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Oilers Sign Alexandre Giroux

Although I haven't seen the terms confirmed at any of the traditional sources, it sounds like the Oilers have signed Alexandre Giroux, the 2008-09 AHL Most Valuable Player, to a one-way contract.  According to the same source Giroux claims to have had offers from the New York Islanders and a substantially larger financial offer from the KHL.  It seems obvious, then, that Giroux has been assured he'll have a legitimate chance to make this club out of camp.  Giroux spent 2003-04 and 2005-06 in the Rangers organization, so there's a good chance that Tom Renney is somewhat familiar with his game, although you'd like to think he's a better player today than he was four years ago. 

The numbers would seem to bear that out.  Giroux has had incredible success for several seasons at the AHL level but, now twenty-eight, still hasn't established himself as a full-time NHL player.  In his last two seasons with the Hershey Bears he scored 139 goals and 116 assists in 181 regular season and playoff games.  Size has never been a concern as Giroux stands 6'3'' and over 200 lbs.  I love having guys like this around because they serve as a warning to any young hot-shot with an entitlement complex.  You might be big and you might have talent, heck you might be the best God damn player in the whole fucking AHL (I've been watching Deadwood on DVD), and even then you might not make it.  Players like Taylor Hall, Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson and Jordan Eberle may want to make the Edmonton Oilers out of camp.  Alex Giroux is desperate.  If he gets beat out for a job, it won't be due to lack of try, and that's for sure. 

More on this signing and what it means for both the NHL and AHL roster after the jump.

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The lesson of Jean-Francois Jacques is that there are some players who can put up gaudy totals in the AHL that are just plain awful when they move up a level.  Charles Linglet was the same way: close to a point per game in the AHL and just terrible in his five games with the Oilers.  He only played nine games with the Capitals last season and that's not a lot to go on, but it should serve as something of a warning that he was badly outshot while he was on the ice, although the faceoff distribution (22 OZ and 32 DZ) certainly didn't do him any favours.  I'm of course hopeful that the man is a player but by far the best part of this signing is that, even if we need to learn the lesson of Jean-Francois Jacques again, it's now a lot more likely to happen, it may take Jacques' roster spot to make it happen.

And that's the take-away for fans of the Oklahoma City Barons.  Whether it's Alexandre Giroux or Jean-Francois Jacques or Jordan Eberle or Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson, it's one more quality player who isn't going to make the Oilers out of camp and who will start the year in OKC.  Here's a list of all of the forwards the Oilers have under control (signed or RFA's) for the upcoming season:

Sure NHLers - Horcoff, Hemsky, Penner, Gagner, Cogliano, Brule, Jones, Stortini, Fraser.

Possible NHLers - Hall, MacIntyre, Giroux, Eberle, Omark, Paajarvi-Svensson, Jacques, Reddox.

Sure AHLers (or lower) - O'Marra, Hartikainen, Vande Velde, Kytnar, Marquardt.

It seems likely to me that only half of the players on that "possible" list will start the year in the NHL if the Oilers don't sign another forward - and they had better sign some other forwards - and everyone is healthy coming out of camp (let us pray).  At the AHL level, all of those guys are good players (save MacIntyre) and some of them are difference-makers.  If the Oilers are serious about making the AHL club better, there's still work to do, but this has been a good start. 

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Nothing against Giroux, but I’m going to be very disappointed if he makes this team out of camp, unless the Oilers move Cogliano or Brule.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 3, 2010 7:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Why?

If he outplays one of those suspects in camp then I see that as a good thing.

What are your expectations for team as currently composed anyway? I’ll say 11-12th in the WC.

by RiversQ on Jul 3, 2010 8:00 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

If he outplays one of those suspects in camp then I see that as a good thing.

That’s essentially what I’m saying – it means he outplayed someone that the Oilers are about to give a one-way contract to, their second deal.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 3, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

If healthy, and that’s a big if, I’ve got them 11th in the conference. If the injury bug significantly hits any of Hemsky, Penner, Horcoff, Whitney, Gilbert or Khabibulin, they’re probably fighting to stay out of the cellar.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 3, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

And if the Oilers could find a way to sign or trade for a couple of real forwards and at least one more NHL dman, they could be much better than 11th

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by Derek Zona on Jul 3, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

It PAINS me to keep seeing that Khabibulin is on our team! In fact, the trifecta of Dubnyk/Deslauriers/Khabibullin makes me a bit ill. Especially when you consider how many really good goalies are sitting at home right now without contacts. Can we keep one of Dubnyk/Deslauriers and get rid of the other 2 and sign Thomas/Turco/Nabokov? And I’m sure I’m missing someone else. Still, we need a different (read: healthier not necessarily better) goalie, one more D and one more forward and I could see it being a good season.

by Czechboy on Jul 3, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

And he’s not going away soon, unless he goes to jail.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 3, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

he could be a decent 4th line winger if he stays. But a great signing for OKC. We need at least 3 -4 more AHL vets

by SumOil on Jul 3, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you, but I think the Oilers are probably going to go with a crash/bang fourth line which probably hurts Giroux’s chances of making the team.

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 3, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he makes this team out of camp, it likely means that the Oilers haven’t added any more forwards this summer, so I’d likely be disappointed too. Here’s hoping they add a couple pieces.

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 3, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

i remember that the Nucks tried that with Jason Krog a couple of years ago. Did not end up well.

by SumOil on Jul 3, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

And the pieces are out there, too.

Even if they have to overpay exorbitantly for a year’s worth of Ponikarovsky, Park and Moore, I’d rather see them to do that. I don’t want to see them running Paajarvi, Eberle and Giroux out there for any games.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 3, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

ASSETS: Can rack up points and penalty minutes at the minor-pro level. Has a projectable frame and plenty of versatility up front.

FLAWS: Needs to add more bulk to his 6-3 frame in order to crack an NHL lineup with regularity. Must display more game-to-game consistency.

CAREER POTENTIAL: Reserve forward.

by Mr DeBakey on Jul 3, 2010 8:03 AM PDT reply actions  

I recognize that as the SBN scouting report. The flaws are odd. “Game-to-game consistency” translates into “he’s just not very good” to me, which isn’t very specific. If nothings else, his minor league point totals show that he has some hands. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a good option on the PP.

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 3, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

sorry the above reply was for this
i remember that the Nucks tried that with Jason Krog a couple of years ago. Did not end up well.

by SumOil on Jul 3, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

My impressions from watching him with the Caps and a couple of games in Hershey:

Giroux is bigger than most in the A and he’s an adequate skater there. In the NHL, he lacks the acceleration to get to lose pucks or create separation from his coverage.

Since I’m not in his head and I can’t tell what he’s thinking, I don’t know this for sure, but: when I’ve watched the Bears play, there were a few guys that were making decisions at NHL speed and knew where they were going with the puck before it got to them: Perreault, Borque, Alzner and Carlson. Giroux takes a couple of extra beats to assess the situation, which is totally fine when you’re playing the Bridgeport Sound Tigers, but doesn’t work so well when you’re playing the Boston Bruins.

Rooster seems like a good guy, I hope he finds success in Edmonton. That said, don’t get your hopes up too high.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 3, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks! That’s a solid report. Your observation about decision making is an important one. There’s not much time or space in the modern NHL, both the feet and the head need to move fast or else won’t keep up.

Why Rooster?

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 3, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t the faintest idea what the etymology of his nicknames are, but that’s one of them.

Forgot to add this – his shot beats AHL goalies, but NHL ones don’t seem troubled. Now, his NHL experience isn’t large, so his sample size on NHL shooting percentage isn’t either, but unless you’re planning on using him as the triggerman on the second PP unit, I doubt he sees much time. He’s more of a hang-around-the-net-area guy and he’s not a great passer; Aucoin was the one making the plays, Giroux was the finisher.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 3, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

He does have the scorer’s knack of getting chances, though. Can’t finish ‘em, which is maddening, and can’t play a lick of defense.

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by red army line on Jul 5, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Possible NHLers – Hall, MacIntyre, Giroux, Eberle, Omark, Paajarvi-Svensson, Jacques, Reddox.”

-Personally I would only like to see two, definitely not four, of these players make the NHL team. But I am team-lets-not-suck version of the Oilers. For me the only way Giroux should make the Oilers is if he out pays Hall, Eberle, and Svensson by a larger margin; if not we could always recall him later (it is not like this guy doesn’t slip through waivers all the time).

“more actual NHL players”

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by B.C.B. on Jul 3, 2010 8:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, I agree. Two (or three, plus no MacIntyre) more reasonable forwards would be my preference. The Oilers would actually be a good team up front with that.

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 3, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

“He led the team [Hartford] in goals with 32 and points with 54 and also posted 128 penalty minutes. A speedy, skilled player, Giroux has worked hard to improve his play since he was drafted.”

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by Mr DeBakey on Jul 3, 2010 8:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Where are you quoting from?

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 3, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thats a HF farm team report from about 4 years ago.

I’m not so sure about the “speedy” part

by Mr DeBakey on Jul 3, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was gonna say, everything I have read so far screams (covertly) “Has issues with mobility.”

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 3, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve sort of followed Giroux for a few years now, just because he’s such an interesting case: So many points in the AHL, but such little success in the NHL. Then again, you can’t really say he’s had a real ‘shot’ at sticking in the NHL, either.

It’ll be interesting to see if he can make the Oilers this season. Especially if he’s left a lot of money on the table from the KHL.

by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 3, 2010 8:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh yeah, and do you know if it’s one-way or two-way?

by Peter Raaymakers on Jul 3, 2010 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m pretty sure it’s a one-way deal.

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 3, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve seen him play in person several times.

He’s got good speed, and has a good shot, but sometimes he’s just invisible. I remember him not converting on two breakaways a few years ago against the Rangers when he was up with the Capitals. He has skill – but sometimes he just doesn’t use it.

He was a monster with Hershey, though. Best of luck to him, I hope he gets a good chance with you guys.

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by Steck It Out on Jul 3, 2010 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

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