Questions about Time On Ice

by Passive Voice on Aug 15, 2010 10:00 PM MDT

This seems like the most logical place to ask, so I'm just gonna throw this out there.

I'm trying to work with Vic's "close" script for the Ducks in 0910. This is the URL I'm using:

http://timeonice.com/playershots0910close.php?team=ANA&first=20001&last=30000

It spits out a bunch of lovely data. However, I'm not sure how to determine which player corresponds to which "player number". A bunch of them match up just fine with the NHL's list of player numbers here, but some are definitely different (James Wisniewski, for instance, is listed on NHL.com as #20, even though I'm about 95% sure he had #34).

Also, TOI lists some numbers that NHL doesn't at all; NHL.com doesn't believe the Anaheim Ducks iced a #13 last year, even though he apparently played 66 games and scored 3 goals for them (fwiw, hockeyreference is pretty sure #13 is Mike Brown, who actually played 75 games and scored 6 goals...). [EDIT: This of course means Brown (or whoever #13 is) scored three goals in ES close situations, not as a whole. FML. I don't think this changes my questions, though.]

So, Question #1: Does anyone know if there's a list hiding somewhere to make putting a name to a TOI "player number" easier?

Question #2: TOI lists a #17 as having played 65 games for the Ducks. I'm pretty sure this was two seperate players (Nokelainen prior to the deadline (50 games), Visnovsky thereafter (16)). Is there any way to seperate their numbers?

Lastly, Question #3: A bunch of players appear to be missing one game (e.g. Perry only has data for 81 games, Getzlaf for 65, even though they played 82 and 66 respectively). Is there a reason for that?

Thanks very much in advance.

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re: question 2

i think you’ll just have to do it manually by finding the game where the jersey number split occurred. this is a constant problem with the devils because they don’t allow numbers above 30 for skaters, so for last season there are multiple #17s, #28s, #29s, and #18s.

by Triumph44 on Aug 16, 2010 9:26 AM MDT reply actions

ha, is that a lamoriello edict?

by Passive Voice on Aug 16, 2010 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions

Q1 – Not really. I’d use this hockey-reference page and click through the names one by one.

Q2 – The only way to separate them is if you know when the number switched and then re-run the script for a limited number of games. In Visnovsky’s case, his first game with Anaheim came on March 6th against Phoenix. Once you know that, you can go to nhl.com and find the game number (20961), and use that number at the front of the url instead of 20001:

http://timeonice.com/playershots0910close.php?team=ANA&first=20961&last=30000

Q3 – The script sometimes has some hiccups for season-long data, especially if the nhl.com data isn’t entered correctly. In this case, it doesn’t look like that’s what happened. It seems to me that each player is only getting credit for a “GP” when that player actually played a shift with the score close. If you look at the script for the season as a whole the GP numbers correspond with what you’ll find at other sites.

by Scott Reynolds on Aug 16, 2010 10:22 AM MDT reply actions

thanks Scott, that’s awesome. i figured that it was possible that a bunch of anaheim players didn’t play an ES shift while the game was close, but such a situation seems improbable (two goals to make the game not-close in the first shift? a whole game played on the PP?).

anyway, thanks very much for answering.

by Passive Voice on Aug 16, 2010 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions

There are very occasional games that draw a complete blank. e.g. an Oilers at Phoenix game last year was somehow dropped by NHL.com, so timeonice.com registers only 81 games for the Oilers. The games are listed up top; note the blank space for game 20874.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Aug 19, 2010 12:10 AM MDT up reply actions

To answer Question 1

Gabe’s behindthenet site has all of the uniform numbers w/ names. So #13 is Mike Brown, Wisniewski is listed as #34, etc, and it’s much easier than clicking through hockeyreference.

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by George E. Ays on Aug 16, 2010 9:09 PM MDT reply actions

good call, thanks.

by Passive Voice on Aug 16, 2010 9:52 PM MDT up reply actions

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