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Tyler Pitlick Comes in at #7 on the Top 25 Under 25

Tyler Pitlick is in our spotlight now, but might he be falling into darkness? (Photo by Harry How/Getty Images)

Tyler Pitlick is good. That's obvious. Having made the move from the United States college ranks to the Western Hockey League, Pitlick has emerged as a well-rounded scoring star with the title-contending Medicine Hat Tigers. He was once criticized for shooting too often, but now he seems to shoot just the right amount. He's got good size, good feet, quick hands... there aren't many people who'll describe Pitlick negatively - the guy's gone out and gotten results. He's become a core player on a good team in a tough league, and he has no obvious warts beyond a few mental issues that experience will probably iron out. And we all remember Derek's famous pronouncement during the SB Nation mock entry draft: "Being able to select Pitlick with the 31st pick was a complete surprise and I don't expect that this option will be available to Steve Tambellini and Stu MacGregor." Fantastic. Order his jersey already.

Yet, this January, we find that Pitlick has somehow slipped a spot from his previous crack at the Top 25 Under 25. After debuting at #6, the Licker of Pits finds himself still strongly in the top ten but a less impressive seventh place with Martin Marincin right on his heels.

What happened? Is Pitlick backsliding? Are there causes for concern in this seemingly strong prospect after all? Is it just a predictable normalization after the initial euphoria of us actually selecting this kid, or might there actually be reason for a pessimistic look at Tyler Pitlick?

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RankPlayer DOBDraftedYearBen
Bruce
Derek
JonScott
7 Tyler Pitlick
11/01/91
31 2010
6 12 7 8 10

 

Previous Rank: 6

Nobody, it seems, feels quite the same way about Pitlick that they did right after draft day. Last time around, Derek ranked Pitlick fifth and Jonathan put him sixth, while Scott, Bruce, and I all clustered at the number nine position, but none of us have kept the same opinion this time around. I've been sufficiently impressed by Pitlick's WHL play to run up up to sixth, making me the ranking optimist thanks to Derek and Jonathan's slightly tempered expectations. Meanwhile, Scott barely kept Pitlick in his top ten and Bruce actually knocked Pitlick down to twelfth, with fellow 2010 draftee Curtis Hamilton one of those passing him by.

Why the revolution in opinion when Pitlick has been doing everything asked of him? 1.14 points per game in the WHL at age 19 isn't blowing the doors off by any means, but it's perfectly respectable: Jordan Eberle only managed 1.21 in his 19-year-old season, and Eberle had two years of WHL experience under his belt, whereas Pitlick is taking his first crack at the junior circuit. Moreover, Pitlick's history suggests that he's got the skill component down, and unlike the likes of Eberle, Pitlick has also cultivated a reputation as a two-way player. While he's by no means an elite shutdown forward - and in fact moved to the wing in high school to avoid playing centre against college players in their early twenties - he's better than the average 19-year-old offense-first WHL rookie.

Perhaps it's Pitlick's bad luck that he's playing for such a good team. Pitlick runs a mere third in scoring among the Tigers, well back of are-you-kidding-me 19-year-old Linden Vey (who?) and undrafted overager Wacey Hamilton. Pitlick's not in terrible company - he's four points ahead of first-rounder Emerson Etem, for one - but he's a long way from being the alpha dog. More shockingly, Pitlick is a mere +3 compared to Vey's +27, Etem's +25, and Hamilton's +10. Pitlick has the worst plus/minus among the team's regular skill forwards, an appalling statistic for a guy who we're told is responsible and has his head glued on straight.

Ultimately, I'm still defending Pitlick. His skill is obvious and there's nothing physically holding him back. It's hard to penalize him for playing with the strong Tigers, especially when he performed so well with a medicre Minnesota State-Mankato team last year. He's one of the few second-tier Oilers prospects in whom I do not doubt: there's no question in my mind that, barring injury or sudden motivational failure, Tyler Pitlick will be in the NHL someday.

It would set my mind at ease if he tore up the Western league a bit, though.

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I have a small issue. Eberle’s 19 yr old season was his last season in the dub, his draft plus 2 season. Because pitlick has an early birthdate, his 19yr old season is the draft plus 1season just like Hamilton and martindale.

Rebuild is a convenient excuse for GMs who dont wish to do their jobs

by SumOil on Jan 28, 2011 5:53 PM MST reply actions  

So, you’re saying you saw him good. Because there’s no statistical reason to keep him ahead of a lof the players below him in the top 25. And as Sum mentioned, Eberle’s 19 year old season was actually much better, at 1.86 PPG.

by Double DD on Jan 28, 2011 6:20 PM MST reply actions  

Pitlick is having a very good season. I have no issues with his numbers or anything. It seems like he wont be a top offensive forward in the nhl but a good player on the middle two lines.

Rebuild is a convenient excuse for GMs who dont wish to do their jobs

by SumOil on Jan 28, 2011 6:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Remember, I’m the one among the C&B writers who doesn’t think “saw him good” is a swear word.

(Although you and Sum are right about the Eberle 19-year-old thing. The Copper & Blue regrets the error.)

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 28, 2011 7:19 PM MST up reply actions  

There are two of us Ben.

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by Lisa McRitchie on Jan 31, 2011 8:30 AM MST up reply actions  

Three at least. I am always trying to find the balance between statistical measures and saw-him-good/bad/ugly. Balance is more likely to be weighted toward the stat side just because of a way larger sample size, but there are things you can see that the stats don’t pick up.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 31, 2011 4:28 PM MST up reply actions  

There are a few things here that you’ve overlooked.

FIrst, he led all WCHA rookies in shots on goal as a rookie.
Second, he’s in his second new league in as many years.
Third, he’s in his second new league at a new position (RW)

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by Derek Zona on Jan 28, 2011 9:05 PM MST reply actions  

He didn’t lead WCHA freshmen in SOG. He actually finished 9th. Jumping from a crappy NCAA team to a above average WHL team should have made his life easier. As should moving from C to W, with the subsequent decrease in responsibility.

by Double DD on Jan 29, 2011 12:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Ah. Didn’t realize he fell off that far.

He was a W in the NCAA as well.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 29, 2011 12:11 PM MST up reply actions  

There are a few other things here that you’ve overlooked.

FIrst, you guys actually ranked him 13th overall.
Second, his name is Devan Dubnyk.
Third, he wont be drafted for almost a decade.

At least thats what’s showing on my screen!

It's a catastrophic success. (Read: GO OILERS GO)

by Joe Girth on Jan 28, 2011 9:31 PM MST reply actions  

Haha…I just saw that!! lol

Rebuild is a convenient excuse for GMs who dont wish to do their jobs

by SumOil on Jan 28, 2011 9:40 PM MST up reply actions  

From the couple of Tigers games I’ve seen, he doesn’t play a lot on the top line (that Vey line rips shit up — holy moley), so that probably explains the tempered offensive numbers: reduced opportunity across the board on the second line.

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by Doogie2K on Jan 31, 2011 6:54 AM MST reply actions  

yeah, when I saw Pitlick last week he was second line, but point on the first powerplay unit.

Vey was dynamite.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 31, 2011 4:29 PM MST up reply actions  

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