Edmonton Oilers 31st Overall Pick Possibilities
by Derek Zona on Jun 26, 2010 8:00 AM MDT
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The first round is mercifully over and and now we can get on to the Taylor Hall vs. Jordan Eberle debate (coming soon to a message board near you). I've noticed every other Oilers' media outlet offering even more words about Taylor Hall and, I gotta be honest, I've had enough. So rather than write yet another recap of the first overall pick, I've decided to look forward to today's pick, the thirty-first overall. Check out Western College Hockey for a nice recap of the evening. Check everywhere else - literally, everywhere else - for Taylor coverage.
Ben, Darren Dreger and even Joe Magaratz reported that Steve Tambellini was trying to move up into the first round, talking to the Bruins about the second pick and the Panthers about the 15th pick. He was attempting to move Cogliano for the 15th, and Dreger said that he offered Hemsky and Eberle for the 2nd. He was after players that were going to make a difference and was willing to give up assets to do it. But Tambo caught a break.
Tambellini found a stroke of luck as the first round went a bit sideways. Names like Mark Visentin, Kevin Hayes, Beau Bennett, Joey Hishon and Jaden Schwartz were all called in the first round, meaning a number of highly-ranked prospects remain in the second round. Depending on who it is you take your draft lowdown from, there are six to eight impact players remaining. For an in-depth look at a number of prospects that might be moving early tomorrow, check out our second round mock draft.
Stu MacGregor's early Saturday selection must be an easy one to make, as there are four players who really stand out.
The top four remaining prospects on most every draft list are left wing John McFarland, defenseman Jon Merrill, center Tyler Pitlick, and center Tyler Toffoli. Aside: Even if we don't agree on the pick, I think we can all agree that there are too many Tylers in this draft... it doesn't help that they all play center.
First up among the big four is John Merrill, the big defenseman from the U.S. National Program, and the youngest player ever to verbally commit to an NCAA school (he was 14 at the time). He's got all of the right people saying all of the right things about him, but no one raves about his game. He's a decent skater, with a decent shot and above-average passing ability. The one area where he's head and shoulders above the rest of the competition is understanding and awareness of the game. He's intelligent and he studies the game. He's big and muscular and can throw booming checks. His coaches give him rave reviews on his work ethic and his vision on the ice.
Next up is John McFarland who skates like Taylor Hall, shoots like Brett Connolly and finishes like Nino Neiderreiter. He's got all of the tools to be an offensive force and a dominant player, but he's available in the second round for a reason. His maturity level has been questioned, his defensive zone play has been shredded, his consistency has been diced, his work ethic is poor and he's not particularly apt to give you his highest level of performance night in and night out.
We've profiled Tyler Pitlick previously because of the SBN second round mock draft, and I didn't think Pitlick would last:
Being able to select Pitlick with the 31st pick was a complete surprise and I don't expect that this option will be available to Steve Tambellini and Stu MacGregor. If it is, someone in the Oilers' organization should be sprinting to the podium to pick Pitlick.
Now that he's available, I believe the OIlers should start the day by drafting Tyler Pitlick. Not only do they get a two-way center, they get their own Tyler. From his profile:
Other scouting reports on Pitlick talk about his work in both zones and his superior faceoff skill. Essentially, he's ready-made for the NHL, even if he doesn't become a high-end scorer. He's big, fast, possesses finishing ability, play-making ability, a nice shot, faceoff skill and is quickly becoming a good defensive player.
The other Tyler available for the pick is Tyler Toffoli, the center from the Ottawa 67s. Toffoli isn't big and he's not especially strong, but he is a skilled player who keeps his feet moving - always. He's got very strong finishing ability and can play Oates to a teammate's Hull. He's being called "the poor man's Alex Tanguay".
Those are the big four, but there are still others who might be selected. Two of the most likely in the next group are both from Sweden. Calle "Iron Hook" Jarnkrok, the diminutive playmaker that skates like he's being chased, and Ludvig Rensfeldt, the hulking center that enjoys working in traffic and on the walls.
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Probably Merrill. Edmonton’s defense needs improvement at every level over the next couple of years if they want to succeed, and I’m unsure of how big a potential upgrade Pitlick would be over someone like Nash or Lander in the first place. Although it’s not guaranteed that the former will even end up playing for the Oilers.
Although it’s not guaranteed that the former will even end up playing for the Oilers.
If the organization is going to run kicking and screaming from college kids because of Riley Nash, even though they’ve got Horcoff, Pisani, Coligano, and Potulny and they came along just fine, then there’s a whole other level of shame that we’ve got to heap on those in charge.
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I am still on the Merril bandwagon but will be absolutely fine with Pitlick too. What time does the draft start today?
There are a whole bunch of rangy defensemen that can move right now and the Oilers pick again in 18 picks. Grab the kid that is already a difference-maker and then figure out which of Merrill, Petrovic, Johns, Nemeth, Marincin, Alt, Melchiori, MacKenzie will be available at 48.
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I voted for Pitlick, only because Derek didn’t put Calvin Pickard in the poll question. (j.k. Derek)
I’m a little surprised to see Toffoli with 0 votes at this juncture.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions
I think Toffoli is like Eberle in that nothing truly stands out about him, so it’s tough to see what he’s going to be. I’ve read more scouting reports than I care to ever do again and his reports are really toned down, even by places like central scouting.
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Toffoli is like Eberle
You can never have enough Clutch
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions
Toffoli!
I’m sure Derek will permit me to put up a link to my report on Toffoli, who I voted for above. 37 goals, people.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 10:21 AM MDT reply actions
Or, to put it another way:
Toffoli: 37 goals, 79 points
Mcfarland: 20 goals, 50 points
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 10:22 AM MDT up reply actions
McFarland is the obvious pick for the OIlers of last year. If they take him this year…
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Also, Toffoli’s a winger. He started the year at centre, put up lousy totals, got moved to wing and exploded.
Just like Ryan Smyth that one year.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 10:33 AM MDT reply actions
got moved to wing and exploded.
Shooting percentage?
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I don’t have the numbers, so that’s a real possibility that he was just slumping a bit. On the other hand, given the difference in the positions it’s possible he just wasn’t comfortable at centre.
Either way, his NHL future probably isn’t up the middle.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Any idea if R2 is on the radio somewhere online?
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:03 AM MDT reply actions
Try 630 CHED. I think they’re covering it, and I think they got an online feed.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks Bruce.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Here we go for Round 2. Pleased to discover that NHL Network has 4 hours coverage scheduled. Judging by yesterday’s festivities, that should deliver us to the end of Round Two, what?
Looking forward to the accelerating pace. Oilers with 3 picks in the next 31, gotta nab at least one gem. Go Stu!
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Pitlick! Yeay for Derek!
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:06 AM MDT reply actions
Not a bad pick, either. I like Toffoli and he wouldn’t have been the pick I made, but not bad at all really.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:07 AM MDT up reply actions
Pitlick it is
We got Taylor AND Tyler.
And C&B are a nifty 2-for-2 in the SBN Mock Draft.
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We got Taylor AND Tyler
Something tells me I won’t be the last person to say that. Sorry.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions
I knew it wasn’t an original thought on my part.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:09 AM MDT up reply actions
Note to draft experts – C&B rules!
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So do C&B readers and commenters. A clear majority, or 58% (73 of 124 as of now) of readers voted for Pitlick, comfortably more than the other 5 guys combined. I have to say, I’m impressed.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:14 AM MDT up reply actions
Well, whoever wrote the Pitlick article(s) must have been pretty convincing.
Hey! Maybe Stu MacGregor reads C&B!
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
Funny now to see that there are roughly twice as many votes cast in the poll now as when I posted that comment a few minutes after the pick. Pitlick’s percentage has now soared to 69%, as 99/122 subsequent voters gave him their support. I guess the other 23 must have felt it was a bad pick?
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 27, 2010 8:31 PM MDT up reply actions
I’m not wild about Pitlick’s offensive upside, but a nice selection all the same. Future third liner, I should think.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:09 AM MDT reply actions
He has plenty of offense and he’ll display it in the WHL this year.
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His high school numbers were only pedestrian, although his NCAA numbers weren’t bad I suppose.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions
"Nothing cooking"
According to Stauffer, nothing much happening for the Oilers.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:09 AM MDT reply actions
Trade wise, that is.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions
McFarland 33rd overall to Florida.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:10 AM MDT reply actions
Tencer can shut the hell up about the Oilers needing a goaltender.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:11 AM MDT reply actions
It’s pretty obvious that the Swede is coming at #48
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Tencer’s got no frickin’ clue about the value of draft picks. No clue at all.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions
Stauffer, on the other hand, has a very good idea about the value of a late-first, early-second round pick.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions
I take it the CHED link worked? Excellent!
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, thanks for that Bruce.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
That’s a little harsh. I’d say “many Edmonton fans” rather than “most”. Or simply, “most hockey fans”. The causal fan has no chance of understanding the value of a draft choice.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
causal = casual. $#!+
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Nemeth
Nemeth gone at 41.
Dammit.
Stephen Johns is still out there.
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Lots still out there.
Ross, Toffoli, Weal… lots of good stuff left. The Oilers should get quality at 48. I’m just hoping they pass on Pickard, although he wouldn’t be a horrible pick in that range I suppose.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions
Surely Oilers pick a rearguard next?
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According to Stauffer, Carolina’s interested in Riley Nash. This just in, Tencer’s still an idiot; he thinks there’s no chance Carolina trades a pick better than 51 for him.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:23 AM MDT reply actions
I’d sure be tempted to pick Weal though. Maybe at 61? He’ll be gone for sure after that.
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MARINCIN!
C&B RULES!
Riley Nash to Ottawa for Marincin!
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Ick. I’m not a fan of Marincin. I see why they like him, but I’m not a fan.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions
Stauffer and Tencer have no clue who Marincin is. For the love of God, how do these guys not know about people in THN’s preview?
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Stauffer and Tencer should emulate Stu and read C&B!
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions
On the downside, we traded a #30 and #36 in 2007 for a #46 in 2010.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions
Edmonton snagged the 46th pick. Still have 48.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:24 AM MDT reply actions
And Stauffer’s gloating at Tencer, which is just plain awesome.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:25 AM MDT reply actions
Tencer saying Marincin is going to Prince Geoge in the WHL next year.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:27 AM MDT reply actions
Yes, he confirmed that at his combine interview.
The WHL is going to be a great place to watch Oilers selections next year.
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Very large grin. We don’t have an actual WHL team in Edmonton, but teams from that league do pass through from time to time.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:37 AM MDT up reply actions
Curtis Hamilton at 48.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:29 AM MDT reply actions
Hamilton had a decent year last season but slipped big time because of injuries this year. I’m not crazy about the selection, but it might be a nice under-the-radar pick too. Could be better, but I like him better than Marincin.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:30 AM MDT up reply actions
He struggled in the Slovakian league this year. There are plenty of other guys on the board who didn’t struggle in better leagues.
If you have troubles playing in Slovakia in your draft year, you shouldn’t be picked this early IMO.
It’s a case of projection trumping results, which always drives me nuts,
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions
This is incredible, guys. I’m now convinced that Tambellini is taking all his cues from this website.
For readers wanting a good overview on Oilers second and third selections, here are links to Derek’s articles on Tyler Pitlick and Martin Marincin.
Outstanding work, Derek!
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Thanks Bruce! Now, let’s hope they snag Svedberg in the 6th
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Yessir. Wentzel might go here at 61
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I don’t care if he’s a stand-up freezer … can he play?
Derek, where’s your piece on Hamilton?
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks Sum. Was he hurt last year? Made the league at 15!
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions
Heh – don’t have one, sorry Bruce. I didn’t realize they were going to trade up.
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:D
If they had their eyes on Pickard, the little finesse at 46-48 didn’t work.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions
Nah – they’re getting Wentzel at 61.
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Knee injury and collarbone injury shortened his year.
Aside from that, the numbers seem to indicate that he can play.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions
For the record, the Tyler jokes are getting very, very, very old.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:42 AM MDT reply actions
it’s different from the NFL draft, where it’s “we got DaLeonard and Dalarious!”
by Passive Voice on Jun 26, 2010 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, some of those names are something else. There’s one dude stick with the handle D’Brickashaw or something like that. Are names of that type a variation of “Mc”? In which case I’ll cease and desist thinking they’re all that weird.
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:47 AM MDT up reply actions
They won’t get him, but I want Weal.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:44 AM MDT up reply actions
Me too. I saw Weal play this past year when I went to see Eberle. V. impressive!
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by Bruce McCurdy on Jun 26, 2010 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions
It's a Coke Machine Draft
Bloody hell.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:47 AM MDT reply actions
Or Prendergast from a few years ago.
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by Jonathan Willis on Jun 26, 2010 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions
I was just going to say, draft two coke machines and hope one turns out, just like 2003. (I’ll leave you guessing as to which one I think is turning out.)
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