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Edmonton's Top-25 Under 25 - #12 Jeff Petry

TORONTO, CAN - JUNE 2: Jeff Petry poses for a portrait during the 2006 NHL Combine held at the Park Plazza Hotel in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Photo By Dave Sandford/Getty Images)

Jeff Petry is the highest-ranked non-NHL defenceman on Copper & Blue’s Top-25 Under 25 list. Unlike other prospects on the Oilers' blue-line, who tend to be more or less one-dimensional in their skillset, Petry boasts a wide range of skills. He also boasts draft pedigree and some impressive numbers with Michigan State University.

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RankPlayer DOBDraftedYearBen
Bruce
Derek
JonScott
12 Jeff Petry
12/9/87
45 2006
11 15 7 18 13

 

The Oilers top pick in the 2006 Draft didn’t happen until the second round (they had sent away their first pick at the trade deadline to acquire Dwayne Roloson). With the 45th overall selection, the Oilers took defenceman Jeff Petry out of the USHL. Petry had size and physical skills, as well as a very impressive playoffs on a team that also boasted Kyle Okposo and Trevor Lewis. His regular season was less impressive; he scored a single goal and sat fifth among defenceman on his team in points (with 15 in 48 games). He also finished plus-6 on a plus-35 team. That said, he was highly regarded in the league (named to the All-Star team) and we don’t know the context around his minutes.

The next year was a different story; Petry’s goal production jumped from one to 18, his point total tripled from 15 to 45, and while his plus-minus fell to even, he was one of only three defencemen on the team who were even or better. Among other accolades, Petry was named the USHL Defenceman of the Year and the USA Hockey Junior Player of the Year.

Petry made the jump to NCAA hockey in 2007-08, and was one of three defencemen used in an offensive role at Michigan State University. He scored 12 points at even-strength, and 12 points on the power-play, and comments made by the coach suggest that Petry was eased into the power play role as the season went on, though he did not spend much time on the penalty kill. It was a promising, if unspectacular season, with Petry easing his way into the college game and showing promise in all areas but not blowing the doors off in any one area either. Petry was a finalist for the CCHA Rookie of the Year award.

2008-09 was a disaster for Michigan State, and for Petry. Petry was pushed up the depth chart as many of Michigan State’s players departed the system; the team as a whole suffered, and Petry struggled with the increased responsibility. His offence dropped to 14 points, both of his two goals came on the power play, and he finished the year a minus-31 – nine worse than the next player on the team. A lot of that came from playing a lot of minutes for a bad team, but at the same time, Petry looked a lot like a guy who wasn’t ready for top-pairing NCAA work at the age of 21.

2009-10 was a bounce-back year for Petry in all statistical areas. He scored 29 points in 38 games and easily led the team’s defencemen in scoring. The team jumped from minus-56 to plus-18, and Petry went from minus-31 to plus-1. It’s a year that has rehabilitated his image as a prospect somewhat, but what bothers me is that he still doesn’t appear – at a considerable distance, admittedly – to be a guy that has ever been a dominant top-pairing defenceman at the NCAA level. His offence is good but not overwhelming, and he puts up a lot of points on the power play, a role I’m skeptical he’ll get at the NHL level, especially right away. Plus/minus-wise, Petry has only ever just kept his head above water, and while that’s a flawed statistic over three years of college hockey I think it’s at least somewhat indicative.

Scott Reynolds talked about the group of four defencemen – all legitimate prospects, all drafted between 2006 and 2008 – and I think I will as well. All of those players have at least one season of professional hockey under their belt – all except Jeff Petry. Johan Motin has four years, Theo Peckham three, and Alex Plante one, and it matters because if there’s one thing that Taylor Chorney and Cody Wild have taught us, it’s that the transition to the professional game can be a tough one for college defencemen (the rule applies to defencemen as a whole, but Chorney, Wild and Petry are all NCAA grads). Now, it could be that three years from now we’ll be talking about Petry and Peckham like we do Tom Gilbert and Mathieu Roy (who once battled for the same NHL job), but the point here is that we just don’t know how Petry will adapt to the professional game – particularly since we haven’t seen a dominant performance at the college level.

I hope I’m wrong on Petry, whose skill-set isn’t easily translated statistically (especially given the numbers we have for the USHL and NCAA), but at this point in time I see a two-way defenceman who isn’t going to be able to put up points without significant power play time (which won’t come to him out of the gate and may not come at all) and who has never showed the ability to be a high-end shutdown guy in NCAA hockey. The caveat here is that he may be better than his numbers – we don’t know the percentages, the quality of his teammates or his opposition, and so on – but for now I’m skeptical.

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I remember that when I first started reading blogs, It was lowetide. It was the summer when Wild and Chorney had turned pro. He had done an analysis on all three and said that we will get one good player out of the trio and said tht it could be any one of them. So far Wild had gone off the map Chorney seems to be struggling badly. So Petry is the last man standing.

If everyone thinks that a player is underrated, then he ceases to be one.

by SumOil on Jul 24, 2010 11:44 AM MDT reply actions  

I remember that post, and I remember thinking at the time that LT was overstating his case. After all, Chorney and Petry were highly, highly touted and Wild had put up very good numbers (like all C&B writers, I’m a fan of Wild).

In hindsight, not so much. Chorney’s been a trainwreck, Wild was marginalized at hte AHL level and finally traded, and Petry’s NCAA career has been up and down.

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by Jonathan Willis on Jul 24, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

I remember thinking at the time that LT was overstating his case

ditto

If everyone thinks that a player is underrated, then he ceases to be one.

by SumOil on Jul 24, 2010 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Petry’s AHL coda didn’t exactly inspire confidence either, did it? He’s likely headed to the AHL for a full season, and I think he could get PP time right away, which should help him to have some success. He’s apparently a good shooter and I think they might play him beside Chorney who’s more of a passer on the PP. A small thing that may help Petry get to the NHL is that he’s a RH shot, and there just aren’t enough of RH defenders in the league (the Oilers, for instance, have two righties and five lefties at the moment). It won’t be a major factor, but if two guys are about equal, picking the guy to play his natural side is likely preferable.

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 24, 2010 11:48 AM MDT reply actions  

I apparently cut my paragraph on his AHL time, which saw him go minus-10 over eight games. Small samples and all, but encouraging it wasn’t.

Petry’s got a nice set of physical skills, amnong them that RH shot (I agree with you on the value of that) and good size, but I simply haven’t seen the results and I don’t think he belongs anywhere near the top-10 at this point.

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by Jonathan Willis on Jul 24, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

I dont know what kind of competition he was handling, but I think this time around the conditions should be more conducive for his success.
Also when is he eligible for waivers? He is 23. so do the same rules apply for him as for a prospect signed at a younger age?

If everyone thinks that a player is underrated, then he ceases to be one.

by SumOil on Jul 24, 2010 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

I believe he’s eligible for waivers after three years or sixty NHL games. I’m hoping the latter comes first.

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 24, 2010 12:33 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think the Oilers (like most teams I’m sure) have a lot of players with question marks in the 11-20 range. I think Petry’s had decent results, he’s got decent draft pedigree, and he’s a pretty big guy. He has the potential to make it as a top four defender and I’d actually be really surprised if he didn’t get at least a cup of coffee in the NHL. I’d put his chances of playing as a reasonably effective 5/6 defender for several years at about fifty percent. Do you see his projection a lot worse than that, or do you think the other players in the 11-20 range have a much better projection?

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 24, 2010 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think Peckham’s got a better projection than most, given his AHL QualComp.

That said, I generally agree with what you’re saying about Petry – which is why I slot him in at the 15-20 range.

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by Jonathan Willis on Jul 24, 2010 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

I just don’t see that many guys in the organization who are better than that (including Peckham, but I like him less than most). A guy like Vande Velde, for instance, seems like he’s more questionable to have a career at all and I and has lower top end potential.

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 24, 2010 12:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

Scott and I had Peckham ranked low last time and Bruce and Ben came back to us this time around. The sole reason I have Peckham ranked so low is his footspeed. It may be injury, but in his stint in the NHL, he looked too slow to make an impact.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 26, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

I’ve seen Petry play a half-dozen times as a Michigan season ticket-holder and his numbers are strange largely because Michigan State went through a major talent hiccup that found him surrounded by extremely marginal players his sophomore and junior years. This year Petry was literally the only upperclass defender on Michigan State’s roster; his partners were all “freshmen”, albeit freshmen of the already-21-zero-pro-future variety. He was carrying a lot of weight the last couple years.

I’ve seen him good, mostly. He seemed to regress as a sophomore but the whole team imploded and it’s hard to tell what’s going on with any particular individual when the team is doing so poorly — see EDM’s AHL affiliate. State’s talent took a huge dive after the Tropp/Rowe/Petry group and Petry was always saddled with some guy fresh off the boat from the NAHL; I think his numbers are artificially deflated by Rick Comley’s bizarre recruiting. (This is Michigan State, a team that should be going head to head with the premiere outfits in college hockey for prospects; instead it’s a lot of short 20 year olds.)

by Brian @ MGoBlog on Jul 24, 2010 12:32 PM MDT reply actions  

Yeah, I’m not putting a ton of stock in the minus-31 year; it’s mostly that Petry hasn’t had great numbers in the other two years.

Still, I haven’t seen him the way you have – can you comment on what kind of use he was getting? Who was he playing against/was he getting al ot of defensive zone starts? Those sort of questions might help explain his performance.

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by Jonathan Willis on Jul 24, 2010 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

I spoke with a Michigan State guy at the Bemidji State game. He said that Petry essentially played every tough matchup available and played every other shift.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 24, 2010 1:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

freshmen of the already-21-zero-pro-future variety

There are other kinds?

(Yes, Bruce, I know it’s a cheap shot at CIS. On the other hand, we can’t all go to U of A.)

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by Doogie2K on Jul 24, 2010 1:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

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