The Rejects, Revisited: A Second Look At The Under-25 Under 25
There was a time, not that long ago, when the Edmonton Oilers’ foremost authority on prospects was Kevin Prendergast. During his time in that role, Prendergast developed a reputation for selling sunshine: there was not a player in the system that he was unable to gush about if the mood struck him, and it seemed to strike him often.
For the past while, we at Copper & Blue been putting forth our unvarnished opinions on the players in the Oilers’ system. We plan to continue doing so for the next while. We pore over numbers, scouting reports, comparables, whatever we can find to bare each prospect’s game to our readership. We can be critical. Ben Massey can take "critical" to new levels (when we ask him to).
All of this can become tiresome. So for a change of pace we looked back to Kevin Prendergast for inspiration (and McKeen's for style), and decided to revisit those players not quite good enough to crack the top-25, but this time to focus solely on the positive.
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I call bullshit.
Kevin Prendergast doesn’t know a damned thing about RelCorsi.
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I took some creative liberties, like using advanced stats and not saying ‘well, we had Schremp pencilled in for 35 goals in Springfield.’ Admittedly I avoided the latter simply to keep away from the appearance of sarcasm.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jan 27, 2011 8:07 AM MST up reply actions
I figured. Just givin’ you the gears a bit. Nice article.
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This is like the ‘anti-Ben’ or the ‘reverse-Massey’ approach. I approve! I just wonder whether it might be even more fun in future to combine the two write ups together and then readers could vote between the ‘Massey-Massacre’ writeup and the ‘Prendergast Glow’ writeup.
Yeah, whoever had this idea is a frakkin’ genius.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 27, 2011 10:48 AM MST up reply actions
As soon as started reading this the same thought ran through my mind, at least to see both the pro/con arguments.
by TakeoutArtist on Jan 27, 2011 12:41 PM MST up reply actions
Good stuff Jonathan. There was a lot of stuff in there that I just didn’t know. The splits for Czerwonka and Pelss in particular are interesting. If I remember Sum’s report correctly, most (or maybe it’s all) of Pelss’ scoring has come at EV, and Czerwonka’s got some things in his game besides scoring that may help him once he turns pro.
Abney, Abney, oh why TF did we have to pick Abney?
by Scott Reynolds on Jan 27, 2011 11:38 AM MST reply actions
Yeah, Czerwonka and Pelss moved a lot in my estimation researching this post.
Robby Dee, on the other hand, dropped considerably because almost all his offence comes on the PP.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jan 27, 2011 6:27 PM MST up reply actions
You want to drop an effective power play player?
Have you seen the mess out there this year?
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I’ve seen Czerwonka play twice and he did most of his damage on the PP in those games. (1-3-4) Played the Penner role jamming the crease, screening, looking for rebounds, cleaning up garbage. He’s got some nice things about his game – some edge, for one thing. Nice pick for where we got him.
Pelss on the other hand is an even strength machine, just starting to earn his PP time now. We’ll see what effect that has on his scoring rates. He had a slow first couple months but has been doing real well since late November, albeit he missed time here because duty called overseas. The chemistry between him and St. Croix is real, it’s just not entirely clear which one is driving the bus.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 27, 2011 10:54 PM MST up reply actions
I’ve seen Czerwonka play twice and he did most of his damage on the PP in those games. (1-3-4) Played the Penner role jamming the crease, screening, looking for rebounds, cleaning up garbage. He’s got some nice things about his game – some edge, for one thing. Nice pick for where we got him.
I’ve watched two Kootenay games this year and I have to say, Czerwonka doesn’t look terribly out of place. He’s miles ahead of Abney.
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He’s miles ahead of Abney.
OH WOW.
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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 28, 2011 12:03 AM MST up reply actions
Czerwonka doesn’t have a whole lot in common with Abney. He’s got a pair of hands for one thing.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 28, 2011 9:12 AM MST up reply actions

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