Oilers - Flames Prospects Post-game: A Win is a Win is a Win
The Oilers' Wannabes took the ice for their second game of the Young Stars Tournament in Penticton minus most of their young stars, as management saw fit to sit out all three of the Sales Crew (Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, and Magnus Paajarvi) for what would have been their inaugural game against the hated red and black of Calgary. Kind of a rip-off for fans who bought single game tickets in order to catch a glimpse of the Oiler hot shots, but at the end of the day, they didn't get cheated at all, as the two teams treated them (and us poaching on the interweb) to an action-packed and surprisingly entertaining affair. The Oil Droplets came out on top for the second game in a row, earning a 5-3 victory over the young Flickers.
The penalty-pocked game featured lots of momentum swings. The young Oil dominated the first period, outshooting Calgary 16-7 and taking a well-earned 1-0 lead into the intermission. For a time it appeared the youngsters have the patented Oilers "second period suck" down to a science, beating a steady path to the sin bin and allowing a pair of powerplay goals in the process, but a terrific play by Ryan Martindale turned the tide, and the Oil roared back with three straight goals to assume command. The Flames scored a last-millisecond goal in the second to cut the gap to 4-3. There the score remained throughout the third until Alex Plante sealed it with an empty-netter, although not before quite a few nervous moments. That was the scoring, but the game also featured a number of big hits and three spirited fights.
A few half-baked impressions of individual Oilers prospects after the jump:
Goal:
#1 Tyler Bunz: I was much more impressed with the young netminder than I expected to be. He was fighting the puck in the early going but soon settled in. There were a lot of shots through traffic in this one, and Bunz fought hard to track the puck and build a wall in front of the pipes. One of the Flames' goals kinda went through him from extremely close range, but he more than made up for that with a number of solid stops. He faced 37 shots on the night, and I thought he outplayed the older, more-hyped Leland Irving at the other end.
Defence:
#48 Alex Plante: The big defender showed lots of poise. He scored the opening goal on a seeing-eye wrister into traffic, then closed the scoring with a slightly risky but ultimately successful neutral zone pinch that resulted in the unassisted empty-netter to put it away. He seemed calm and in control, good on the breakout, and a little susceptible to wide speed. Vaguely reminiscent of a young Jeff Beukeboom.
#55 Jordan Bendfeld: This guy is brutal. One of the more-experienced players out there was exposed time and again in the defensive zone. He did get a chance to do what he does best in a major tilt against Flames goober Ryley Grantham, but didn't show near enough "good at hockey". He was completely burned on the 1-1 goal by #57 in red who beat him three ways from Sunday before making an uncontested centring pass to the goal scorer (the impressive Greg Nemisz) who had also managed to beat Bendfeld to the inside. If you want to see an instructional video of how not to play defence, watch #55 in white from about 1:15 to 1:40 of the game highlights video embedded at bottom.
#60 Brandon Davidson: A mixed bag. He looked good much of the time, but occasionally was either a step slow or else a tad late making his decision, or as Derek put it, "caught between spaces". Also was on the receiving end of a couple of fearsome hits. He was pretty good with the puck. A project, but what else do you expect a just-turned-19-year-old defenceman to be?
#70 Martin Marincin: Ditto. He looked real solid at times, and I really liked his instincts to engage defensively. He looked good with the puck at times and horrible at other times, especially in a late third-period turnover which led to some frantic action around Bunz's crease. He's a gangly son of a gun with a build resembling a giant daddy long legs. There always seemed to be some extremity of his in the way. My first NHL comp to him was Kjell Samuelsson, of whom I was a huge fan. The Skating Tripod was one of those defenders I call a "thwart". There's obviously a very long way from here to there, and I don't mean to heap those sorts of expectations on the kid, just that he seems to be that type of player.
#72 Dominik Schlumpf: I hope he makes it just for his name alone. I'm pretty sure I once saw just that combination of letters as a sound effect in a Calvin & Hobbes cartoon.
#73 Nolan Toigo: I'll be surprised if he gets an invite to main camp. He didn't hurt his cause when he threw down with former longtime Vancouver Giants teammate Lance Bouma - isn't THAT a great name for a scrapper? - in response to a cheap hit on a current teammate, however temporary. Classic hockey player reaction to an opponent who has crossed the line.
Forwards:
#51 Philippe Cornet: To my eye he just seemed a day late and a dollar short most of the night. May have stalled as a prospect.
#53 Cameron Abney: Every time I see this guy he looks like a decent hockey player. He's big, aggressive, and to my eye, is an OK skater who packs a lot of foot pounds when he gets it into top gear. Tons of rough edges, and may well be a bust, as many third-rounders are. While it's pretty hard to see the top of the mountain from way out here in the foothills, I can see, or at least sense, what it is the scouts liked about Abney as a player. Tonight he also made his case as a fighter, outlasting the giant Chris Breen (6'7, 224) in a prolonged tussle that ended suddenly with one big shot from Abney. Like it or not, that will be Cam's ticket to wherever his professional career takes him.
#54 Chris Vande Velde: Solid on the dot, solid all over the ice to my eye. Had several shots on goal, decent ones too. Found the scoresheet when he was able to get a piece of a goalmouth deflection and bunt the puck over the line somehow. This after winning the draw in his skates and busting to the net, just like they taught him in college. Unfortunately he gave that one back right at the end of the second with a poor clearing pass that was instantly turned into Seabrook's last-heartbeat goal. Poor clock awareness there; he had to just eat the puck and the period was over.
#56 Teemu Hartikainen: Was robbed by Irving on a bad-angle bang-bang play midway through the first. He didn't miss the shot, he just got beat by what was likely the best stop of the night by either goalie. Harski's a big body who likes to battle on the boards and slot and is very effective, at least against guys his own age. Landed one very borderline hit which almost looked like a knee shot from one camera angle, not quite so severe from another.
#63 Kristians Pelss: For some odd reason I find myself really rooting for this kid. Maybe it's just that the Oil have never had a Latvian before (have they??). Since its independence from the USSR, the tiny Balkan Baltic nation has become one my favourite "third world" hockey nations; it's my dream to experience a live Canada-Latvia game at the World Championships some golden spring. But for now, we have a promising young Latvian who is currently the property of two Edmonton teams. A nice bonus for local fans who can watch Kristians sharpen his skills as an Oil King for hopefully the next two years. No reason to fast track him unless he fast tracks himself, but he's a nice prospect well worth following. Tonight Pelss showed some legitimate speed and offensive moxy at times, playing on Pitlick's wing. After hitting the post earlier in the game, he made a real nice play to set up Pitlick's game-winner, beating the defenceman with a sharp cut to the boards, opening up a lane for a beauty backhand feed to Schlumpf right in between the circles.
#66 Ryan Martindale: After a very strong first period which had both Scott and me saying nice things about him, he made the play of the game in the second, which was also the play that turned the game. Midway through the period, Edmonton trailing 2-1 and on their heels, Martindale made a nice neutral zone steal, broke in on a clean 2-on-1, and when the Calgary defenceman dropped to the ice to take away both his shooting and passing lane on the forehand, he reacted by going behind the back and making a near-perfect feed to the breaking Mike Thomas, who finished the job against the startled Irving. A lovely deke and pass, but what I liked best was how he just instinctively made the right play, not to showboat particularly I wouldn't say, just because it was there. And it was all that was there.
#68 Tyler Pitlick: This guy got a head of steam going a couple times and I tell you what, he is a load. Normally I would add "when he fills out" except he already seems to be blessed with a fairly thick body which will make him very difficult to stop at speed, of which he has more than I expected - sweater was flapping there one time. He did some creative things with the puck too. He didn't make me notice him every shift, but when he did, I sure liked what I saw.
#69 James Livingston - Who he? Among the several unknowns like Chase Schaber or the aforementioned Mike Thomas, Livingston stood out by taking a couple of bad early penalties, but more or less redeeming himself with some good hustle and offensive creativity. Until, that is, he made what was likely the single worst play of the entire game, a brutal "no breakout" pass that went sideways from his own defensive boards right into the middle of the ice, after which all sorts of peril and mayhem ensued as Calgary battled hard for the tying goal. An horrific gaffe.
#71 Drew "Willie" Dzerwonka: To my eye this guy just looked real bad. Errors of commission, errors of omission, compounded by errors of enthusiasm. One time he tried to desperately recover against a lost check by making the hero play, a big sprawl through the slot, only to slide all the way into the corner while buddy made off with the puck with all kinds of space. He made any number of bad passes and worse decisions, and took way more grief in the often-humourous GDT than anybody. But at the end he did make a hero play, a backcheck at the doorstep which likely prevented a tap-in tying goal in the last 2 or 3 minutes. If nothing else, points for effort I guess.
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Give 'em all points for effort. That was as entertaining a game as you could hope to see in early September, and to beat Calgary was a nice little bonus, however meaningless. It just felt good not to lose to those red sweaters for a change. Gotta start somewhere, and the young Oilers are as good a group as any to develop good winning habits against Cowtown.
Next up: Oiler rookies vs. Shark rookies, Wednesday, 8:30 p.m. MDT, webcast through Oilers.nhl.com.
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I had to miss the game, so thanks for the summary. Glad to see Plante is doing well (among others)… I like the guy, and I think he’s taken a lot of unfair heat since he was drafted.
Any idea if the Flames iced their “A” team, or did they sit their star youngsters as well? I’m just curious about the quality of the opponent, I guess, since I know next to nothing about Calgary’s prospects (other than their organizational ranking is low on HF). Whatever the case, looks like an impressive win for the most part.
by Stephen's Beaven on Sep 15, 2010 4:55 AM MDT reply actions
I don’t really know who their top prospects are outside of Backlund, but Backlund did play.
by Scott Reynolds on Sep 15, 2010 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions
mitch wahl and TJ brodie and greg nemisz according to HF . So they played 4 of their top 5
Sins can be forgiven but conscience is a killer.
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/12283/mikael_backlund_remains_calgary_flames_top_prospect/
actually most of their top 10
Sins can be forgiven but conscience is a killer.
[Bendfeld] Was completely burned on the 1-1 goal by #57 in red who beat him three ways from Sunday before making an uncontested centring pass to the goal scorer
57 in red was Lance Bouma, who had a pretty good night, all told.
For some odd reason I find myself really rooting for this kid. Maybe it’s just that the Oil have never had a Latvian before (have they??)
The late Sergei Zholtok, who played half a season for the Oil a decade ago, was from Riga.
Since its independence from the USSR, the tiny Balkan nation has become among my favourite “third world” hockey nations
Baltic, not Balkan. It’s not a part of the former Yugoslavia. ;)
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Ah, shit. My head said “Baltic”, my fingers went “Balkan”. Dumb, 3 a.m. type of mistake.
But I have no excuse for forgetting Sergei Zholtok, or more specifically, the fact that despite the Russian name he was Latvian. I feel shame. Sergei was a personal favourite before, during, and after his stay in Edmonton, and I was very upset by his death.
I’ll be pulling for Pelss regardless – for sure the Oilers have ever had a Latvian prospect before (have they?? – I’m starting to doubt my memory).
And you’re right that Lance Bouma had a decent game – certainly a better one than Jordan Bendfeld had. Is his name really pronounced Boom-ah? Lance Boom-ah? Awesome name.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Sep 15, 2010 8:36 AM MDT up reply actions
I’ll be pulling for Pelss regardless – for sure the Oilers have ever had a Latvian prospect before (have they?? – I’m starting to doubt my memory).
The Oilers have drafted two Latvian-born players:
Kristians Pelss – 2010 – Round 7, 181 overall
Aleksandrs Kercs – 1993 – Round 3, 60 overall
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Huh. At the time the Oilers drafted him he was known as Alexander Kerch. Hockey-reference puts his birthplace as Arkhangelsk, which is definitely in Russia. However that spelling of his name is obviously Latvian, and he did represent Latvia at the Worlds on number of occasions, notably when they won the B pool in 1996. So it would seem he was of Latvian descent without technically being Latvian born.
He apparently is still playing – or was until recently, well into his 40s – on ASK Ogre of the Latvian League, and had the privilege of playing pro hockey with his son, Aleksandrs Kercs Juniors. :)
Kerchs has a couple of small claims to fame – the draft pick Oilers used on him was acquired in the Kevin Lowe to Rangers trade. He and Roman Oksiuta were a pretty slim return. And, he actually played for Oilers, posting one of the all-time worst career boxcars ever: 5 GP, 0-0-0, -8.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Sep 15, 2010 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions
The only Latvian-born players ever to play in the NHL:
Oskars Bartulis
Sandis Ozolinsh
Sergei Zholtok
Karlis Skrastins
Raitis Ivanans
Viktor Tikhonov
Herbert Vasiljevs
Helmut Balderis
Martins Karsums
Kaspars Astashenko
Janis Sprukts
Arturs Kulda
Victor Ignatjev
Harijs Vitolinsh
Kaspars Daugavins
Arturs Irbe
Peter Skudra
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All but Bartulis were born in Riga. Bartulis was born on Ogre.
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Ogre? Awesome.
I thought it was Herberts Vasiljevs? ;) I have to admit I was thinking of names ending in “s” when thinking of Latvian Oilers. But while it’s common it’s obviously not an all-the-time thing.
The other thing I had forgotten was that the Riga Express, Helmut (a.k.a. Helmuts) Balderis, actually played in the NHL. He got a cuppa coffee with the North Stars at the advanced age of 37. He was the lone Latvian player on the great USSR teams of the ’70s, and was hella fun to watch.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Sep 15, 2010 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions
That play by Martindale was very slick. Good on him for being willing to try it as well. It was probably the best play to make to generate a scoring chance, but at the same time if you screw it up it looks a lot worse than fluffing one into the goalies chest or hitting the defenceman with the puck.
In theory, there is little difference between practice and theory, but in practice there is!
Since its independence from the USSR, the tiny Balkan Baltic nation has become one my favourite “third world” hockey nations; it’s my dream to experience a live Canada-Latvia game at the World Championships some golden Spring
I used to think this way too, but then I remembered the year Latvia hosted the World Championships. To see the fans rioting and throwing COINS at the Canadian players was such a disgusting display that I now wish nothing but ill will on the country and its hockey players. They’re a bunch of soccer hooligans looking for a new pasttime, and I for one don’t appreciate it in the slightest.
I honestly don’t remember the coins. I do remember them cheering their team all the way through a one-sided shellacking in what seemed an impressive display of we-love-you-no-matter-what. They’re certainly famous partiers, the Latvians, but of course that means liquor which in turn means bad judgement on occasion. I guess we see what we want to see — or what gets reported.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Sep 15, 2010 10:39 AM MDT up reply actions
I quite vividly remember the Latvian team captain in the timekeeper’s box pleading (the broadcasters were apparently translators too) for the Latvian fans to calm down. They stopped the game partway through the third period. They didn’t continue.
by doritogrande on Sep 15, 2010 2:08 PM MDT up reply actions
What little I remember about that particular game, they were throwing stuff at the referee after Latvia received quite a few minors. Some deserved, some not so much. To make matters worse, the referee was from USA. So basically the worst case scenario.
Not sure what you mean by “they did not continue”, but game continued and they played full time, IIRC. Anyway, throwing coins was absolutely idiotic behaviour. I just wanted to point out that the targets were not the Canadian players.
Since I bothered to check, it was indeed Rick Looker having a bad day.
For those interested in the young netminders, The Goalie Guild has a detailed review of Bunz’s performance last night, and a little further down the page, of Roy’s game on Sunday. Very favourable reports in both instances.
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Wherein I get a bit long-winded for a blog comment...
That guy who scored off of Martindale’s beaut? Mike Thomas? I think he’s got a job somewhere in the Org after all is said and done. I did some pre-camp digging on some of the lesser knowns on the invite list and stumbled onto a pretty rich vein. Much of Thomas’ junior career has been traced by BeeGee at the phenomenal Sea Dogs Snippets, the St. John Sea Dog-o-sphere analog of Lowetide. A recent recap:
… The Sea Dogs then elected to draft rugged winger Mike Thomas from the provincial champion Fredericton AAA Canadiens with the 56th overall pick. Thomas has gone to achieve significant success in the Q, appearing in 231 games with Saint John (23G-36A-59P-398PIM) while developing into one of the best leaders in team history. On October 21, 2009, Thomas was named Team Captain…
There’s lots of Tambi’s favourite words floating around the winger: grit, toughness, rugged, character, leadership, etc. The first native New Brunswicker to ever earn the captaincy of the Sea Dog, Thomas appears to have been a very visible contributor to the physical side of things in Saint Johns. BeeGee also mentions that Thomas attended Philly’s rookie camp last year, making it to the late cuts of training camp proper.
The guy better get his mitts on someone soon, because he needs to show the Org how well he can swing ’em (#17 in all videos):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GcOs9XOPeM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fP3If20eMw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PryD9X0jnt
Seriously, watch those. They’re great tilts and there’s more to be had on Youtube. Thomas can flat out fight and, while Abney might be eating his lunch in a couple of years, IMO he’d be a nice Thunder/Barons asset.
by Downright Fierce on Sep 15, 2010 12:27 PM MDT reply actions
He also had only twenty points last season on a fantastically good team and was +9 where the leaders were in the +30s and even the +40s. All as an overager.
by Benjamin Massey on Sep 15, 2010 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Thanks for that, DF. Shall watch the videos forthwith. I’m not interested in fighters per se, but actual players who can also fight is a whole different proposition.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Sep 15, 2010 12:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Only two of the links worked but that was more than enough. Ouch. Double ouch.
Thanks for the update, btw. When I said “unknowns” in the article, I meant unknown to me. I was kind of hoping a knowledgeable reader might fill me in, as you have done for Mike Thomas.
I think your Stockton suggestion is the logical fit. Thomas fits the ECHL profile to a T. Every once in a while a guy will start there and eventually emerge, there’s no telling of the learning curve of some of these guys. Especially the undertalented ones whose best talents are intangible(s).
There’s lots of Tambi’s favourite words floating around the winger: grit, toughness, rugged, character, leadership, etc.
For a minute there I thought you were talking about Zack Stortini.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Sep 15, 2010 2:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Interesting you mention him, DF. I have a piece on him coming this weekend.
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Schlumpf!
And poor Mr. Bix!
Every morning at six,
poor Mr. Bix has his Borfin to fix!
It doesn’t seem fair. It just doesn’t seem right,
but his Borfin just seems to go shlump every night.
It shlumps in a heap, sadly needing repair.
Bix figures it’s due to the local night air.
It takes him all day to un-shlump it.
And then…
the night air comes back
and it shlumps once again!
Great find! It’s too bad Schlumpf isn’t a better prospect because we could all use another excuse to read Dr. Seuss!
by Scott Reynolds on Sep 15, 2010 5:36 PM MDT up reply actions

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