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The Calgary Flames have placed Ales Kotalik on waivers with the probable intention of buying out his contract if he doesn't get claimed. Other players on waivers include Jim Vandermeer and Jonathan Cheechoo. Notable by their absence: Ethan Moreau, Robert Nilsson and Patrick O'Sullivan.

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when is the latest these guys can be put on waivers and still bought out?

by Oi on Jun 28, 2010 1:07 PM MDT reply actions  

Each team can buy-out three players outside of the regular period, so there’s no hard and fast deadline for the Oilers (they haven’t used any of these three “exceptions”) but the regular buy-out period ends on June 30th at 5:00 p.m. EST so you’d expect anyone they intend to buy-out to hit unconditional waivers tomorrow at the latest.

by Scott Reynolds on Jun 28, 2010 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

good to know about this “exception” rule

by Stephen Sheps on Jun 28, 2010 1:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

i will give Vandermeer and Nokalienen a long hard look

by SumOil on Jun 28, 2010 1:08 PM MDT reply actions  

I like Vandermeer just fine, but I’d like him a lot more on re-entry waivers when I don’t have to absorb a 2.3Mil cap hit for a 1.5 mil player. That being said, he is exactly the kind of player the Oilers need so he’s definitely worth considering. On the other hand, Nokalienen was passed up last year for a reason. Just say no.

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by Stephen Sheps on Jun 28, 2010 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

Most of these guys aren’t coming back on re-entry, they’re getting bought out. That said, I could certainly see Vandermeer going on re-entry because the Coyotes will save more money if he gets picked up there than by buying him out and they probably don’t care at all about the cap space.

by Scott Reynolds on Jun 28, 2010 1:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

yeah, absolutely these guys are buy-out targets… the re-entry thing is purely wishful thinking.

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by Stephen Sheps on Jun 28, 2010 1:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

For the Coyotes, I really don’t think it is. They’re buying out Vandermeer, mostly as a cost-saving measure and they’ll save more with re-entry so I actually expect him to go through re-entry before they buy him out (unless they decide they’d rather just have him play than pay him at least half his salary to not play). That goes for Nokelainen too. Kotalik and Cheechoo, on the other hand, likely aren’t coming through re-entry since those teams will more than likely spend to the cap.

by Scott Reynolds on Jun 28, 2010 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yup, the yotes end up paying less actual money on re-entry than the buyout and they aren’t worried about the cap hit.

For the most part, Buyouts save cap but cost money.

Re-entry saves money and costs cap space.

Curious though, I understand the cap hit is half on re-entry, but is the cash paid half as well (or does the claiming team pick up the full cash of the contract but only half the cap)?

by dawgbone98 on Jun 28, 2010 1:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

I realize I have a bias but I thought Kotalik played well for us a few years ago and would be a nice addition at half price.

by Czechboy on Jun 28, 2010 2:25 PM MDT reply actions  

Yeah, the Flames definitely won’t be giving that option unfortunately.

by Scott Reynolds on Jun 28, 2010 2:35 PM MDT up reply actions  

Unlike Cole, can Play either Wing

I agree with Czechboy; I thought Kotalik looked good with H&H .

As a placeholder while Magnus, Taylor & Jordan are learnin’ the ropes,
I’d sign him.

As always, assuming the price is right

by Mr DeBakey on Jun 28, 2010 2:32 PM MDT reply actions  

Exactly, as a nice placeholder…. 1 year deal to keep him motivated!

by Czechboy on Jun 28, 2010 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

What say Calgary pays him $2 million and we pay him the other million. I’d be cool with that.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 28, 2010 9:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Kotalik!? He’s a black hole at evens.

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by Derek Zona on Jun 28, 2010 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

Granted, but he’s very good on the PP and excellent in the shootout.

I’m curious as to what the value of a single shootout goal is to shootout points. The NHL has been pretty lousy at coming up with team totals for shootout stats.

by dawgbone98 on Jun 29, 2010 7:37 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ales Kotalik is merely the latest victim of the Petr Nedved Curse of the Czech Player who Come to the Oilers as Deadline Rentals, Does Pretty Well, then Parlays That Into a Huge Contract.

It’s a horrible curse indeed.

by Benjamin Massey on Jun 28, 2010 5:24 PM MDT reply actions  

Ironically, it rarely parlays into a contract with the Oil… I’m still so bitter that Dopita didn’t work out back in the day, the man was gold (literally – leading scorer of the 98 Olympic Team). Samsonov also pulled this off. Ironically, I remember thinking how awesome Nedved looked as an Oiler at the end of that season. I’m sure there are more I’m missing. Maybe we should trade for Olesz.lol

by Czechboy on Jun 28, 2010 6:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, Samsonov’s a Russian so he doesn’t count. Also, one goal aside, he kinda stank (better than Marty Reasoner, though).

Oh my god, Jiri Dopita. That’s all I need to say about him. Oh my god. He looked like I would if I played in the NHL. Except a million times better, of course, but that’s what I thought.

by Benjamin Massey on Jun 28, 2010 7:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

haha… he is a National Treasure! I’m not even kidding about that…. he really was an awesome player but sucked in the NHL but was really good everywhere else. In his prime (late 90’s) he was voted as the best Czech player beating out Hasek and Jagr once!!! Their former coach is another one… Rucizka was also pretty lame in the NHL but he was awesome in Europe.

Samsonov – well aware he’s Russian, but he stood out as another guy that showed up, played well and took off. It’s like the Oilers are rehab for talented has beens.lol

by Czechboy on Jun 28, 2010 8:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah I was going to mention Ruzicka but my comment button froze up. (I blame Derek) Both Dopita and Ruzicka were wonderful players who struggled making the transition to Oiler hockey. Doptia in particular was a crushing disappointment; I was convinced he was really going to make a difference. Buddy sure used to kill Canada at the Worlds.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 28, 2010 9:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

On the other hand, Jaroslav Pouzar was a guy who came to North America late in his hockey life. He never put up the big numbers over here that he did on the international stage, but I never had a complaint about Pouzar or his contributions to the Oiler cause. Tough as they come.

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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 28, 2010 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Should've waited a day

TSNBobMcKenzie Today’s waivers: Oystrick (ANA), Moreau, Nilsson, O’Sullivan (EDM), Fedoruk (TB), Brashear, Rissmiller, Voros (NYR). All buyout eligible.

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by George E. Ays on Jun 29, 2010 10:19 AM MDT reply actions  

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