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#12 - Jeff Petry

It's not often that a few weeks will drastically change my perception of any player for the good.  Catastrophic injuries can change my valuation the other way, but in general, my opinions are like a slow boat to China.  But that's exactly the case for Jeff Petry, the first - and perhaps only - player on this list that I can say with confidence is being underrated and deserves to be higher.  His numbers through college were good but inconsistent and his start in the AHL was pretty rough.  Although his offense picked up and his defense stabilized in the latter half of his stint with the Barons, it's been his play in the NHL that really has me second-guessing my original placement.

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RankPlayer DOBDraftedYearBen
Bruce
Derek
JonScott
12 Jeff Petry 12/09/87
45 2006
15 13 T-5 9 14

 

Previous Rank: 12

Derek has been on Petry's bandwagon all along, and deserves some credit for seeing what the rest of us didn't.  A year ago, he had Petry fourth, five spots higher than anyone else, and in the summer he had Petry seventh, four spots higher than anyone else.  Now he has Petry in a tie (that's the kind of indecision that could make him Steve Tambellini's right-hand man!)  for fifth, once again at least four spots higher than the rest of us.  So what gave Derek the edge?  Here's his own account:

In what is a bit of a dirty little secret, my ranking on Petry was based on a whole bunch of "seen him good" and some second-hand scouting reports.  When I watched Petry play during his final season at Michigan State, I saw an incredibly athletic defenseman with loads of skill.  He moved like a forward and passed like one too.

I think the experience has been similar for many of us.  Petry's numbers in the AHL were pretty underwhelming.  In fact, he's still second-to-last on the team in +/- at -7, bettering only his partner, Shawn Belle.  His offense was good, but eleven of his twenty-one points had been collected on the power play (2-9-11 compared to 5-5-10 at EV), and since the Oilers are under a curse whereby they never score on the power play, those skills wouldn't do the big club any good.  It was a good rookie season in the AHL, but certainly not spectacular.

But since coming to Edmonton, Petry has been extremely impressive.  He's playing almost seventeen minutes per night at EV, another three on the PP and some limited time on the PK as well.  That's a lot more ice time than some of the veterans are seeing and a lot for a rookie defender at any time, and at this early stage, he looks fantastic.  He's taken the role of "puckmover" on his pairing with Ladislav Smid, and seems very comfortable doing it.  He's calm with the puck, skates well, and passes with aplomb.  He's not particularly physical, but he's not afraid to engage physically either.  The numbers are impressive too.  Although he's been reasonably sheltered in terms of starting positions to this point, he's responded by nearly breaking even in terms of Corsi, which is a nice accomplishment for a rookie playing top four minutes.  The offense hasn't quite come, but he's getting minutes on the power play, and should improve with time.  In the end, there's a very good chance that Jeff Petry never plays another game in the AHL.  The best part is, he's earned it.

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As crazy as I think Derek is for his low ranking on Dubnyk, I’ve got to commend him for his high ranking on Petry. Everything I’ve seen so far, I like.

I know he’s only a dozen games into his NHL career, but the guy eats a ton of ice time already, and he’s not bleeding numbers everywhere in the Oiler end.

It’s a dozen games, yes. But it’s a dozen games on the 2010-11 Edmonton Oilers.

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by chappy35 on Jan 25, 2011 11:38 AM MST reply actions  

Fifth is still a touch high for me, but Derek’s ongoing support of the player certainly looks good right about now. If I were doing it over today, I’d probably have Petry closer to Jonathan’s 9th place ranking.

Abney, Abney, oh why TF did we have to pick Abney?

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 25, 2011 12:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Goalies are insane. If I would’ve ranked Dan LaCosta on par with Al Montoya in 2006, everyone would’ve lost their marbles. There’s no way anyone can reliably rank them, and I look with great skepticism upon anyone’s goalie rankings.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 25, 2011 5:30 PM MST up reply actions  

If I’d ranked Linus Omark on par with Jordan Eberle in 2007…

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 25, 2011 6:30 PM MST up reply actions  

Yeah, the phenomenon Derek’s talking about happens with forwards and defensemen too. It just happens with goalies quite a bit more often. That doesn’t make goalie rankings useless, just somewhat less reliable.

Abney, Abney, oh why TF did we have to pick Abney?

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 25, 2011 7:07 PM MST up reply actions  

They aren’t the same age

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by Derek Zona on Jan 25, 2011 8:48 PM MST up reply actions  

If I’d ranked Paul Stastny on par with Andrew Cogliano back in 2006…

All prospect evaluation is witchcraft. All of it.

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by Benjamin Massey on Jan 26, 2011 8:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Renney deserves some credit, he’s pretty good at developing defenceman

by theoil99 on Jan 25, 2011 12:16 PM MST reply actions  

I missed the boat on this one. He jumped nine spots between now and this past summer in my personal rankings.

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by Jonathan Willis on Jan 25, 2011 12:23 PM MST reply actions  

Petry is one reason to hope for further improvement in the blue line next season. If Plante can make that kind of unexpected jump (like Peckham and Petry did this year) then the Oilers might not look so bad in their own end next season.

I do not expect the management to address the issue, so internal improvement is my only hope.

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by Bar Qu on Jan 25, 2011 12:57 PM MST reply actions  

Some of us would argue that Peckham’s leap was expected ;)

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by Jonathan Willis on Jan 25, 2011 3:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Not that I apparently believed my own words when unthinking my way to the above ranking, but perhaps this is a time to revisit my impressions from summer camp, when Petry elicited a comment on four out of four days.

Of the others, Jeff Petry impressed with his rangy skating and sharp puck control. A corny oversimplification, I know, but he “just looks like a hockey player”.
Jeff Petry caught my eye for a second day in a row, and gives the impression of a guy who’ll be an NHLer sooner rather than later. Hard to tell without seeing real game situations of course.
For the third day running I saw Jeff Petry real good. Tall and rangy, right-hand shot, seems calm and in control, at first gulp not a lot different than Tom Gilbert was when he turned pro. We can only hope. I’ve been impressed with his skating, and saw a different aspect of that today during some 2-on-1 drills which Petry played to near perfection, taking away the pass before closing down the puck carrier at the exact right moment.
Of the blueliners, by far the most impressive yet again was Jeff Petry, a dominant figure who won a large number of one-on-one battles. Of course the 23-year-old should dominate against what was largely teenaged competition, but dominate he did. He’s got some nice instincts which were on display on one sequence when he walked the blueline to maintain possession, beat his man, then walked in to score on a nifty deke. Strong all-around skater, good size and reach, quick stick, the kid’s got a nice basket of talents and is certainly a prospect to watch.

I don’t think I need retract too many of those impressions. As for that Gilbert comp, it’s instructive to compare Petry’s first dozen games with Gilbert’s first NHL “season” which coinicdentally consisted of 12 games.

Gilbert 12 GP, 1-5-6, -1, 0 PiM, 20:05 ATOI, 13 shots
Petry 12 GP, 1-1-2, +1, 2 PiM, 21:26 ATOI, 19 shots

.. which is pretty reasonably close, give or take a handful of finished passes. I remember likiing Gilbert’s game pretty much from Game One, and I have found myself responding to Petry in a similar fashion. Hits a little harder, too!

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 25, 2011 2:27 PM MST reply actions  

With Gilbert as a comparable, it’s no wonder that Ben has him ranked the lowest!

Abney, Abney, oh why TF did we have to pick Abney?

by Scott Reynolds on Jan 25, 2011 3:08 PM MST up reply actions  

As for the hitting component of Gilbert’s game, I have been paying closer attention to Gilbert over the last few games and have noticed that numerous times he takes the body and comes out ahead. Saw him out-muscle people on more than a couple occasions. He doesn’t obliterate people or run them over, but he gets the job done physically.

by HockeyNut98 on Jan 25, 2011 4:21 PM MST up reply actions  

With Gilbert, it’s all about leverage. He uses positioning and leverage within the battle to get the puck and get it moving. He’s the anti-Jacques.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 25, 2011 5:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Obviously a bit of a stretch, but thats exactly how everyone describes Nick Lidstrom. Positioning and leverage.

Hey, a guy can dream right?

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by VanillaAcid on Jan 25, 2011 6:09 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes, and yes. I’ve published what seems like four pix on Cult of Hockey lately that show Gilbert taking a guy physically out of the play. Randy Gregg used to do it the same way, use his size and strength to fulcrum the guy away from the puck and establish position on it. He won’t rack up the “hits” but he’ll win his share of battles. More than, actually.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 25, 2011 6:55 PM MST up reply actions  

All you had to do was read your own scouting reports and Petry would be in your top 7.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 25, 2011 5:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed. I’m a better scout than I am ranker, I guess. I’m actually kind of pleased with those reports, even if I ’m too fucking scatterbrained to read or remember them.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jan 25, 2011 6:56 PM MST up reply actions  

Having another Tom Gilbert on the team would be great if he signs a contract for about 2.5-3m per year. I really like Gilbert and think he gets bashed way to often but I do think 4m is a little steep for him. Plus we need the superior defensive guys to play with them. Like Whitney-ish players who can cover for their offensive play with solid defence.

by NZoilerfan on Jan 25, 2011 4:10 PM MST reply actions  

So glad he’s doing well. I was hoping you all would like him. :)

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by Baroque on Jan 25, 2011 4:42 PM MST reply actions  

I don’t recall the last time I saw a defenseman look like your prototypical all-around defenseman like I saw with Petry. His game is so subtle – Bruce is right to compare him to Gilbert, but Petry is much more athletic when compared to Gilbert.

I had the benefit of talking to someone who was close to the Michigan State program and when he talked about Petry, he mentioned the little, little noticed things he does like making sure he gets the puck to the net when he shoots. He won’t miss high and wide by 8 feet just to shoot really hard. He also talked about Petry’s ability to play both RD and LD and how he could change in the middle of a long shift if his new partner played the other side.

Aside from his skating ability, my favorite thing about him is how he slows the play down. Even as a rookie, when he grabs the puck, everything around him calms down.

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by Derek Zona on Jan 25, 2011 5:45 PM MST reply actions  

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