People Are Very Strange These Days: The Moreau'Sullivan Moves
Sometimes, it's hard to tell if the Edmonton Oilers are very smart or very lucky.
Take this Ethan Moreau thing, for example. We hear that the Oilers have waived him, along with two others. We then hear that Moreau has, in fact, been bought out. Check out that link fast because there might be a retraction going up in a hurry: today comes news that Moreau has actually been picked up off waivers by the Columbus Blue Jackets. Perhaps Scott Howson owes Kevin Lowe money. There can't be many other explanations for picking up such a disastrously ineffective player with such a horrifyingly putrid year left on his contract. I saw Howson briefly at the draft on Saturday and he didn't look like a piano had been dropped on his head. Perhaps the reason Howson grabbed Moreau will forever remain a mystery.
Then there's the Patrick O'Sullivan... well, I'll call it a "fiasco" but only out of tradition because it might have been very clever. First we heard that the Coyotes had swapped Jim Vandermeer to Edmonton for O'Sullivan and both players had been bought out. Because of the players' differing ages, this would save the Coyotes about $750,000 in precious United States currency, so presumably the Oilers were getting some sort of consideration for this hit.
Now we hear that the Oilers may not be releasing Vandermeer at all. That Edmonton - and God knows they need some effective defensemen - might be holding on to old Gentleman Jim and his $2.3 million cap hit through 2010-11 while Phoenix buys out O'Sullivan and saves their money. The whole affair would save the Oilers $625,000 in cap space for next season, get us a not-awful player at a position of need, and open up a regular lineup spot for Jean-Francois Jacques or Ryan O'Marra. Two of those things are good.
It's all quite clever. And therefore unbelievably peculiar.
Now, if we're getting Jim Vandermeer, we're obviously not expecting too much. But there's a lot to like in having him on the Oilers. He's only turning thirty this season. He was +4 with last year's surprisingly good Coyotes team and played over seventeen minutes a game. He's mediocre offensively, although not Ladislav Smid, and he kills penalties with alacrity. He's better than Aaron Johnson, to pick a name, and he's pretty much automatically our fourth-best defenseman. Jim Vandermeer isn't good enough to be a fourth-best defenseman on any decent team but he's good enough to play for one, and we need more serviceable players like that.
Vandermeer is just too damned expensive for the Coyotes, whose ownership situation could not be more unclear and are selling off the furniture to stay afloat in what, for lack of a more accurate term, I must call their "hockey market". A $2.3 million cap hit is poor value for a player of Vandermeer's calibre, but it's not awful value, and with the contract expiring at the end of the year it's not like the Oilers will have to carry it into contention anyway. Long-term, when you consider what paying an equivalent free agent to take Vandermeer's position would cost, it's not much more expensive than buying out O'Sullivan would have been and we're getting a decent player in exchange.
I am apprehensive about losing Patty Minus, though. Yes, he was terrible last season. He had one of the worst campaigns from an Oilers forward not named Jean-Francois Jacques that I can remember. But every die that could fall against him did. His career shows that he's been a moderately good scorer for almost his entire career and it's not like he's been playing with Adam Oates in his prime. He's young, and his salary wasn't all that bad. Flushing him down the toilet for Jim Vandermeer seems like selling a non-crippling contract at the bottom of the market. We weren't going anywhere next season with or without O'Sullivan, so why not give him another year to see if he can round back into form and either jettison him for increased value or just buy him out then?
But if you take it as a given that O'Sullivan was useless and buyout-worthy, then this is a pretty good move on Edmonton's part. And it's good news for the third member of the waiver regiment, Robert Nilsson, who has been neither traded nor bought out yet and suddenly has less competition on the wing of our low-defense soft-minutes smurf line. Nilsson is another guy who had a much worse year last year than in any other and can reasonably be expected to rebound, although not to the same degree as O'Sullivan. If I was going to get rid of one of them, it would be Mini-Magic. But Nilsson appears to have more lives than a cat, and he may have just gotten another opportunity here.
The Oilers, in short, are both better and cheaper than they were yesterday. Gwuuuuh?
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I say good job Tambellini. Keeping O’ Sullen boy around just not good for your young players. Van Dermeer on the other hand – while slightly over priced will be good in the room. He was very effective for the Flames 2 seasons ago and looks like he had a good year in Phoenix. Getting someone to bite on Souray is the next step and then there is tons of space.
I dont get it....
Everyones been clamouring for changes since god knows when, and POS has been brought up numerous times in the ‘get rid of him’ sense. But now that we did get rid of him, all of a sudden half of the fans/media/bloggers decide that, well, maybe it wouldve been better to keep him. Make up your mind people! lol
Personally, I think the deals are good. Vandermeer isnt a top quality dman, but hes respectable, and he depth, which is one of the things we need on the back end.
I never did like when Tambo got the GM job, and it was nothing but headaches for the longest time. Only in the last 6 months or so has he started to turn things around… Keep it up man, we may put you in our good books yet.
To be fair, I was never on the “get rid of O’Sullivan at all costs” bandwagon. We’ll have to turn it over to our Chief I-Hate-Patrick-O’Sullivan Correspondent Bruce McCurdy for that one.
by Benjamin Massey on Jun 30, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, I’ll bite. Back in early December I did a post on what a POS O’Sullivan’s contract was, I prorated his performance since his acquisition over a full season, and came up with a Lupulesque 11-23-34, -32. He actually finished the season 11-23-34, -35, so it’s fair to say his performance never improved by one iota duiring his entire time here. The guy was expensive, weak defensively, underproductive offensively, had a shooting percentage many defencemen would be ashamed of, and brought zero in the way of physical play or overall compete level. He played about one good game in ten. Other than that he was terrific.
I think it speaks volumes that Phoenix acquired the guy for the sole purpose of buying him out. Assuming those reports are accurate, that they never considered adding them to the roster is a tell. Two teams have passed judgement on this guy in 24 hours.
It’ll be interesting to see who will give him a chance at what dollar figure. One thing’s for sure, they will be buying low. And they’ll be hoping to buy the player that O’Sullivan may have been for a time in Los Angeles, but never was here.
This trade is addition and subtraction AFAIC. Clear roster and cap room up front, add a body where ione is most needed. Tambellini has had a good few days.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 30, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m with Bruce on this one. O’Sullivan was leading the race for the NHL’s green jacket and just getting killed out there. He came in as prospective offensive contributor and since then has simply been a suspect. He’s not scored, he clearly couldn’t play defense and he played soft. Throw in a not insubstantial contract and O’Sullivan was pure deadweight on the team . We had more than enough of that.
O’Sullivan was leading the race for the NHL’s green jacket and just getting killed out there.
Every possible % that could have gone against him did AND he got strapped with J.F. Jacques when the Train Wreck was healthy.
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And if that last putt hadn’t lipped out, I woulda shot 112 instead of 113. Either way, I suck.
I can’t believe all the C&B writers lining up to protect this guy like he was some sort of hidden gem or something. (I’ll agree on the hidden part.) You guys need to let the mythical POS go — you know, the guy we never saw here. He sucked the entire time he was here. As a result he got dumped by two NHL teams today.
If the percentages hadn’t gone against him he woulda been what, -25? There’s no way they come close to explaining away the whole mess. He played terrible. He made every line he played on, worse. Let him go … Tambellini finally did.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 30, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
That assumes a normal shopoting percentage, right? Ri-i-i-ght.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jul 1, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I pretty much agree completely with your take here Ben. They definitely sold low on O’Sullivan, but even if he did bounce back, he likely doesn’t fit going forward. This trade is far better than buying him out, so I’m pretty happy. Vandermeer may even establish some Staios-esque value by the trade deadline which would, of course, be a nice plus.
by Scott Reynolds on Jun 30, 2010 12:58 PM PDT reply actions
Does that mean another third-rounder from the Flames? I hear Darryl Sutter likes this guy.
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For $2M less? Sure.
As-is? Nuh uh.
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same answer ?
For Kotalik I expect.
FYI – Vandermeer played some forward when in Calgary – did OK on the 4th line – so you have some versatility. In fact I would have done the Kotalik for Jim VDM for the Flames even though it only clears 700 K in salary…..
Nigel Dawes
He’s on waivers…. makes less than a million a year… he would be an awesome pickup! Losing O’Sullivan and gaining Dawes in the same day would be fabulous!

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