Edmonton's Top 25 Under 25 - #7 Andrew Cogliano
Established NHL players have moved up in the Top 25 since February. Zack Stortini moved up from 18th to 13th, and Gilbert Brule went from 10th to 8th. That trend comes to an end with Andrew Cogliano who loses two spots from the February rankings. At the time of those rankings, Cogliano had posted just awful boxcar numbers: 5-8-13 and -8 in 61 games. The lack of offense was poor percentages; the numbers were bound to get better. In the season's last 21 games, Cogliano (and/or Yahweh by his grace and favour) turned things around offensively. He more than doubled his offensive output, going 5-10-15 and +3 over that time.
I probably don't need to say that the percentages were falling a bit differently in this last stretch, but I will anyway. Cogliano went from shooting 4.5% in the season's first 61 games to 13.9% in the last quarter, so he had reason to praise his generous maker. But his underlying numbers also improved dramatically. Cogliano had a Corsi% of 45.6% in the first 61 games, but improved to 46.6% in the last 21. That doesn't sound impressive at all, but it's worth noting that 46.6% was the third best total on the team during that stretch. The two players who were better? Dustin Penner at 47.2% and team-leader Robert "this isn't a joke" Nilsson dwarfing the competition at 48.8%. There's probably something to be said about buying that guy out at this point, but I'll leave that to readers in the comments. At any rate, Cogliano's performance was clearly better over this stretch, though some of that is surely owing to being liberated from Ethan Moreau. So after such a strong close to the year why is he falling in the rankings?
There are three reasons for Cogliano's fall. The first is simply that he started high and there wasn't much room for him to pass the guys ahead of him. On top of that, the Oilers added a top prospect in Taylor Hall. With an addition like that, Cogliano was bound to fall at least one spot. And on two lists (mine and Bruce's), that's the whole fall. On two other lists (Derek and Jonathan), he was passed by another 2010 draft pick, Tyler Pitlick, which bumped him down one more spot. And then there's Ben. He had Cogliano lowest in February, and now has him getting passed by Zack Stortini, Devan Dubnyk, Jeff Petry, Alex Plante, and newcomer Ryan Martindale. Ouch.
So what's wrong with Cogliano? In my opinion, it's mostly the situation. He can't win a faceoff but has played center his entire career. He's small on a team committed to getting bigger. He hasn't proven that he's got the defensive chops to take on a lot of responsibility in the defensive zone or against good players. He belongs on the wing, but with Ales Hemsky, Dustin Penner, Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson, Jordan Eberle, and Taylor Hall all in the fold, things are already looking crowded. Especially if he needs some sheltering. Add in Gilbert Brule, Sam Gagner, and Shawn Horcoff, and there's only one top nine spot left. With so much youth in the lineup, the Oilers need that player to be capable all over the ice. Derek recently talked about what Steve Tambellini has left to do this summer and one of his suggestions was for the Oilers to sign a tough minutes forward. If that happens, someone else gets pushed out. If Linus Omark makes the team, it's the same thing. If it's both, two players need to be moved to make room. Maybe that's Eberle going to Oklahoma, Hall going to Windsor or Paajarvi going to Timra, but maybe it's Andrew Cogliano going to the fourth line or the press-box. Judging from Steve Tambellini's desire to rid himself of the guy, I suspect he sees Cogliano as one of the odd men out.
If Cogliano gets moved out of Edmonton, he could establish himself and have success, especially if he's playing with good players. Far too often last season, Andrew Cogliano was the best player on his line (with Ethan Moreau and Zack Stortini). That's a tough situation for any player on an entry-level contract, nevermind a guy who really isn't thought of as a future NHL star. Centering a line with two kids would just be more of the same, and it probably wouldn't be good for the kids. The Oilers seem to be using this season as a development year, which is fine. My hope is that, if this is the case, they do so conservatively and introduce two rookies this year: Linus Omark and Jordan Eberle. If it's a development year, that's fine, but hold onto the three value years from the two bluechippers and bring them in once you've culled the herd. Let Eberle get his footing, make a decision on Omark, Cogliano, and Brule, and give everyone a chance at playing some reasonable competition. If the season isn't about winning, experiment. Let players take a five or ten or twenty game stint in one role, then the same in another. See what you have. Maybe they'll end up having more in Cogliano than they'd thought.
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That was a mighty strange series of events. I was very surprised when the Predators didn’t qualify Boyd and then traded him to Montreal.
by Scott Reynolds on Jul 29, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Nashville simply didn’t want to bother with an arbitration hearing, that’s why he wasn’t qualified. Then they decided on a wildcard winger in Sergei Kostitsyn over him. And Kostitsyn came cheaper by a few G’s, too.
Conversely, I’m one of a very few amount of Habs fans that sees adding Boyd as a real positive, but I liked him a lot in junior and couldn’t fathom what the hell was happening to him in Calgary. It wasn’t number crunching or even extensive observation, just instinct from what he was like at 19.
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by Bruce Peter on Jul 30, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Cogliano is rapidly falling into the Taylor Chorney hole for me.
His 20-year-old season was driven by gaudy percentages but was exciting. His 21-year-old season was driven by gaudy percentages and a little less good. Last season, his percentages weren’t so gaudy and he was Jesus Christ shit awful. This is a guy who’s played a lot of NHL games and is if anything a liiiiittle bit worse than he was when he came into the league.
by Benjamin Massey on Jul 29, 2010 12:39 PM PDT reply actions
To put it another way, Ben Massey : Andrew Cogliano :: Derek Zona : Gilbert Brule
by Benjamin Massey on Jul 29, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Bollocks. I’ve never said anything about Brule that was nearly as mean as what you said above.
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What I said wasn’t mean. Saying he was an ugly toad with bad hair and a worse work ethic is mean.
by Benjamin Massey on Jul 29, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 29, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Percentages aside, Brule is improving. Cogliano is treading water/deteriorating. Brule can do things other than score. Cogliano really, really can’t. Brule plays an all-round game which will serve him well if he can’t keep the shooting percentages up. Cogliano is all smoke and no fire.
by Benjamin Massey on Jul 29, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’ve run the numbers for linemates for the Oilers, to adjust a player’s fenwick (scoring chance predictor) for linemates.
If you believe that reasoning, then Moreau has been brutal for three years running, he just ran out of luck this season. Only Jacques and Chorney were worse (left wing was a sinkhole). And the collective 11 AHL callups, short term guys … they managed to do worse than Jacques even, saving him from the indignity of being the worst regular NHLer in 09/10 by his measure, but only on a technicality.
And Cogliano has been improving at speed, as has Gagner. Granted both came into the league too soon and got their asses owned, chancewise. A problem disguised by some ridonkulous precentages during that time. There was nohere to go but up. Still, they are two of only three players to go from -s to +s in this regard, season over season, and they are two of them.
And only one player went from + to – by this measure, season over season … Grebeshkov. Dude fell off a cliff. It wasn’t much better for him in NSH by this measure either.
I was expecting the teammate effect to move Horcoff up a bunch in terms of value, and it does. But Cogliano’s bump is nearly as high, and far more surprising to me.
My point, and I do have one: It is at least possible that Cogliano is getting to be a better player at speed, and that poor linemates, and a sudden change of luck with shooting% etc … that’s tricked out eyes into believing that he’s stagnated, ot even gotten worse.
I mean memories are funny things. When I think of Brule I see him busting straight towards goal and wiring a shot into the top corner. If he had fired that shot a few inches high … my memory probably wouldn’t have recorded it.
And assessing the impact of teammates is also tricky business. Everyone looked much better with Penner, and almost always got better results to boot. Is that because Penner was great, or is it because the other two principle alternatives for LWer (Moreau and Jacques) were freaking awful?
For a second I thought this was David Staples. I agree with you here. I think down the stretch he improved a lot. I think he will have a good season next year
That’s not my point, SumOil. I’m suggesting that maybe he was the same guy, he just appeared to be much better because he played with better linemates. Specifically that he played less with Moreau. In terms of 5v5, the Oil’s sked was weaker down the stretch as well, that surely helped everyone look better.
Yeah, I tend to agree with the sentiment that Cogliano didn’t have a huge spike in his personal performance in the last bit of the season. The results sure came though. I’m not sure about the weaker schedule making the team look better though. I mean, I believe that the schedule was weaker, there was just an awful lot of players looking pretty poor despite that.
by Scott Reynolds on Jul 29, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone looked much better with Penner, and almost always got better results to boot. Is that because Penner was great, or is it because the other two principle alternatives for LWer (Moreau and Jacques) were freaking awful?
I’d say both. The gap between Penner and the other portsiders is probably as extreme as you could find anywhere, so how could it not affect linemates. We saw it right off the hop with the JFJ-Horcoff-Hemsky line which spun their wheels while Penner got rolling on a different trio. Whoever Penner played with saw a bump in their game and their underlying numbers. Brule got the benfit for much of the season, and down the stretch that was Cogliano who finally had thecaptainethanmoreau surgically removed from his back and hey presto! The puck started going into the net for him, and spent a whole lot less time in the wrong end of the rink.
I got room on my team for the Cogliano that finished the season. Not sure exactly where, though.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 29, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I have room for the Cogliano that finished the season and I know exactly where: the Oklahoma City Barons.
by Benjamin Massey on Jul 29, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think that everyone agrees it’s some of both. “How much of each?” might have been a better way of wording it.
As you say, the drop between Penner and Moreau/Jacques was enormous, so it’s a unique situation.
I mean Penner is obviously a very good 5v5 player, mostly because he keeps he play in the offensive end of the rink very well. He’s good on both the PP and PK as well. Still, playing in a lineup with Jacques and Moreau as the other principal options for your position … it makes him look like a worldbeater by comparison.
As Scott showed above, 47.2% Corsi was damn impressive for this team in the back half for Penner. Compared to Moreau and Jacques he was a world beater. In the global sense though, that indicates that the Oilers probably owned about 47% of the play, and of the scoring chances, when he was out there. That’s not great. It’s great compared to Ethan or J.F., no doubt. But it’s not great, generally speaking.
I noticed that too, but I don’t think Sum meant offense :)
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