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Vladimir Mihalik on Waivers

I always enjoy the waiver wire this time of year.  For bad teams like the Oilers, it seems to me that it's a vastly underused resource to acquire talent.  It's extremely cheap ($90,000 or less), and there's often some pretty talented players available.  Last season, the Oilers actually lost talent via waivers in training camp (Rob Schremp to the Islanders); this season, with ample cap and budget (?) space and a pretty flexible roster, the Oilers could potentially bolster one of their two positions of greatest weakness: their goaltending or their defense. 

But before I talk about candidates, I wanted to discuss one of the objections raised most frequently to claiming players off of waivers: they generally aren't very good and can't be immediately assigned to the AHL.  The rule is that if Team A puts a player on waivers and Team B (and only Team B) claims him, Team B can't then assign him to the AHL; if they try, Team A can reclaim him and immediately assign him to the AHL.  While this is true, it's also true that after the player plays in 10 NHL games and remains on the NHL roster for 30 days that he can then be assigned to the AHL without Team A reclaiming him for their AHL roster (although Team A or some other team can claim the player and keep him in the NHL).  Since the Oilers are very likely going to be a poor team this season, it makes sense to me for the Oilers to add a promising project or two to the blueline. 

One such project is Tampa Bay blueliner Vladimir Mihalik who was put on waivers on Monday.  Mihalik was drafted 30th overall by the Lightning in 2005, so he was once a pretty highly touted prospect who's only 23 years old (he'll be 24 in January).  At 6'7'' and 240 lbs., the man is a load.  He also had a pretty good season in the AHL last year, finishing in a tie for the team lead among Norfolk defenders (minimum 40 games played) in plus/minus at +6 while providing minimal offense.  To me, it seems like the guy is worth a shot, especially for a team that's looking for effective defenders right in that age range.  If, after a month-long try-out, the coaches don't like what they see, you can (try to) send him down to Oklahoma City, and the organizational depth has been improved.  I know that I'd much rather use a roster spot on a guy like Mihalik than on a goon like Steve MacIntyre.

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Ok as I understand, oilers have first dibs on any players being sent on waivers. So if Oilers do claim a player on waivers, does that mean that they still have first dibs on the next player being sent on waivers? Or there is a shuffle in the waiver-claim rankings?
Meaning if Oilers claim Mihalik, do they still have priority for any other waiver pickups?

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by SumOil on Sep 28, 2010 11:13 PM MDT reply actions  

The Oilers will have waiver priority until October 31st no matter how many waiver claims they make. After that, it depends on where they are in the standings, so hopefully they’re no longer first in line!

by Scott Reynolds on Sep 28, 2010 11:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

So waiver ranking depends only on the regular season rankings, no matter how many times a team claims players on waivers, right?

Sins can be forgiven but conscience is a killer.

by SumOil on Sep 29, 2010 6:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

That’s correct. Up to and including October 31st, it’s based on last year’s regular season points percentage, and from November 1st on it’s based on this year’s regular season points percentage.

by Scott Reynolds on Sep 29, 2010 8:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oilers could potentially bolster one of their two positions of greatest weakness: their goaltending or their defense

I highly doubt oilers do anything about their goaltending. They are looking to send bodies away. defensemen on the other hand is something oilers should look out for.

I know that I’d much rather use a roster spot on a guy like Mihalik than on a goon like Steve MacIntyre.

Steve T will never get it….never.

Sins can be forgiven but conscience is a killer.

by SumOil on Sep 28, 2010 11:21 PM MDT reply actions  

I find it quite frustrating that the Oilers have made waiver claims on exactly two players since Steve Tambellini took over: Steve MacIntyre and Jesse Boulerice.

As for the goaltending, I’d hope that they would be willing to take on a better goaltender if one became available. Nathan Lawson, for example, would need to clear waivers if he doesn’t make the Islanders, and he’s been very successful in the AHL over the last couple of seasons. He’s only one year older than JDD.

by Scott Reynolds on Sep 28, 2010 11:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

Ryan Jones too unless you were talking specifically about training camp

Sins can be forgiven but conscience is a killer.

by SumOil on Sep 29, 2010 6:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t, and you are correct. I forgot that they claimed him off of waivers. That was a good one.

by Scott Reynolds on Sep 29, 2010 8:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nothing to lose on this, I don’t see any reason, except for Jason Strudwick’s contract, not to do this.

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by Derek Zona on Sep 28, 2010 11:24 PM MDT reply actions  

They don’t even need to demote Strudwick in this scenario. They can just run with eight defenders and thirteen forwards.

by Scott Reynolds on Sep 28, 2010 11:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

That leaves a whole mess at forward too.

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by Derek Zona on Sep 28, 2010 11:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not really. I assume the “standard” thirteen-man roster would be some iteration of Horcoff, Hemsky, Penner, Hall, Paajarvi, Eberle, Cogliano, Gagner, Brule, Jones, Stortini, Fraser, and MacIntyre, plus Jacques on LTIR. Personally, I’d waive MacIntyre and keep Omark up, but that’s probably the only controversial call. Am I missing anyone of significance?

by Scott Reynolds on Sep 28, 2010 11:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

why initial estimates.speculation has them carrying 14 f and 7 d. 13f at least simplifies things.

Sins can be forgiven but conscience is a killer.

by SumOil on Sep 29, 2010 7:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

Peckham, Strudwick, Chorney, Vandermeer… we have enough goddamned stankass defensemen cluttering up this roster. I agree Mihalik is good in theory but which of those guys do you waive to get him?

by Benjamin Massey on Sep 28, 2010 11:37 PM MDT reply actions  

I’d send Chorney to the AHL, but he doesn’t need to clear waivers yet (although he will be once he plays in 16 more regular season games). That would leave the following eight defenders on the roster: Gilbert, Whitney, Smid, Foster, Vandermeer, Strudwick, Peckham, and Mihalik.

by Scott Reynolds on Sep 28, 2010 11:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

take him, check him to keep or dump again. No risk at all. Any new’s for the Souray trade? May we get a D back. Chorney back to AHL should be good for him, he’s not NHL-ready yet.

by Screaming69 on Sep 29, 2010 1:26 AM MDT reply actions  

If “he’s a better option that Steve MacIntyre” is our acid test, we’re going to pick up half the AHL on waivers.

by sarcasticidealist on Sep 29, 2010 7:34 AM MDT reply actions  

A condemnation of that signing, but you’re correct that it’s probably not the best test to use for picking players up. I should probably be more specific that I’m looking for young defenders who still have some potential to become NHL players.

by Scott Reynolds on Sep 29, 2010 8:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Man, I cant wait till im a Mult-Millionaire.

Then I can wrangle the team away from Katz, and hire the Oilogosphere as my GM.

Everyone has great ideas, and combined would be a great solution to the team problems. If only Steve Tam listened to you guys more.

by VanillaAcid on Sep 29, 2010 12:07 PM MDT reply actions  

I caught Mihalik live last week – the guy was impossible to miss. What a monster. Pretty average looking player otherwise.

I wonder if there is so little waiver action out of professional courtesy, or if it’s simply a matter of teams working so hard to pare down their own bloated training camp rosters that they’re much more focussed on subtraction than addition. So far every waived player has cleared. There might be one or two of the “final cuts” that gets claimed – e.g. Schremp last year – but in general you’re right that it’s a very underused option.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Sep 30, 2010 7:49 AM MDT reply actions  

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