The Top 25 Under 25 Returns! (These Guys Aren't In It)
The marvelous thing about the Copper & Blue is that it can provide so many things to so many people. We have marvelous articles for fans of the history of hockey as well as those who admire its present. Those who like a bit of an apocalyptic bent to their hockey reporting will find themselves well-served (although the Oilers sure make it easy). We've had interviews galore, and more than our share of field trips to games, combines, and other events. But we've always had a special place in our hearts for the future Oilers, the prospects bubbling under the surface and just waiting to rise to the big show. Is it because the Edmonton Oilers are so unbelievably terrible, or is it simply the natural human urge to look ahead rather than behind, to convince ourselves that no matter how good or bad things are now they cannot help but get better.
But because we write so many different things enjoyed by so many people, it's rare for us to have a consistent series of opinions, analysis, and information on any topic, including the prospects we can look forward to once the current batch of Oilers moves on. So we compiled, listed, and wrote our Top 25 Under 25, a ranking of every player in the Oilers' system under the age of twenty-five as of the date we started the project. Sam Gagner, you will be unsurprised to hear, came in first, but it was below him that the real action played out, and each of our intrepid authors defended some of his choices in articles that were either brilliantly written or written by me.
Since then, we've had trades, free agents, a few players aging out of the prospect tag, and of course a little thing called the NHL draft. The Oilers' prospect cupboard looks nothing like it did five months ago, and even among the holdovers, some have elevated themselves while others have fallen. Plus, it's the dog days of summer and topics are harder to come by than a Fernando Pisani contract rumour.
What does that mean for you? The Top 25 Under 25 is back.
Actually, I'm a liar already. The series will kick off in earnest tomorrow, when Scott writes about our twenty-fifth ranked prospect. However, the Oilers have a lot more than twenty-five players under twenty-five in the organization. It would be unseemly to condemn the seventeen leftovers to obscurity without at least acknowledging them, and condemning them far more openly.
Some of these men are Coke machines, some are cinder blocks, some are goaltenders. A few have NHL experience, a few others have never played for a team you'd recognize the logo of. They run the gamut from old to young, from goal to forward and back again, from short to tall and from fast to Cory Cross after being trapped in a cement truck. They have only one thing in common: they stink.
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Massey, you win. I quit. I’ll never write again. you’re just that clever that there is simply no point in wasting my time blogging about stuff anymore because everything I say won’t be nearly as irreverent, hilarious and sadly true as what you have just said here. All the hope flavoured kool-aid I’ve been drinking lately has been regurgitated through my nose and on to the floor of my incredibly small kitchen.
ok, I’m not quitting, but you get the point….
Troy Hesketh was easily the most utterly indefensible draft pick of the Tambellini regime, a record that lasted for maybe half an hour until they took Cam Abney.
“He’s not so much deteriorating as eroding.”
“Cody Wild’s best position is defense, whereas Matt Marquardt’s is press box.”
“Clearly he has the rare ability to influence people’s minds with some sort of space ray. You can’t coach that.”
Ben, if you could do this on your feet, you would be the greatest color analyst in the history of hockey.
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Yeah, exactly. I thought it was Getting Stronger from Rocky, but then I considered it could be Batman.
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Batman was my first thought, too, but that doesn’t work.
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I know that prospects have read this site before, so would you believe I actually did feel a little bad about some of these? Jesus, if someone praised me for not defecating all over myself I’d be choked too.
Ultimately, I’m no less a whore than any mainstream guy in the Oilers pocket. I’m just a negative whore. I’m the dominatrix of the Oilogosphere.
by Benjamin Massey on Jul 8, 2010 7:50 PM MDT up reply actions
You’re right, Ben, Toni Rajala does stink. That said, I only met him directly after yesterday’s workout while he was still wearing his grotty gear.
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Pelss
I think you’re probably right that this guy doesn’t project as well as Ovechkin.
That said, there’ s at lest 2 reasons to hope:
(1) He was probably underscouted – that doesn’t make him a good player, but there’s a chance that some teams didn’t see him, period. Maybe the Oilers had him as a 3rd or 4th round player, but knew no one else had seen him, so they let him slide until the last round?
(2) Extremely young birthdate – If he were born a week later, he’d have been in the 2011 draft.
But remember where this guy was playing – the Latvian league, until last season when he moved to KHL Riga’s junior system. We’d be relying on the Oilers stealing a step on not just the NHL, but the KHL as well, to say nothing of the SEL or SM-liiga who might like to poach an overlooked asset. Riga didn’t think enough of him to give him a millisecond of big-league time.
I think Tambs and company saw him fast at the U-18s, were looking at Kellan Jones most of the way, said “ah, fuck it, we’ll take Pelss, maybe we get something, it’s the seventh round and who cares?”, then made a trade to get back into the round for Jones.
by Benjamin Massey on Jul 8, 2010 7:54 PM MDT up reply actions
I had two thoughts running through my mind as I read this. Shepso got the first one, and Andrew W got the second.
Amazing, outstanding article, in a brutal sort of way :)
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You know, Ben, I really wish you wouldn’t beat around the bush so much. When you have something to say, why can’t you just come out and say it. All this sugar coating is really getting on my tits.
by Yeti# on Jul 8, 2010 7:12 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Can't. Stop. Laughing.
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For a princely sum, he could probably tear down your organization too.
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nobody needs to be paid to make fun of the leafs, but if Ben doesn’t take that job, I happily will. Living in Ontario has only made my anti-leaf sentiments grow stronger. We all collectively thought the Oilers were in bad shape, but at least this team has a list of prospects under 25 thats so long that writers can take the time to research the bottom end players and destroy them before they ever play a game (O’Marra excluded). Do the leafs even have 42 players under 25 in their system? That’s the real joke…
(No, seriously, as much as I respect Burke the person, I really question his vision as a GM now…)
by Stephen Sheps on Jul 9, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Ben, I was originally going to comment and pick out a couple of funny lines, but I can’t. The whole thing is hilarious.
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wow
i’ve been negative on this blog before, just once, and it was during last year’s top 25, notably because i had such a tough time ready Ben’s total “jerk” style of reporting on these young men. consistently i learn nothing from this style of “blogging” and wonder if Ben even knows anything about half the guys he’s cutting into. I look forward to the informative and level headed replies brought by the other writers in the series.
but all of you continue the good work. easily, the best source for important prospect info is the Copper n Blue.
Remember this though – by putting himself out there, Ben sets himself up for some great feedback.
For example, Phil Cornet has agreed to oversee Ben eating the printed blog post where he said “If Cornet ever makes the NHL, I’ll print this post out and eat it.”
So if you don’t like what Ben’s done here – root hard, very hard, for Phil Cornet.
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I do try to do my research for pieces like this. That’s partially because I’m just a prospect hound and learning about them is enjoyable for its own sake, and partially because if I can drop those little researched facts into a joke it becomes funnier. “Hey, Kyle Bigos is playing for Merrimack!” isn’t funny. “Hey, Kyle Bigos and half his teammates are business majors!” is (plus it keeps me from getting caught out: “what the hell are you talking about Robby Dee is an offensive dynamo, Ben?!?”)
Well, it’s closer. It’s not educational, I fully grant, unless you’re new to most of these names. But I hope it’s enjoyable.
That said, I fully encourage you (and those of you who want to say something similar but are too polite to criticize a guy who said the only way Troy Hesketh can fill out his frame is with donuts) to voice dissatisfaction with anything I write that you’re dissatisfied with. You’ll notice most of the comments here are positive and that, along with the occasional e-mail, is all I have to go on regarding whether people like this or not. So I’d be likely to do more posts along these lines even though I personally don’t think it’s my best work. I fuckin’ loved that Bill Masterton post I did in January, but the people seem to prefer my irreverence to my seriousness.
This is a long-winded way of saying “seriously, jfry, thanks for saying that, and to the rest of you constructive criticism is good.”
by Benjamin Massey on Jul 9, 2010 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions
If you are actively seeking feedback then I will be sure to add that I laughed my ass off. Taking digs at the prospects is probably a low blow, so I hope they don’t read this. But then again, I really hope some of them prove you wrong, and maybe someday hire a dunk tank to exact some revenge… I mean, many of them are still getting paid to play a game and get a shot at a dream, so I don’t think this is on par with teasing children at the orphanage.
If the entire site was like this then it would probably be a turn-off… well except for last season, which we can agree was warranted. The variety of styles is one of the main reasons that C&B is my go-to site. The mix keeps it refreshing, and that definitely includes posts like this.
You and Bruce wading into eachothers’ areas was great as well. Regardless of what you guys all write, you all have an enjoyable style and it is always contains a mix of information and entertainment, so I don’t think you can go wrong.
by till_horcoff_is_coach on Jul 9, 2010 10:52 AM MDT up reply actions
I should add, the over-the-top nature of the cuts makes it so much more humorous and much less derogatory. I would imagine for a prospect that hearing a scout talk about the weakness in your game or stature is a lot more depressing than any description used in this post.
by till_horcoff_is_coach on Jul 9, 2010 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions

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