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Oilers Apparently Too Fast, Talented: Sign Steve Macintyre

I learned about Steve MacIntyre's return to the Edmonton Oilers, as I learn about all news ranging from World Cup results to the birth of children: on Twitter. The lovely thing about Twitter is that you can provide an instant, if thoughtful, reaction to the news as it happens, and like when children are born that's exactly what I did. Kept it brief, too. My reaction was two words: OH GOD.

The Oilers, being the Oilers, have told us nothing about MacIntyre's contract beyond that it's a one-year deal, but we know that this is a forward who we lost on waivers last year to the Florida Panthers and didn't bother trying to claim back when he passed through on the way to the Rochester Americans. Steve Tambellini can't possibly think that much of him (can he?) so this is probably a two-way deal. Of course, Derek Boogaard and Jody Shelley have driven up the market for completely useless hockey players, so one never knows. Personally, I'd have preferred it if the Oilers had saved themselves the trouble and just signed Mike Tyson, who I'm pretty sure will do anything for money.

What's there to say about Steve MacIntyre, the hockey player? Not much. He's actually a lot better at hockey than the aforementioned Boogaard, having scored multiple NHL goals in his forty-four career games. He's probably better at the sport than Jean-Francois Jacques, for that matter. I realize I'm not aiming too high here but it's important to keep things in perspective. Steve MacIntyre is a dreadful hockey player but even if he gets a one-way deal he's not likely to be the most dreadful of the Edmonton Oilers.

Hrm. What else have I got? I'm willing to bet money he's the only NHL player to play in the Continental Elite Hockey League, which I hadn't even heard of until the last time we signed Steve MacIntyre and have never heard of for a second since. He's definitely the only current NHL player to have been banned for life from the Continental Elite Hockey League which is an encouragingly Ogie Oglethorpe sort of thing to have on your professional resume. He's probably the only NHL player to come out of the WHA2, that lockout-year joke of a league that was meant to be the minor league affiliate to a resurrected World Hockey Association and wound up only as a punchline. He can play both forward and defense, to the extent that he can play any position at all. Last year in eighteen games with Florida he got one more point than Dean Arsene did for us, and Dean Arsene was being employed as a hockey player.

That record doesn't exactly get your motor running, does it? Well then congratulations, you're over-qualified to be general manager of the Edmonton Oilers.

Star-divide

Let's be clear, on no level does this signing make a fragment of an iota of sense.

By any measure, MacIntyre was one of the worst players on the Florida Panthers last year, and the Florida Panthers weren't starving for bad hockey players. He played with the worst Panthers against the worst opponents, got 2:53 of ice time a night, and was still -3 in his eighteen games (or, for those who dig their rate statistics, -2.84/60 EV minutes). He didn't even do much of what he was allegedly good at, spending only 24 minutes of 2009-10 in the penalty box, posting what hockeyfights.com calls a 3-1 record in NHL fights as well as a 4-0 record in the American Hockey League.

So he can't play a lick and he fights a little more than Georges Laraque on quaaludes. Even more importantly, the Oilers already have a goon named Zack Stortini who is about the same size as MacIntyre, younger, and comes with bonus ability in "actual hockey". Stortini only had a 6-6-5 record last year (again, thanks hockeyfights.com) but oooh noooo, we're going to lose because our goon doesn't win 75% of the time and he spends too much time taking care of his on-ice responsibilities rather than considering his best opportunity to be truculent.

It's hard to imagine a universe in which this could help us. Whatever deterrent effect an enforcer has preventing injury, it certainly didn't do the Oilers any good during the parts of two seasons they previously had him and it probably isn't considerable when said enforcer gets about one minor penalty worth of ice time a night.

Remember, guys, we've seen this movie before. The darker recesses of the Internet are full of mouth-breathing praise for this signing. One commenter at tsn.ca, who I will leave anonymous for his own sake, praises the signing and says Tambellini "Can't let [the Oilers] get pushed around like in years past." Years past like, I don't know, the two seasons Steve MacIntyre spent on this team? If the Oilers have been pushed around, we have better-than-average proof that Steve MacIntyre is not the solution to that problem. Yet here is our beloved Tambo, having taken our earnest pleas to stop evaluating, put a hold on the dithering, and actually making some moves, proving that really we were lucky when he was looking between two ties for an hour and a half because that meant he wasn't ruining our hockey team.

If Steve MacIntyre wants to make a fan of me, he will throw Tambellini out of the press box like Darth Vader in Return of the Jedi and then he can name his price as far as I'm concerned. Other than that, there's no way he can cover his contract even if we're paying him in pocket change.

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It’s probably wrong how appealing the image is of MacIntyre tossing Tambellini out of the press box like the Emperor. Either I like hockey too much, or Tambellini is just that bad at his job.

by Double DD on Jul 2, 2010 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Another article that looks like it was written by Damien Cox.

*Flush

by Traktor on Jul 2, 2010 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Coming from anyone else, I might have been insulted.

by Benjamin Massey on Jul 2, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

More like Lady Bob if ya ask me

Everyone knows having big guys on the bench, or in the PB even, makes everybody play better.

Its a scientifically proven fact!

by Mr DeBakey on Jul 2, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course you mean “EMPIRACAL FACT”

by Benjamin Massey on Jul 2, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno, Traktor, it’s a rare talent Ben has that he can make me laugh even when I feel like I should be pounding my head against a cement wall.

That said, I don’t read tooo much into this. Might be training camp fodder for all we know at this point. It’s not like Tambellini went out and spent $1.65 MM on this guy, is it? (Is it?)

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 2, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was reaonable happy with Tambo yesterday.

And then Strudwick and MAcintyre happen.

by DarrenV on Jul 2, 2010 2:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Today’s headlines, from the Dept. of Redundancy Dept.:

Tambellini signs 23rd man on roster. Twice.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 2, 2010 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I’d like to nominate Ben to write all future articles on goons, regardless of whose team they signed for.

Hilarious, brilliant, and sad, all at the same time.

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by George E. Ays on Jul 2, 2010 2:29 PM PDT reply actions  

all future articles on goons, regardless of whose team they signed for.

It’s really just cut and paste at this point.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 2, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not that we’re loading up on goons or anything, but that makes four C&B stories in a row that feature a picture of a fight, either in progress or just getting started.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 2, 2010 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

The one thing I’ll say for Tambellini is that he’s not making big mistakes. I don’t think having a goon on the team is at all helpful, but I’m glad that if he wants one, it will be a short term low money deal.

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 2, 2010 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed. Better this than three years of Laraque at $1.5 MM per.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 2, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It could still happen, Bruce.

by Benjamin Massey on Jul 2, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I know. But I think the SMac signing reduces the risk of a bigger mistake like that.

If Katz really wants Big Zhawrzh on the Team, he could make him a co-host of Oilers Lunch. I could get behind that.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 2, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

And, remember, it could have been worse — Georges Laraque.

by David Staples @ The Cult of Hockey on Jul 2, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s who I meant by Big Zhawrzh. Sorry. (It’s a phonetic spelling, from the Oilers press kit back in his day.)

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 2, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s how I see this, too. And if there was no goon, and Hall got hurt, we’d hear nothing but “Bring on the goon!” in Edmonton. If it helps a bit in protecting the kids, which I know is a dubious notion most likely, this move isn’t terrible, just not good, just sorta, maybe bad, let’s get on with seeing Hall at the development camp.

by David Staples @ The Cult of Hockey on Jul 2, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

But we have Stortini! We have Stortini!

by Benjamin Massey on Jul 2, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really don’t have a problem with the money or term (seriously 0.5 million for one on a one way) but as Bruce said we have two 14th Forwards now (SMac and Strudwick: please tell me we are running Strudwick as 8th D / 14th F). Why are we filling up press box spots (these two signings) before dealing with real issues of importance say 3/4 Defenseman and right handed 3C (or any centre)?

John Madden, Dominic Moore, Richard Park, Arron Asham are all veteran forwards that fit may idea of the Oilers’ needs! For the love of god: Brett Clark, Andreas Lilja, Mike Mottau, and Willie Mitchell are still on the market! Give me 5 million dollars a year and I would be able to get you at least two (if not three of these names) on one or two year contracts.

Tambo 3.0 you are starting to look like Tambo 1.0 or 2.0. It is like windows, they promise changes and for the first three weeks the new operating system looks find, then all the problems come crawling out the woodwork and you realize they are the same problems as the last version.

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by B.C.B. on Jul 2, 2010 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Up front my wish list is: Ponikarovsky, Stone and Park

On defense: Morrisonn, Colaiacovo, Grebeshkov, Weaver, Mottau

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by Derek Zona on Jul 2, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where did you hear the money? I wouldn’t be a fan of a one-way deal only because I know they’ll only spend so much on the Barons and having a huge chunk of that going to a goon probably isn’t good. Either way, I do like the fact that Tambellini is getting these contracts done quickly. I may not like the players, but if the team likes the players, it’s better to sign them than it is to dither around. They can work on both the middle and bottom of the roster at the same time.

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 2, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I took a few minute break from my work to listen to Oilers’ Lunch (the best paid commercial in all of Edmonton). Mr. Bob Stauffer said it was 500 000 for a one way deal and one year: I could be wrong but I am just repeating what he said.

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by B.C.B. on Jul 2, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oilers Lunch? Never heard of it.

by Benjamin Massey on Jul 2, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds like a good source to me. Nice find B.C.B.

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 2, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I note Calgary has signed Raitis Ivanans today. Ivanans is a scary dude, especially if you’re a Flames fan. (61 GP, 0-0-0, -8 in <5 minutes ice time a game). Two year deal, unknown $$$.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 2, 2010 3:42 PM PDT reply actions  

The hilarious part about this is that GMs have gone around the bend for enforcers and there are real, honest-to-goodness even strength players still out there…

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by Derek Zona on Jul 2, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Semenko would be a $3 million a year guy in today’s NHL. I never liked Sammy on the Oilers, but his teammates sure as hell did, so I always take it easy when it comes to bashing these signings. Maybe it’s important to have this kind of player on the roster . . . . I’m undecided. ..

by David Staples @ The Cult of Hockey on Jul 2, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

There would be an enormous bidding war for him.

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by Derek Zona on Jul 2, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is ebb and flow over the years, but such players have Never gone out of fashion.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 2, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who needs even strength players, if it is always 4 on 4 or special teams? Long live the insanity know as free agency.

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by B.C.B. on Jul 2, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s some stats for Ivanans. He’s remarkably consistent:

Season … Minutes … Minus … Minus/60
-————————————————————————-
2005-06 …. 12 ……….. -1 ………. -5.00
2006-07 …. 461 …….. -12 ……… -1.56
2007-08 …. 548 …….. -10 ……… -1.09
2008-09 …. 484 ……… -8 ………. -0.99
2009-10 …. 299 ……… -8 ………. -1.61

Looks like he peaked two years ago when he only got outscored by a goal a game.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 2, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he takes just a ridiculous amount of minor penalties given his ice time, even for a goon.

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 2, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Three Goalies

There isn’t a chance that they try three goalies again, is there?

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by Derek Zona on Jul 2, 2010 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Don’t worry, Khabibulin’s going to prison.

I can’t believe that would be a positive.

by Benjamin Massey on Jul 2, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

No he’s not, and yes they might although Tambellini says not. I’m of the opinion that it’s not the worst idea, at least until Khabibulin is both a healthy and a free man. JDDDD are great insurance for Plan B: “Bottomfeed for the Swede”.

That said, I’d like to see the org sign the other Dubie as injury insurance and organization depth. Wade Dubielewicz has a career Sv% of .914 in the NHL and .920 in the AHL. Seems like he’s been hanging around the fringes forever, but he’s only 31.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 2, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are a number of fringe guys out there who would be acceptable,Dubielewicz among them. The important thing is that they get somebody to fill the role of established tweener.

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 2, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe in goons, but Smac is not a goon

Its extremely tough to quantify but the anecdotal evidence from NHL players suggests that goons can help your more vulnerable players from some cheap shots.

That being said, I do not think having a “tough guy” does the same thing.

A tough guy (like Smac) will fight anyone, but usually only other tough guys. I don’t think that this type of player has the impact of a goon.

If Regehr hits Hall from behind and puts him out, I doubt that he’ll drop the gloves with Smac if he comes for retribution.

A goon won’t try to drop the gloves, but will simply try to turn Regehr’s teeth into paste with a stick, elbow, fist, whatever and won’t ask before doing it.

I think that has a much greater impact on protecting those who need protecting than having a “tough guy”

Smac is far too nice a person as well. A good goon is more than a little crazy and is somewhat feared by his own teammates too due to unpredictability.

by Woodguy on Jul 3, 2010 5:59 AM PDT reply actions  

I have not seen any of the goons you speak of in the NHL for quite some time. Further, is there any evidence that this will actually prevent injuries? It seems just as likely that having a crazy guy running around giving cheap shots increases the risk of injury since the other team will no doubt be coming at your guys hard when their guys get pelted. As for the anecdotal evidence from NHL players, I strongly doubt that it’s anything more than a placebo, which really means all you need is a guy they believe in to get the maximum effect. If the players believe MacIntyre helps them, I don’t see any further benefit unless you have a guy who can also play the game.

by Scott Reynolds on Jul 3, 2010 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe you could classify Matt Cooke, Jarrko Ruttu, Sean Avery as goons?
They seem to be excellent at giving a good ole’ cheap shot and then try hide….

by DarrenV on Jul 3, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like I said in the first post, that real evidence is almost impossible to quantify and you have to rely on anecdotal evidence from players, which could be incorrect.

I am not taking about your hired goon hitting everyone, just the guys who deserve it. Retaliation only.

I"m thinking Kevin McCelland or McSorley types. Slightly crazy, can play some hockey and will hurt you if you hit the wrong guy.

by Woodguy on Jul 3, 2010 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

joke page

this is the first time I’ve been on this site. Is it supposed to be a joke page?

by albertabeef on Jul 3, 2010 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

No, sir. What specific objections do you have that make you think I must be kidding?

by Benjamin Massey on Jul 3, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ben’s always kidding, even when he’s serious.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 3, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tears of A Claown

We’re just serious Oiler fans who are trying to smile despite the Pain.

And tha pain is in a place ya don’t talk about in fronta da ladies.

by Mr DeBakey on Jul 3, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

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