run over, but the result is a scrum that ends with Max Lapierre in a fight with Theo Peckham. I know that Derek hates the useless fights, but for me, it’s times like this that it’s hard not to appreciate Theo Peckham.
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Except it was Osterovich who hit Hall.
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Oh, I’m well aware. I actually thought the hit was fine, and was surprised Oreskovich got a penalty. But I don’t much like Lapierre.
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by Scott Reynolds on Oct 1, 2011 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Got it for charging. One of those borderline ones.
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I don’t think the Edler hit deserves a suspension. Looked like he was going for body position and the hit to the head wasn’t intentional. I’d have to see the play again, but I don’t think he realised Hall was bent over at the time.
In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!
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It’ll be interesting to see what happens on this. I get the feeling that if it’s a hit to the head, the guy is going to get suspended, even if it’s just the one game.
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by Scott Reynolds on Oct 1, 2011 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Oilers looked lost on that goal. Hard to put it on any one guy (for me). Just seems that they weren’t all sure about positioning, but not sure who exactly was the culprit (likely either Petry or Peckham).
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Oh, most definitely.
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by Scott Reynolds on Oct 1, 2011 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions
The ages of the skaters on the ice were 18, 19, 21, 24 & 24. It was bound to happen.
In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!
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Less debate to my mind on that Sturm hit. He’s probably going to be out to start the year.
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he will be, I don’t think it was intentional but he needed to adjust his check and didn’t.
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Yeah, I don’t think he was trying to hurt him, but it seems that the league is moving toward “reckless” as the minimum standard (instead of “intentional”).
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by Scott Reynolds on Oct 1, 2011 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions
yep, and it seemed almost as if sturm slowed a bit but it will probably be a suspension because the onus now is put on the checker to avoid the danger.
Not sure though if it should ALWAYS be on the checker though but the current precedent puts the responsibility on the checker and none on the player getting hit
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Providing the player being hit doesn’t move to put themselves in a position to be hit in the head at the last possible second, the onus should be on the hitter.
Same idea as hitting from behind, if you are facing away from the boards and turn just before I hit you, that’s not the hitters fault.
In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!
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Hartikainen goes down untouched for (at least) the second time. Must be taking skating lessons from Jones.
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… or the Canucks
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 2, 2011 1:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Khabibulin played it well for a quadriplegic.
In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!
Tactical contributor to the Copper & Blue and just as boring on the twitters... @dawgbone98
The debate on no-touch icing is already under way, though I don’t believe this play should be used as evidence for either side of the debate.
When groups of people use a single event to legislate, it always turns out poorly. The evidence for no-touch icing was strong before this hit. The last thing we need is “Taylor’s Law”
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It’s not “the” evidence, but it’s another piece of that evidence. Of course it should be used. It is very far from being the only such piece. Call it Exhibit Z.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Oct 2, 2011 1:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Agreed you add that to the other injuries that have happened and you have a perfect reason to take it away, a guys career can be over before it started and I know it happens and injuries happen but changing the icing doesn’t effect the game and a guy slamming into the boards trying to touch the puck for an icing isn’t something I would consider a “hockey play.”
Exactly right. There’s plenty of evidence, and this is just one more example to put on the pile.
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by Scott Reynolds on Oct 2, 2011 7:06 AM MDT up reply actions
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